Breshad Perriman placed on IR 11/17/2015

[BmoreBird22]

Actually, no they aren't interchangeable. Nice try, though

Because I'm sure he wants to sit on the sidelines and not play the game he loves. Nice try, though.

[A Fish Called Yanda]

Man, some of the posts in this thread are straight up disgusting.  People saying this is somehow Breshad's fault, that he doesn't care, that he's a bust.

 

Some people need to learn when to shut the hell up.

[BmoreBird22]

Yeah, that's how I see it too. Someone early on probably screwed up when diagnosing him and it set into motion a series of bad events that lead to him eventually getting IRed.

Misdiagnosis seem to happen a lot. I think it has to do with fans unrealistic expectation to be in the loop immediately and coaches wanting to appease the masses, so they just hand out a hasty answer without having all the facts or information. Truthfully, I would have rather had Harbaugh say that they were taking it day to day and gathering all the facts while they waited for the swelling to go down instead of him giving all these timetables for his return.

I fully blame the medical staff for misdiagnosis and the Ravens for rushing him and for giving all these, "He could play tomorrow," updates when they had no idea. Had they just said, "We don't currently have a timetable and we're going to let him heal," I think fans would have been fine, but when he's not coming back when the coach thinks he should (news flash: Harbaugh isn't a doctor), fans just get upset and have these unrealistic expectations and opinions.

This whole situation was just handled poorly

[1/28/01]

Man, some of the posts in this thread are straight up disgusting. People saying this is somehow Breshad's fault, that he doesn't care, that he's a bust.

Some people need to learn when to shut the hell up.

Aaaaaagreed!

[757RavensFan]

Man, some of the posts in this thread are straight up disgusting.  People saying this is somehow Breshad's fault, that he doesn't care, that he's a bust.

 

Some people need to learn when to shut the hell up.

 

Man, it's pathetic and disgusting.  We've ALL had ailments/sickness that prevented us from doing our job or going to work. But yet, they expect something different from this young man.  He's injured and can't play, bottom line.  Get over it and get over yourself for thinking he's anything more than ANOTHER NFL player that was IR'ed for the season.  

 

I wish him the best and look forward to him contributing next year.  I look at it this way, if he has a full recovery, we basically have 2 #1 draft picks next year. 

[Perfekt]

Medical staff doesn't prevent injuries. If someone tears their ACL it isn't the medical staff's fault.  Grasping at straws. 

 Medical staff performs the physicals that we base who we draft or pick up from free agency correct? Medical staff decides when a player is good to return right? Nope your right im grasping at straws.

 

Like I said our Medical staff needs to be checked because I dont trust their opinions as of late. Players get hurt but when your team stays at the top of the list of injuried players and you flat out draft players that dont pan out due to injuries I have to wonder what your looking at that we are missing.

 

Speaking of drafting I'm not sure I can take another draft of us getting a player based on how his body looks and not how he performs (Quadzilla). Have we really fallen so low as to just take shots in the dark now. This year makes me wonder why we didnt take a shot at a Brandon Marshall or Andre Johnson. I know your going to say cap but the way we move around the cap Im sure we could have found a way.

[TuckerTime9]

How the heck can someone be a bust if they haven't been able to play? This 100% wasn't Breshad's fault, if you want to be mad at someone be mad at Harbaugh for initially telling us it was a "day-to-day" injury. Was Gurley a bust before he got on the field? Some of you "fans" are absolute idiots, this season is already lost anyways, no need rushing him onto the field and making the injury worse for games that mean just about nothing besides worsening our current draft position.

[Tru11]

 Medical staff performs the physicals that we base who we draft or pick up from free agency correct? Medical staff decides when a player is good to return right? Nope your right im grasping at straws.

 

Like I said our Medical staff needs to be checked because I dont trust their opinions as of late. Players get hurt but when your team stays at the top of the list of injuried players and you flat out draft players that dont pan out due to injuries I have to wonder what your looking at that we are missing.

 

Speaking of drafting I'm not sure I can take another draft of us getting a player based on how his body looks and not how he performs (Quadzilla). Have we really fallen so low as to just take shots in the dark now. This year makes me wonder why we didnt take a shot at a Brandon Marshall or Andre Johnson. I know your going to say cap but the way we move around the cap Im sure we could have found a way.

 

im curieus to know how we where supposed to clear about 7 mil to get marshall under the cap.

[redrum52]

When Victor Cruz announced this week he was getting season-ending calf surgery, his Twitter timeline was flooded with ignorant nonsense, mostly from people questioning his dedication.

This type of thing always fascinates me. I've covered the NFL for more than 25 years, and I've never come across a lazy football player. Or one that isn't dedicated.

Do people think Cruz wanted to get seriously injured? Cruz has always been one of the hardest-working players on the Giants. So he's a bad guy or lazy because he has a life outside of football?

I know social media can at times be a cesspool, and there are far worse examples than trolls going after Cruz, but it's still ignorant.

 

This is from Mike Freeman when discussing the season ending injury to Victor Cruz. I don't usually like what he writes because of really inherent bias in a lot of cases, but this is one I cannot argue with. Basically, you can replace Cruz with Perriman and it'll hold true.

The Freeman article this was in was actually pretty spot on.  Talked about the quality of the NFL this year and importance of a good RB.  It made feel a little off actually agreeing with him for once...

[Static]

He better know the playbook in and out next year.

[Cillmatic]

Yup alot of teams drafted players before Diggs. I guess every pick every other team made are bust because Diggs is playing so well this season.

We were one of a few teams that desperately needed WR's though...

[BmoreBird22]

The Freeman article this was in was actually pretty spot on. Talked about the quality of the NFL this year and importance of a good RB. It made feel a little off actually agreeing with him for once...

Oddly, this is actually one I found myself nodding my head at, too...

[K-Dog]

Fire the medical staff.

God I love this place.

[K-Dog]

He better know the playbook in and out next year.

He can't.

A certain member here GUARANTEED Ttrssman will be fired at the end of this season so there is no point in memorizing a playbook.

[usmccharles]

Fire the medical staff.

God I love this place.

Our mascot is next...

[52520Andrew]

This situation would have been a lot easier if they had just been a lot more up front about it. This is supposed to be the future guy at WR that everyone is so excited about and yet they barely gave us any information on the injury. And if the medical staff do not know the situation or messed up, then just say it. The lack of information lets fans paint their own pictures and doesn't do much good for Perriman himself. This is a guy who we as fans are supposed to buying jerseys of and cheering for every sunday. It is a pretty dumb business move to play around with fans when it comes to stuff like this unless you want to alienate him from the fanbase

[PurpleCity5]

I think its premature to call him a bust. While this development has been frustrating, I think its unfair to him to call him a bust. Here's where I do stand though.

As of now it's believed that Perriman suffered a Grade-1 PCL sprain, I've personally never heard anyone miss the amount of time Perriman missed to a Grade-1 PCL, but never the less to miss the rest of the season to what is believed to be a strain on that PCL is just weird. I don't buy into the idea that Perriman suffered another injury, otherwise the doc would have saw it. To me it just doesn't make sense. What reason would the Ravens have to lie? Theres no competitive advantage and judging by Harbaughs expressions and body language I think the guy is telling the truth and it really is just a slow healing PCL.

Honestly, I completely agree with Ellison, we need to go into the off-season as if Perriman isn't on the roster. We failed to addressed the WR position in the off-season and no play makers have really emerged from this team. He didn't contribute this season so we honestly don't know. I have legit concerns about his PCL, again he missed a huge amount of time from a Grade-1 sprain and it only took a strain on his PCL to end his season. What if he re-injuries his PCL again? Then what? WR is already the worst positional group on the roster and it will only get worse if Smith Sr. opts for retirement.

Edited November 18, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Winchester]

I just cant help but laugh...

Feeling is mutual. Actually all delusional Homers are such entertaining creatures

[MTRavensFan]

Our mascot is next...

Not Poe!

Please, please, fire anybody but Poe - I just bought his jersey!

[jimmypowder]

Wizard of oz, right? Didn't we cut our fourth round OL player we got too?

This was a joke before but now its turning into a greek tragedy. Get used to the basement, boys

Ozzie overall has done a good job for us but this season screams time to resign Ozzie. Let the GM in waiting take over.

 

This has been the most unprepared Ravens season in history. 

Edited November 18, 2015 by jimmypowder

[arnie_uk]

Fire the medical staff.

God I love this place.

it's a legitimate argument. They misdiagnosed him so bad, that he now has to have surgery, apparently.

That lead to us mismanaging our roster, putting waller and camp on ir instead of Perriman for example. If we had camp, who to say we trade for givens and lose that pick?

It's had a massive snowball effect.

[K-Dog]

it's a legitimate argument. They misdiagnosed him so bad, that he now has to have surgery, apparently.

That lead to us mismanaging our roster, putting waller and camp on ir instead of Perriman for example. If we had camp, who to say we trade for givens and lose that pick?

It's had a massive snowball effect.

...and that is justification to fire the entire medical staff.

Okay.....

[jazz1988]

Ozzie overall has done a good job for us but this season screams time to resign Ozzie. Let the GM in waiting take over.

 

This has been the most unprepared Ravens season in history. 

 

There's a first time for everything...You can't say you're great if you haven't experienced failures .

[K-Dog]

Ozzie overall has done a good job for us but this season screams time to resign Ozzie. Let the GM in waiting take over.

 

This has been the most unprepared Ravens season in history. 

I dunno season one we didn't even have colors or a logo.

We were pretty unprepared season one. 

[Maryland]

I look at our WR corps and wonder who is worth a roster spot in 2016. Seems like only Perriman and SSS, maybe Aiken as like a 4th or 5th WR whom you hope you never need. Everyone else on our roster at WR would probably fail to make a good team's roster.

 

Look at the Bengals WR corps: AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Sanu, Tate, Mario Alford. They have 4 WRs better than anyone on our current roster. We can't keep relying on bad talent at the WR corps, especially in a league predicated on passing the ball, and especially with an offensive scheme that strongly favors passing the ball. Even if SSS returns and Perriman pans out, we still need to draft and groom a WR for the future, maybe even two WRs. There are a lot of good WRs who will be available in the 2nd round this year (it's a WR class with no blue-chip talent, but a lot of good middle-round talent). 

[Guest]

I look at our WR corps and wonder who is worth a roster spot in 2016. Seems like only Perriman and SSS, maybe Aiken as like a 4th or 5th WR whom you hope you never need. Everyone else on our roster at WR would probably fail to make a good team's roster.

 

Look at the Bengals WR corps: AJ Green, Marvin Jones, Sanu, Tate, Mario Alford. They have 4 WRs better than anyone on our current roster. We can't keep relying on bad talent at the WR corps, especially in a league predicated on passing the ball, and especially with an offensive scheme that strongly favors passing the ball. Even if SSS returns and Perriman pans out, we still need to draft and groom a WR for the future, maybe even two WRs. There are a lot of good WRs who will be available in the 2nd round this year (it's a WR class with no blue-chip talent, but a lot of good middle-round talent). 

 

If Perriman doesn't pan out, the F.O. will never take a WR in the 1st round again.

[Guest]

Ozzie overall has done a good job for us but this season screams time to resign Ozzie. Let the GM in waiting take over.

 

This has been the most unprepared Ravens season in history. 

 

Bisciotti needs to build a bronze statue to Ozzie and place it right outside the stadium.

 

Ozzie is 60 years old and candidly should have retired after the 2nd Championship.  To malinger on for longer doesn't allow us to move forward as a franchise.  Its time. It's just time is all.

[rmcjacket23]

Bisciotti needs to build a bronze statue to Ozzie and place it right outside the stadium.

 

Ozzie is 60 years old and candidly should have retired after the 2nd Championship.  To malinger on for longer doesn't allow us to move forward as a franchise.  Its time. It's just time is all.

Changes nothing. His replacement is literally being groomed by him and will undoubtedly evaluate similarly from a personnel and cap perspective.

Change in name only, not change in philosophy

[Guest]

it's a legitimate argument. They misdiagnosed him so bad, that he now has to have surgery, apparently.

That lead to us mismanaging our roster, putting waller and camp on ir instead of Perriman for example. If we had camp, who to say we trade for givens and lose that pick?

It's had a massive snowball effect.

 

I haven't heard of surgery yet, but doctors can't always find the problem right off.  It's not straightforward, which is very troubling for putting it behind him and us.

 

I hope they found something, if they haven't we are gonna need that field stretcher.  In the end, we have not drafted well for a long time at this position and the first year we accentuate it, we come up with question marks.  And this in the new PASS PASS PASS era.  Bisciotti probably has his antenna up.  If he doesn't this could get ugly, because we don't have the kind of team we had 3 years ago.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I never really liked perriman!! His 40 time was aggravating because anybody that ever watched aa legit 4.3 player run routes could see that he did not play to this 40 time he supposedly ran!! He played against low level competition in college and showed no route sharpness or savvy. His dad playing in the NFL should of made him an advanced route runner and he is not. I do not think he was a round1 prospect. Ravens needed a deep threat and reached because their only receivers were undrafted and a 36 yr old. And Campanaro who is injury prone himself. This is why you trade up in a draft. Because if you waste a pick on a loser like perriman you will be using another top draft pick on the same position. Think 2005 if the ravens offered their #1 and #2 draft pick for SS then. Most fans would have scoffed at a high price like that. However the ravens ended up with a bust in both rounds.

As for Perrimans injury it looked as if his I jury was already pre exposed before contact. That is the only reason to keep an injury hush. To not acknowledge Perriman should never of been drafted with his knee problems. He did not participate at the combine because of an injury.

So we should have traded up for who? Nelson Aghalor whose done nothing and been injured?

Davante Parker whose done nothing for a team in need of weapons?

Shoot even all the way up to Kevin White who also missed his entire rookie year?

And we would've had to mortgage the future to get up for Cooper. To the point where we wouldn't have a 1st rd pick in this coming draft. And that would be disastrous considering where we get a chance to pick.

I cannot wait until Perriman plays next year and dominates. Btw his dad was a speed receiver early in his career and was successful at it. He didn't become a crafty route runner until he aged and it was necessary for him to remain successful.

Julio Jones, Demeryius Thomas, Hopkins, Alshon, etc, etc were all not good route runners either. Perriman actually reminds me a lot of Thomas and I won't be surprised when he has similar success. Route running can be learned, but isn't as important when you're faster, stronger, can out body, and out leap almost every single DB in the league to the ball.

I think we got a steal with Perriman bc he didn't play big college ball. He may not play at 4.2 speed but who does? Torrey had 4.4 speed and burned everyone deep. Perriman plays faster, bigger, stronger and has better hands and route running than Torrey.

Bortles even said Perriman made his life so easy. He could just throw the ball up and he'd go get it for him time and time again. And id say he can recognize a quality WR when he sees one playing with Robinson and Hurns.

Joe is more talented a thrower and will make Perriman even better. And Perriman has athleticism and talent that Joe has never seen before. He will help make Joe the best QB he's ever been.