Countdown to Joey Bosa

[GrimCoconut]

I was one of the first to talk up the idea of taking a LT in the top 10 this season, but atm I feel like the only prospect who'd have a better case for being BPA than Bosa would be Tunsil - and I still think Tunsil is far more likely to be gone before our pick. I honestly do get the need for OL, but if the draft were today I'd take Bosa over Stanley - and this is coming from a guy who's such a fan of 78 he basically wears Ronnie Stanley underwear.

It's hard for me to choose Bosa over even Tunsil, but I'm starting to want him over Tunsil (although I don't think it'll matter since I expect that decision to be made for us) but it's hard because Tunsil is an elite prospect; however, I don't see another pass rusher as good as him. I really like Ogbah but he's got his issues as well. Bosa is further along than all other options at OLB.

[GrimCoconut]

With 2nd round picks of Randy Gregory and Demarcus Lawrence in the last 2 years and the likely re-signing of Greg Hardy, I'm not sure Dallas takes Bosa. A lot depends on Hardy's contract though.

Crazy Jerry probably drafts Hargreaves or Ramsey even with a top 3 or so pick lol

[Inqui]

It's hard for me to choose Bosa over even Tunsil, but I'm starting to want him over Tunsil (although I don't think it'll matter since I expect that decision to be made for us) but it's hard because Tunsil is an elite prospect; however, I don't see another pass rusher as good as him. I really like Ogbah but he's got his issues as well. Bosa is further along than all other options at OLB.

If it's between Tunsil and Bosa, I'm honestly not sure who I'll prefer come draft day. In a way I'm actually a little disappointed Ohio State's facing Notre Dame and not Ole Miss. Bosa v Stanley and Ogbah v Tunsil are still two pretty dreamy matchups (not like CB v WR battles, which tend to underwhelm imo), but that would have been perfect for us to watch two potential board-topping prospects literally go head to head.

 

But like you say, I'd be absolutely staggered if both were on the board where we pick (especially if we jag another win and end up picking like 7th ).

[Wildabeast88]

I was one of the first to talk up the idea of taking a LT in the top 10 this season, but atm I feel like the only prospect who'd have a better case for being BPA than Bosa would be Tunsil - and I still think Tunsil is far more likely to be gone before our pick. I honestly do get the need for OL, but if the draft were today I'd take Bosa over Stanley - and this is coming from a guy who's such a fan of 78 he basically wears Ronnie Stanley underwear.

Nice the other option would be taking Spriggs from Indiana at the top of the 2nd or trade back a few spots in the 1st to grab Conklin or Decker and maybe grab a pass rusher in the 2nd unless we go Bosa and trade back into the late 1st for a LT

[Inqui]

Crazy Jerry probably drafts Hargreaves or Ramsey even with a top 3 or so pick lol

You wouldn't rule out Paxton Lynch as the flashy prospect either. Apparently Jurrah really wanted Manziel (what a waste of a high pick in a historically great draft that would have been). I get the feeling they gun for Bosa in the same way I think SD wants Tunsil, but I hope I'm wrong on both counts.

[Inqui]

Nice the other option would be taking Spriggs from Indiana at the top of the 2nd or trade back a few spots in the 1st to grab Conklin or Decker and maybe grab a pass rusher in the 2nd unless we go Bosa and trade back into the late 1st for a LT

Yeah, there are plenty of other options around - I also don't mind Le'Raven Clark out of Texas Tech or Texas ATM's Germain Ifedi. Hell, even Vadal Alexander could be an interesting option - not so much as a full-time LT but as a KO replacement at LG who can kick out whenever Monroe gets hurt. At the end of the day, Monroe's been fine when healthy. But since it's more the caveat of being healthy than his actual play that's the problem, we really just have to upgrade Hurst.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

 

Joey Bosa, Joey Bosa. That guy's awesome...

AWESOME! He's so awesome. He's so awesome. Oh so awesome. AWESOME

[Inqui]

AWESOME! He's so awesome. He's so awesome. Oh so awesome. AWESOME

He's from Awesome Town!

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

He's from Awesome Town!

(out of order but okay)

This isn't Joey Bosa singing this song. That would be really lame

[PurpleCity5]

What's the draft order right now? I personally see us losing out FWIW. I hope Dallas and Tennessee can squeeze in some extra wins. San Fran winning today helped a ton. I'm mum on if Cleveland will go with Bosa or a QB. We need San Diego to pull off some miracles. 

Edited December 6, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[BmoreBird22]

What's the draft order right now? I personally see us losing out FWIW. I hope Dallas and Tennessee can squeeze in some extra wins. San Fran winning today helped a ton. I'm mum on if Cleveland will go with Bosa or a QB. We need San Diego to pull off some miracles.

Cleveland would have to be all kinds of stupid to not grab a quarterback, but I'd actually imagine they trade Thomas and draft Tunsil first

[Inqui]

I can't quote posts atm for some reason, but at PurpleCity's post, this was the top 10 as of last week:

1. Tennessee Titans: 2-9 (.511 strength of schedule)

2. Cleveland Browns: 2-9 (.517 SOS)

3. Dallas Cowboys: 3-8 (.523 SOS)

4. San Diego Chargers: 3-8 (.528 SOS)

5. San Francisco 49ers: 3-8 (.534 SOS)

6. Miami Dolphins: 4-7 (.477 SOS)

7. Jacksonville Jaguars: 4-7 (.489 SOS)

8. Baltimore Ravens: 4-7 (.494 SOS)

9. Philadelphia Eagles: 4-7 (.511 SOS)

10. St. Louis Rams: 4-7 (.517 SOS)

Quickly reshuffling that order by the results so far, here's how that would look (no promises for accuracy since the SOS will vary from week to week):

1. Cleveland Browns: 2-9 (.517 strength of schedule)

2. Tennessee Titans: 3-9 (.511 SOS)

3. Dallas Cowboys: 3-8 (.523 SOS)

4. San Diego Chargers: 3-8 (.528 SOS) (assuming they lose their game in progress)

5. Jacksonville Jaguars: 4-7 (.489 SOS)

6. Baltimore Ravens: 4-7 (.494 SOS)

7. Philadelphia Eagles: 4-7 (.511 SOS) (assuming they lose their game in progress)

8. St. Louis Rams: 4-8 (.517 SOS)

9. San Francisco 49ers: 4-8 (.534 SOS)

10. Miami Dolphins: 5-7 (.477 SOS)

Need the Jags to start winning again. At least we know they're capable. Be nice if the Cowboys, Titans and Chargers each win another one too.

[PurpleCity5]

Cleveland would have to be all kinds of stupid to not grab a quarterback, but I'd actually imagine they trade Thomas and draft Tunsil first

Cleveland's front office has been pulling for Manziel hard. Mike Pettine clearly doesn't like him. I think Pettine is toast. Maybe Cleveland's front office decides that Manziel is the guy for them and drafts BPA once they fire Pettine. 

 

I also have to be honest with you. I don't see a clear cut no.1 overall pick in any of these QBs. Unless you got an Andrew Luck or Jamies Winston entering this draft, someone who you feel confident will be a great player, then I don't think you rule out Bosa. 

[Wildabeast88]

What's the draft order right now? I personally see us losing out FWIW. I hope Dallas and Tennessee can squeeze in some extra wins. San Fran winning today helped a ton. I'm mum on if Cleveland will go with Bosa or a QB. We need San Diego to pull off some miracles.

As of now we are around 10 depending on tie breakers

[Wildabeast88]

I can't quote posts atm for some reason, but at PurpleCity's post, this was the top 10 as of last week:

1. Tennessee Titans: 2-9 (.511 strength of schedule)

2. Cleveland Browns: 2-9 (.517 SOS)

3. Dallas Cowboys: 3-8 (.523 SOS)

4. San Diego Chargers: 3-8 (.528 SOS)

5. San Francisco 49ers: 3-8 (.534 SOS)

6. Miami Dolphins: 4-7 (.477 SOS)

7. Jacksonville Jaguars: 4-7 (.489 SOS)

8. Baltimore Ravens: 4-7 (.494 SOS)

9. Philadelphia Eagles: 4-7 (.511 SOS)

10. St. Louis Rams: 4-7 (.517 SOS)

Quickly reshuffling that order by the results so far, here's how that would look (no promises for accuracy since the SOS will vary from week to week):

1. Cleveland Browns: 2-9 (.517 strength of schedule)

2. Tennessee Titans: 3-9 (.511 SOS)

3. Dallas Cowboys: 3-8 (.523 SOS)

4. San Diego Chargers: 3-8 (.528 SOS) (assuming they lose their game in progress)

5. Jacksonville Jaguars: 4-7 (.489 SOS)

6. Baltimore Ravens: 4-7 (.494 SOS)

7. Philadelphia Eagles: 4-7 (.511 SOS) (assuming they lose their game in progress)

8. St. Louis Rams: 4-8 (.517 SOS)

9. San Francisco 49ers: 4-8 (.534 SOS)

10. Miami Dolphins: 5-7 (.477 SOS)

Need the Jags to start winning again. At least we know they're capable. Be nice if the Cowboys, Titans and Chargers each win another one too.

thanks for this chart

[Inqui]

thanks for this chart

No worries, like I say SB Nation will have a more accurate order in the next 24 hours or so.

 

Looks like Philly are about to stun the Cheetahs too. Won't affect the draft order this week, but it gives us a little breathing room.

[PurpleCity5]

Quickly reshuffling that order by the results so far, here's how that would look (no promises for accuracy since the SOS will vary from week to week):

1. Cleveland Browns: 2-9 (.517 strength of schedule)

2. Tennessee Titans: 3-9 (.511 SOS)

3. Dallas Cowboys: 3-8 (.523 SOS)

4. San Diego Chargers: 3-8 (.528 SOS) (assuming they lose their game in progress)

5. Jacksonville Jaguars: 4-7 (.489 SOS)

6. Baltimore Ravens: 4-7 (.494 SOS)

7. Philadelphia Eagles: 4-7 (.511 SOS) (assuming they lose their game in progress)

8. St. Louis Rams: 4-8 (.517 SOS)

9. San Francisco 49ers: 4-8 (.534 SOS)

10. Miami Dolphins: 5-7 (.477 SOS)

Need the Jags to start winning again. At least we know they're capable. Be nice if the Cowboys, Titans and Chargers each win another one too.

I think the Titans can make a few upsets. Upsets are much more apparent towards the end of the year, but when I look at their schedule, I lose hope. I will say this, Marcus Mariota has been playing at a pretty high level.

 

Also, Philip Rivers never gives in. He will compete till the very end. I think they get the win vs Miami.

[Inqui]

I think the Titans can make a few upsets. Upsets are much more apparent towards the end of the year, but when I look at their schedule, I lose hope. I will say this, Marcus Mariota has been playing at a pretty high level.

 

Also, Philip Rivers never gives in. He will compete till the very end. I think they get the win vs Miami.

On paper I see us, Tennessee and Los Angeles San Diego all losing out, but the Philly game today showed that you never really know how things are going to pan out.

[PurpleCity5]

On paper I see us, Tennessee and Los Angeles San Diego all losing out, but the Philly game today showed that you never really know how things are going to pan out.

San Diego will play Miami, I think they get that win. I don't know, I feel that with Philip Rivers they won't just roll over and die. 

[GrimCoconut]

San Diego will play Miami, I think they get that win. I don't know, I feel that with Philip Rivers they won't just roll over and die.

Don't the Chargers usually get hot at the end of the year? Lol there's still hope.

[PurpleCity5]

Don't the Chargers usually get hot at the end of the year? Lol there's still hope.

Yeah, hopefully. Not to mention they are the king of upsets. We can speak from experience, we've been on the wrong end of that one ourselves. 

Edited December 7, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah, hopefully. Not to mention they are the king of upsets. We can speak from experience, we've been on the wrong end of that one ourselves.

3/4 of their remaining games are against their division and the other is against Miami. Divisional games are those games that teams can win regardless of the record. The Broncos may be resting their players at the end of the year, too, depending. They play Denver in week 17.

The Browns could go .500 over their final for against Niners, Seahawks, Chiefs, and Steelers. They play Niners and Steelers at home and they usually play Pittsburgh tough.

The Titans are tough since they play the Jets, Patriots, Texans and Colts and play most away. I don't think they'll beat NE but they may beat the Texans &/or the Colts since they're divisional. The Jets are very iffy as well right now so the Titans could take that, too.

Cowboys could still contend for their division, as sad as it is, so they're not giving up. They also play the current 1st place Redskins twice out of their five remaining games. They also play the Bills and Jets, so they could possibly win another two games or so...Maybe three.

There's a lot of fluidity here. In two weeks I think we'll have a much better picture because I doubt much will change with only two weeks left in the season.

[Sami84]

3/4 of their remaining games are against their division and the other is against Miami. Divisional games are those games that teams can win regardless of the record. The Broncos may be resting their players at the end of the year, too, depending. They play Denver in week 17.

The Browns could go .500 over their final for against Niners, Seahawks, Chiefs, and Steelers. They play Niners and Steelers at home and they usually play Pittsburgh tough.

The Titans are tough since they play the Jets, Patriots, Texans and Colts and play most away. I don't think they'll beat NE but they may beat the Texans &/or the Colts since they're divisional. The Jets are very iffy as well right now so the Titans could take that, too.

Cowboys could still contend for their division, as sad as it is, so they're not giving up. They also play the current 1st place Redskins twice out of their five remaining games. They also play the Bills and Jets, so they could possibly win another two games or so...Maybe three.

There's a lot of fluidity here. In two weeks I think we'll have a much better picture because I doubt much will change with only two weeks left in the season.

 

if the browns say win 2..they would have 4 losses and we would be both 4-12 ( presuming we lose out which im certain we will)

 

what would that mean?

[Inqui]

if the browns say win 2..they would have 4 losses and we would be both 4-12 ( presuming we lose out which im certain we will)

 

what would that mean?

It would go to SOS, so as things stand today we'd get the higher pick because our SOS is weaker. But both our SOS figures will probably change between now and the draft, so it's hard to say how it'll look this far out.

Edited December 7, 2015 by Inqui

[PurpleCity5]

3/4 of their remaining games are against their division and the other is against Miami. Divisional games are those games that teams can win regardless of the record. The Broncos may be resting their players at the end of the year, too, depending. They play Denver in week 17.

The Browns could go .500 over their final for against Niners, Seahawks, Chiefs, and Steelers. They play Niners and Steelers at home and they usually play Pittsburgh tough.

The Titans are tough since they play the Jets, Patriots, Texans and Colts and play most away. I don't think they'll beat NE but they may beat the Texans &/or the Colts since they're divisional. The Jets are very iffy as well right now so the Titans could take that, too.

Cowboys could still contend for their division, as sad as it is, so they're not giving up. They also play the current 1st place Redskins twice out of their five remaining games. They also play the Bills and Jets, so they could possibly win another two games or so...Maybe three.

There's a lot of fluidity here. In two weeks I think we'll have a much better picture because I doubt much will change with only two weeks left in the season.

I don't have much hope on Cleveland winning that much more games honestly. They just seemed doomed from the way it looks. As far the Titans go, this one is tough because I think Mariota has had a splendid Rookie year. I think that the Titans will be looking towards finishing the season off strong. I don't think they will fall off but I hope they can pull off a few miracles. 

 

Dallas, I think they're going to play hard. They haven't gotten blow out or anything like that, they just won't seem to give up.

[GrimCoconut]

I don't have much hope on Cleveland winning that much more games honestly. They just seemed doomed from the way it looks. As far the Titans go, this one is tough because I think Mariota has had a splendid Rookie year. I think that the Titans will be looking towards finishing the season off strong. I don't think they will fall off but I hope they can pull off a few miracles.

Dallas, I think they're going to play hard. They haven't gotten blow out or anything like that, they just won't seem to give up.

Cleveland is certainly tricky and it could go either way. I wouldn't rule them out yet though.

[PurpleCity5]

Cleveland is certainly tricky and it could go either way. I wouldn't rule them out yet though.

Its hard to have hope in them. They have a tough schedual and they are awful. Still, you can never truly guess it with the upsets sometimes.

[Sami84]

Its hard to have hope in them. They have a tough schedual and they are awful. Still, you can never truly guess it with the upsets sometimes.

 

boy if they made that FG we would be totally assured the number 1 pick!

 

as much as some pople enjoyed it at the time..it could be the difference between us getting a potential All pro walter jones like talent in tunsil...

 

 

oh btw if they are trading joe thomas whos been elite again this year i'd consider it. he isnt slowing down..hes the best LT i've seen since ogden.

[PurpleCity5]

boy if they made that FG we would be totally assured the number 1 pick!

as much as some pople enjoyed it at the time..it could be the difference between us getting a potential All pro walter jones like talent in tunsil...

oh btw if they are trading joe thomas whos been elite again this year i'd consider it. he isnt slowing down..hes the best LT i've seen since ogden.

Yeah I think we're not in the running for the #1 pick, but we have a good shot ending up at the top 5. I don't root for us to lose games rather hope other teams manage to win their games. I think Tunsil is the #1 guy, even over Bosa. I think Tunsil has the potential to be really good and take this offense to another level.

As far as Joe Thomas goes, I would do it if both Bosa and Tunsil are gone. I mean lets be honest here, Thomas, 100% Wagner, and Yanda on one offensive line would just be unfair.

Edited December 7, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Mt. Crushmore]

Don't the Chargers usually get hot at the end of the year? Lol there's still hope.

 

Maybe if Rivers had any sort of help. I'm pretty sure they finished the Denver game with 2 WRs and 1 of whom is playing with a torn labrum. That OL has also been decimated.