Countdown to Joey Bosa

[wizard1]

Each week we see a Raven team that is just plain bad. Poor team discipline, poor coaching decisions, lackluster play-calling and poor execution, and above all else sub-par personnel continue to plague or team.

 

It's time to bring in Joey Bosa.

 

Let the count-down begin!!

 

 

[Static]

Joey Bosa doesn't coach or fix Roster blunders.

 

There have been multiple teams that pick high year in and year out and are still there.

[Cillmatic]

You spelled "Vernon Hargreaves" wrong.

[usmccharles]

Joey Bosa doesn't coach or fix Roster blunders.

 

There have been multiple teams that pick high year in and year out and are still there.

You forget the OP can see the future and knows everything

[ravefan52]

Joey Bosa doesn't coach or fix Roster blunders.

There have been multiple teams that pick high year in and year out and are still there.

And we're a much better drafting and more talented team than most that finish in the top 10 of the draft.

[xxhighriser]

So a defensive end would fix all of our troubles right now

[arnie_uk]

You spelled "Vernon Hargreaves" wrong.

thought you wanted ramsey

[TDubbs]

This team is so good at finding pass rushers in the later rounds, that I feel its almost unnecessary to get one in the top 5. Definitely on board for getting one of the top CB's. However if we did bring in Bosa it would be exciting to see him be mentored by the likes of Doom/Suggs. 

Edited November 18, 2015 by TDubbs

[Winchester]

This team is so good at finding pass rushers in the later rounds, that I feel its almost unnecessary to get one in the top 5. Definitely on board for getting one of the top CB's. However if we did bring in Bosa it would be exciting to see him be mentored by the likes of Doom/Suggs.

This team is so good at finding pass rushers in the later rounds, that I feel its almost unnecessary to get one in the top 5. Definitely on board for getting one of the top CB's. However if we did bring in Bosa it would be exciting to see him be mentored by the likes of Doom/Suggs.

Are we talking finding OK edge rushers like 8 sack a year players or game changer alpha male dominant edge rushers that propel dominant defenses?? The kind of players the reavens roster is void of.In that case ravens will take Bosa or Tunsil/Stanley!! Edited November 18, 2015 by Winchester

[edthehead]

WR,,,, please,,, we can always draft a good defense  .

 its offense we have a problem with , if we are top 5 trade back stockpile some picks,,, get  a true #1 ,, parlay a couple of those picks into the future,,, 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Are we talking finding OK edge rushers like 8 sack a year players or game changer alpha male dominant edge rushers that propel dominant defenses?? The kind of players the reavens roster is void of.In that case ravens will take Bosa or Tunsil/Stanley!!

You're the same person as "hardhitters" aren't you?

Fishy that two separate posters would consistently use the term "alpha males" so frequently, especially within the context of usually ridiculous posts.

Why so many aliases? Need alter egos so it appears someone agrees with you?

[Deflated Football]

WR,,,, please,,, we can always draft a good defense .

its offense we have a problem with , if we are top 5 trade back stockpile some picks,,, get a true #1 ,, parlay a couple of those picks into the future,,,

I no longer trust Ozzie with drafting WR's. Would rather just sign a proven vet even if they're north of 30. Flacco has success with those guys anyways.

[redrum52]

I no longer trust Ozzie with drafting WR's. Would rather just sign a proven vet even if they're north of 30. Flacco has success with those guys anyways.

I'm with you.  A lot more comfortable with Ozzie using a pick to snag a wr from someone else.  Use the picks on things we have a much better chance to hit on.

[JoeyFlex5]

WR,,,, please,,, we can always draft a good defense  .

 its offense we have a problem with , if we are top 5 trade back stockpile some picks,,, get  a true #1 ,, parlay a couple of those picks into the future,,, 

you think our offense is the problem this year? lol

[edthehead]

you think our offense is the problem this year? lol

nope,, not at all

but why get a true 1 ,,,

cause we need that spot filled also,,,

[edthehead]

I no longer trust Ozzie with drafting WR's. Would rather just sign a proven vet even if they're north of 30. Flacco has success with those guys anyways.

good  point 

[JoeyFlex5]

nope,, not at all

but why get a true 1 ,,,

cause we need that spot filled also,,,

because there isnt even a WR in this draft worth a top 10 pick, and we have holes just as big in other spots, like FS, OLB, CB, and if monroe goes down 1 more time then we will have a big hole at LT as well, all of this paired with the fact that this draft features some incredible top end talent at all of these positions, and i think we are best off just passing on a wr until the 2nd

[redlobster]

I think Baltimore ends up picking 3-5 and ends up trading back to 7-9 and walks away with one of the three :

 

Hargreaves

Ramsey

Stanley

Edited November 18, 2015 by redlobster

[Deflated Football]

I think Baltimore ends up picking 3-5 and ends up trading back to 7-9 and walks away with one of the three :

Hargreaves

Ramsey

Stanley

I could see and like that but what else would we get? An extra second or two?

[balfan23]

because there isnt even a WR in this draft worth a top 10 pick, and we have holes just as big in other spots, like FS, OLB, CB, and if monroe goes down 1 more time then we will have a big hole at LT as well, all of this paired with the fact that this draft features some incredible top end talent at all of these positions, and i think we are best off just passing on a wr until the 2nd

Absolutely ... we have so many needs. Just because we draft high, doesn't mean we suddenly abandon the concept that you've got a to get a playmaker and not fixate on a specific position. 

 

That said, our WR situation is scary for 2016. I don't think we should count on SSS coming back and I think it would be silly to expect that Perriman is going to be an impact player (I mean, he could be, but counting on that would be a mistake). Outside of that, what do we have? It won't be enough for us to go grab some vet off FA or via trade. 

 

It is just a real shame that Joe - entering into his prime - has no one who can get open downfield. Its sad to see us wasting that big arm of his. 

[Guest]

Wasted opportunity. 

 

Can't leave it go though without stating we've had guys behind this year, but Flacco has had a case of the short throws.

Absolutely ... we have so many needs. Just because we draft high, doesn't mean we suddenly abandon the concept that you've got a to get a playmaker and not fixate on a specific position. 

 

That said, our WR situation is scary for 2016. I don't think we should count on SSS coming back and I think it would be silly to expect that Perriman is going to be an impact player (I mean, he could be, but counting on that would be a mistake). Outside of that, what do we have? It won't be enough for us to go grab some vet off FA or via trade. 

 

It is just a real shame that Joe - entering into his prime - has no one who can get open downfield. Its sad to see us wasting that big arm of his. 

[balfan23]

By all accounts, there are no game changing WRs available in next year's draft. I just don't get the sense we'll go OT that early, so I think it is either OLB/DE (aka edge rusher), CB or FS. 

 

I know a LOT changes on draft boards in the final month leading to the draft (let alone 6-7 months ..) but I still think we're not going to end up with a top 5 ... more like 6-9. If that happens, Bosa is probably gone. 

 

You guys know more about these prospects than I .... Is Hargraves all that? Also, if Ramsey is listed as S ... if he a FS? If you don't believe in labeling between FS and SS ... I'm just asking ... is the guy a free roving ball hawk or a hard hitting, run support kind of player? If there is a true ball hawking FS in the college ranks - I'm very interested. 

[JoeyFlex5]

Absolutely ... we have so many needs. Just because we draft high, doesn't mean we suddenly abandon the concept that you've got a to get a playmaker and not fixate on a specific position. 

 

That said, our WR situation is scary for 2016. I don't think we should count on SSS coming back and I think it would be silly to expect that Perriman is going to be an impact player (I mean, he could be, but counting on that would be a mistake). Outside of that, what do we have? It won't be enough for us to go grab some vet off FA or via trade. 

 

It is just a real shame that Joe - entering into his prime - has no one who can get open downfield. Its sad to see us wasting that big arm of his. 

no matter how bleak it may look, you dont pass on bosa, stanley, tunsil, hargreaves or ramsey, for any of the wr's in this draft. if we play ourselves out of a top 5 pick and miss out on one of those guys, then its becomes more of an option, but probably should warrant a trade back if possible. 

 

the 2nd round appears to be a real sweet spot for finding a wr this year

[balfan23]

Wasted opportunity. 

 

Can't leave it go though without stating we've had guys behind this year, but Flacco has had a case of the short throws.

I can count on one hand the number of times we've had a guy open deep in 9 games. Not a large sample size. 

[balfan23]

no matter how bleak it may look, you dont pass on bosa, stanley, tunsil, hargreaves or ramsey, for any of the wr's in this draft. if we play ourselves out of a top 5 pick and miss out on one of those guys, then its becomes more of an option, but probably should warrant a trade back if possible. 

 

the 2nd round appears to be a real sweet spot for finding a wr this year

I'm thinking if we pick in the 6-9 range, one of those guys might slip and, IMO, it would most likely be Ramsey (because the S position just doesn't seem to get drafted highly). 

 

So to my previous question - what kind of S is he? Do you see him as a rangy, ball-hawking FS or not? 

[Inqui]

I'm thinking if we pick in the 6-9 range, one of those guys might slip and, IMO, it would most likely be Ramsey (because the S position just doesn't seem to get drafted highly). 

 

So to my previous question - what kind of S is he? Do you see him as a rangy, ball-hawking FS or not? 

Ramsey's a rangy playmaker who spends far more time darting around the field in coverage than being the prototypical box thumper. Far more Earl Thomas than Kam Chancellor, haha. Last year FSU also used him as a *LB a fair bit, so he's been used all over the park.

 

To your earlier question (about VH3), I haven't seen much of him so I can't speak to the reliability of it, but a lot of members here who I have a lot of respect for (especially around DB prospects, which honestly isn't a huge strength of mine as it is) seem to have him pegged as the best CB prospect since Revis. I can't really confirm or deny that myself, but the consensus is that he's a fantastic prospect too.

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm thinking if we pick in the 6-9 range, one of those guys might slip and, IMO, it would most likely be Ramsey (because the S position just doesn't seem to get drafted highly). 

 

So to my previous question - what kind of S is he? Do you see him as a rangy, ball-hawking FS or not? 

he is just a playmaker, hes very well rounded, hes good in coverage, sound tackler, physical, lengthy, athletic, extremely high iq, he can blitz, he can support the box, he can play nickel and press guys at the line very well, he can play the jumpball, but he doesnt quite seem to be a really elite ballhawk, he will probably end up the best safety in the league i think, but he is by no means an ed reed or charles woodson level ballhawk. i see him in the mold of a brian dawkins with a little more range. he is more the do-it-all type of safety, he excels at anything youll ask of him, but i just dont know if hes the kind of guy whos gonna lead the league in int's every other season.

[JoeyFlex5]

Ramsey's a rangy playmaker who spends far more time darting around the field in coverage than being the prototypical box thumper. Far more Earl Thomas than Kam Chancellor, haha. Last year FSU also used him as a *LB a fair bit, so he's been used all over the park.

 

To your earlier question (about VH3), I haven't seen much of him so I can't speak to the reliability of it, but a lot of members here who I have a lot of respect for (especially around DB prospects, which honestly isn't a huge strength of mine as it is) seem to have him pegged as the best CB prospect since Revis. I can't really confirm or deny that myself, but the consensus is that he's a fantastic prospect too.

as someone whos been a ramsey fanboy from day one, i have been leaning towards hargreaves more lately, because he truly is the best cb prospect we have seen in a very long time. i dont remember revis as a prospect because i wasnt into the draft really big back then, but i cant name a current nfl cb as impressive as hargreaves, at 5'10" and looking every bit of it, he plays the ball like he is a 6'2" wr, his ankles and hips are like jello, he can swivel and turn and burst and explode into breaks to stay in the wr's back pocket at all times and make it look effortless, you simply cannot beat the guy with a good route, he will stick to the best ran routes like glue, he has great anticipation as well and is always one step ahead, it doesnt matter how big a wr is he will be able to play up to their size, and the only way you can beat the guy is if the qb is able to place it way out of his reach and on the money every time. 

 

hes that good. but ramsey is every bit as good as well, and im torn between the 2 and would be happy either way. these boys are the real deal

[K-Dog]

So we are gonna ride this thread until April ?

[Purple Punishment]

So we are gonna ride this thread until April ?

Sounds good to me