Breshad Perriman placed on IR 11/17/2015

[nyc9192]

Time to draft a #1 WR in the first or second round. In tired of living in wide receiver purgatory. Ozzies been disastrous with this most of his career. Let Decosta scout WR's or something idk.

I think its been disastrous more so because ozzie literally waits till the end of every draft to pick up bottom of the pile wr thats most likely gonna be on the practice squad.

[nyc9192]

Meanwhile Stefon Diggs has 507 receiving yards already. I wasn't high on Diggs or BP, but one of them is atleast proving me wrong.

I wanted diggs real bad.Watched the draft and wondered why we didn't pick him.literally could of been had in the 4th instead of waller.

Edited November 18, 2015 by nyc9192

[Winchester]

I never really liked perriman!! His 40 time was aggravating because anybody that ever watched aa legit 4.3 player run routes could see that he did not play to this 40 time he supposedly ran!! He played against low level competition in college and showed no route sharpness or savvy. His dad playing in the NFL should of made him an advanced route runner and he is not. I do not think he was a round1 prospect. Ravens needed a deep threat and reached because their only receivers were undrafted and a 36 yr old. And Campanaro who is injury prone himself. This is why you trade up in a draft. Because if you waste a pick on a loser like perriman you will be using another top draft pick on the same position. Think 2005 if the ravens offered their #1 and #2 draft pick for SS then. Most fans would have scoffed at a high price like that. However the ravens ended up with a bust in both rounds.

As for Perrimans injury it looked as if his I jury was already pre exposed before contact. That is the only reason to keep an injury hush. To not acknowledge Perriman should never of been drafted with his knee problems. He did not participate at the combine because of an injury.

[Tru11]

I wanted diggs real bad.Watched the draft and wondered why we didn't pick him.literally could of been had in the 4th instead of waller.

 

diggs had a lot of injury red flags , sup par production and did not exactly put up blazing numbers at his pro day and such.

[arnie_uk]

Any sources to back up the grade 2 tear and surgery claims?

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Nothing arnie. But a grade two tear is not a laughing matter. It's what made Keenan Allen fall to the third round and kept him out an extended period of time. If those reports are true, I'm no longer questioning Perriman.

[allblackraven]

Nothing arnie. But a grade two tear is not a laughing matter. It's what made Keenan Allen fall to the third round and kept him out an extended period of time. If those reports are true, I'm no longer questioning Perriman.

And even scope didn't find that tear? That's hard to believe, unless we're covering up medical screw up, as BmorBird22 said.

 

I hope Perriman is ready for next season and goes off like mad.

[usmccharles]

I never really liked perriman!! His 40 time was aggravating because anybody that ever watched aa legit 4.3 player run routes could see that he did not play to this 40 time he supposedly ran!! He played against low level competition in college and showed no route sharpness or savvy. His dad playing in the NFL should of made him an advanced route runner and he is not. I do not think he was a round1 prospect. Ravens needed a deep threat and reached because their only receivers were undrafted and a 36 yr old. And Campanaro who is injury prone himself. This is why you trade up in a draft. Because if you waste a pick on a loser like perriman you will be using another top draft pick on the same position. Think 2005 if the ravens offered their #1 and #2 draft pick for SS then. Most fans would have scoffed at a high price like that. However the ravens ended up with a bust in both rounds.

As for Perrimans injury it looked as if his I jury was already pre exposed before contact. That is the only reason to keep an injury hush. To not acknowledge Perriman should never of been drafted with his knee problems. He did not participate at the combine because of an injury.

I just cant help but laugh...

[Cillmatic]

Just remember, we drafted TRAY WALKER, Za'darius backupsmith and the mythical Perriman over Stefon Diggs.

[jimmypowder]

And even scope didn't find that tear? That's hard to believe, unless we're covering up medical screw up, as BmorBird22 said.

I hope Perriman is ready for next season and goes off like mad.

Yeah a scope from a well renowned expert in orthopedics .

Hmm . Just wondering if a scenario where Perriman says to himself , I could probably play this year but I'm not gonna risk it so

I'll tell the Ravens I'm just not ready to play , that it still hurts

Of course this is speculation and only Perriman knows this but you have to wonder if this is true .

Maybe he feels like I don't wanna take any chances and risk my career even though I feel completely fine .

Edited November 18, 2015 by jimmypowder

[HoldingCall]

Never caused him an issue in college.  Sort of crazy that it showed up THIS big this late.  

Makes me wonder about the training staff. Did they have Perriman doing squats, leg extensions and some other knee/joint exercise? while those exercises are OK for most both put stress on the knee and are bad for weak knees. Then there's the team injuries and IR numbers this season and last season in general. It just looks like something is going on.

[Purple Punishment]

I haven't seen any report saying he'll get surgery. Do you have a link? I'd like to read more on this.

I'm sorry, no link, heard it on NFLN yesterday evening

[BmoreBird22]

It was a grade 2? Where did you read that? That would certainly explain maybe why it's taken this long. Those take longer to heal and I was under the impression it was a grade 1. Maybe you're right. I'm going to be optimistic on his future. I want him to be great. I'm not one of those people calling him a bust nor am I calling Ozzie a fool for taking him. Even if I am really disappointed in him, I'm hoping that his injury was more serious than we were originally made aware, regardless of the intent behind it. I'd rather that be true than him (Perriman) be soft. I hate soft players and that just doesn't fit with me based on what I've seen from Perriman in college. 

 

I honestly didn't think the label fit him until only now that he's on IR with no indication it was a serious injury. That's my only concern here. I'd rather he need surgery to fix something that's not healing than him be soft because you can't fix soft. You can fix ligaments. 

I never heard a thing. I think most people assumed that it was a grade one because Harbaugh kept insisting that it'd be "just a few days", but I'm convinced it was more serious and the Ravens rushed their assessment. He was getting a lot of his inspection and the MRI done when their was a good amount of swelling still going on with that knee. They could have botched the entire thing and been just as anxious as us fans to see their first first round offensive player at a skill position in eight years. Flacco, Oher, and Perriman were the only three offensive players selected with the first pick that the Ravens had in Joe's entire tenure. Maybe the front office was just really eager to see what Joe could do with real weapons. I don't know. 

 

The only reason I say it's a grade 2 is because Hensley predicted a return for October and it seemed that's what the injury was on course for as it kept developing. We just never got an answer beyond it being a "knee sprain". It started as a bruise, then a strained tendon, and then a sprained knee, but we were never told the degree. 

I'm thoroughly convinced the Ravens botched the entire evaluation and medical process and then rushed him back to where he set himself back for the entire season. Maybe Harbaugh was so upset with how long it was taking because he made the ultimate decision to rush him back. 

It's pure speculation, but considering he had a history of playing through injury and now a sprain is costing him his rookie season,  I have to really question the coaching staff here.

[GrimCoconut]

I never heard a thing. I think most people assumed that it was a grade one because Harbaugh kept insisting that it'd be "just a few days", but I'm convinced it was more serious and the Ravens rushed their assessment. He was getting a lot of his inspection and the MRI done when their was a good amount of swelling still going on with that knee. They could have botched the entire thing and been just as anxious as us fans to see their first first round offensive player at a skill position in eight years. Flacco, Oher, and Perriman were the only three offensive players selected with the first pick that the Ravens had in Joe's entire tenure. Maybe the front office was just really eager to see what Joe could do with real weapons. I don't know.

The only reason I say it's a grade 2 is because Hensley predicted a return for October and it seemed that's what the injury was on course for as it kept developing. We just never got an answer beyond it being a "knee sprain". It started as a bruise, then a strained tendon, and then a sprained knee, but we were never told the degree.

I'm thoroughly convinced the Ravens botched the entire evaluation and medical process and then rushed him back to where he set himself back for the entire season. Maybe Harbaugh was so upset with how long it was taking because he made the ultimate decision to rush him back.

It's pure speculation, but considering he had a history of playing through injury and now a sprain is costing him his rookie season, I have to really question the coaching staff here.

Hmm you could be right. Maybe I've been a little harsh on him. You might be right. I'm just going off what Harbaugh said at face value but it's certainly possible he lied. I still don't see why he'd lie about it. I'd imagine the player and agent would've set the record straight if there was any lie put out regarding the severity of his injury but who knows.

I'm hoping they shine some light on this. Maybe the doctors lied to John or pulled a CYA due to not getting the injury right initially. I dunno.

Edited November 18, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[Tank 92]

This development just stays in line with the theme of the 2015 Ravens. Nothing is surprising at this point.

[BmoreBird22]

Hmm you could be right. Maybe I've been a little harsh on him. You might be right. I'm just going off what Harbaugh said at face value but it's certainly possible he lied. I still don't see why he'd lie about it. I'd imagine the player and agent would've set the record straight if there was any lie put out regarding the severity of his injury but who knows.

I'm hoping they shine some light on this. Maybe the doctors lied to John or pulled a CYA due to not getting the injury right initially. I dunno.

I think it's just possible that they were too hasty. From what I was just researching, the initial MRI was done when there was still swelling and I couldn't find anything on any follow ups to actually confirm the severity. 

 

Then, he gets the scope and a stem cell injection (is it really necessary if it's only a grade one?), but they say no new injury occurred. What was that injury in the first place? And could it be that it was healing, but then he re-injured it back to square one? Like, no new injury occurred, but hey, we put him right back to where he started. 

 

I just never saw an ounce of straightforwardness with this entire situation and I just want to hear an honest answer with regards to it, but now that he's on season ending IR, I don't think he'll ever face the media this season and I know he wouldn't come out and call out the media.

 

Could be that he's asked his agent not to say anything for fear of slighting the organization for mishandling this entire situation. 

Honestly, I couldn't even begin to imagine what the real reason is, but I have to believe the organization was just never transparent with what happened.

[BmoreBird22]

When Victor Cruz announced this week he was getting season-ending calf surgery, his Twitter timeline was flooded with ignorant nonsense, mostly from people questioning his dedication.

This type of thing always fascinates me. I've covered the NFL for more than 25 years, and I've never come across a lazy football player. Or one that isn't dedicated.

Do people think Cruz wanted to get seriously injured? Cruz has always been one of the hardest-working players on the Giants. So he's a bad guy or lazy because he has a life outside of football?

I know social media can at times be a cesspool, and there are far worse examples than trolls going after Cruz, but it's still ignorant.

 

This is from Mike Freeman when discussing the season ending injury to Victor Cruz. I don't usually like what he writes because of really inherent bias in a lot of cases, but this is one I cannot argue with. Basically, you can replace Cruz with Perriman and it'll hold true.

[RaineV1]

I never heard a thing. I think most people assumed that it was a grade one because Harbaugh kept insisting that it'd be "just a few days", but I'm convinced it was more serious and the Ravens rushed their assessment. He was getting a lot of his inspection and the MRI done when their was a good amount of swelling still going on with that knee. They could have botched the entire thing and been just as anxious as us fans to see their first first round offensive player at a skill position in eight years. Flacco, Oher, and Perriman were the only three offensive players selected with the first pick that the Ravens had in Joe's entire tenure. Maybe the front office was just really eager to see what Joe could do with real weapons. I don't know. 

 

The only reason I say it's a grade 2 is because Hensley predicted a return for October and it seemed that's what the injury was on course for as it kept developing. We just never got an answer beyond it being a "knee sprain". It started as a bruise, then a strained tendon, and then a sprained knee, but we were never told the degree. 

I'm thoroughly convinced the Ravens botched the entire evaluation and medical process and then rushed him back to where he set himself back for the entire season. Maybe Harbaugh was so upset with how long it was taking because he made the ultimate decision to rush him back. 

It's pure speculation, but considering he had a history of playing through injury and now a sprain is costing him his rookie season,  I have to really question the coaching staff here.

Yeah, that's how I see it too. Someone early on probably screwed up when diagnosing him and it set into motion a series of bad events that lead to him eventually getting IRed.

[jazz1988]

Just remember, we drafted TRAY WALKER, Za'darius backupsmith and the mythical Perriman over Stefon Diggs.

 

Yup alot of teams drafted players before Diggs. I guess every pick every other team made are bust because Diggs is playing so well this season.

[Perfekt]

We need a new medical staff because they have been terrible as of late. We have remain one of the most injuried teams the last 3 years. Im sure if someone checked the stats we are in the top 3 the last 3 years for injuries. I mean seeing all these injuries you have to begin to wonder if your medical staff really knows what they are doing.

 

As for Perriman I wasnt excited for him from the start and Im not going to start getting excited when he comes back next year. He already looked like he couldnt catch the ball and now he may be labled injury prone. Yet another player to add the long list of failed drafted WRs. At the moment it looks like Waller is going to be the better option.

[Dr. Kelley]

Oh...Diggs will finish the season with at least 1000 yards. Can you believe we could've got him with our comp pick? I mean everyone in MD knew he was a valuable player. He was picked @ 5th round. Unbelievable!

Wizard of oz, right? Didn't we cut our fourth round OL player we got too?

This was a joke before but now its turning into a greek tragedy. Get used to the basement, boys

[atomicfront]

This kind of makes me angry. I understand injuries happen, but they made it seem like it was not a big deal. Now we have huge ?? At wr next year. If Steve retires then we are really in deep trouble.

 

If he retires we are in deep trouble?  We were in deep trouble with him playing this season. 

[atomicfront]

We need a new medical staff because they have been terrible as of late. We have remain one of the most injuried teams the last 3 years. Im sure if someone checked the stats we are in the top 3 the last 3 years for injuries. I mean seeing all these injuries you have to begin to wonder if your medical staff really knows what they are doing.

 

As for Perriman I wasnt excited for him from the start and Im not going to start getting excited when he comes back next year. He already looked like he couldnt catch the ball and now he may be labled injury prone. Yet another player to add the long list of failed drafted WRs. At the moment it looks like Waller is going to be the better option.

 

Medical staff doesn't prevent injuries. If someone tears their ACL it isn't the medical staff's fault.  Grasping at straws. 

[Dr. Kelley]

Yup alot of teams drafted players before Diggs. I guess every pick every other team made are bust because Diggs is playing so well this season.

But ozzie recognized that talent right away and picked him up, right? Oh wait- we got "Quadzilla". Who's not even on the roster anymore.

Perriman will be an injury case and it will hamper his career and in 5 years he will be selling shoes with elam. They aren't cut out for professional football, eithee of them. In oz we trust, indeed.

[Dr. Kelley]

When Victor Cruz announced this week he was getting season-ending calf surgery, his Twitter timeline was flooded with ignorant nonsense, mostly from people questioning his dedication.

This type of thing always fascinates me. I've covered the NFL for more than 25 years, and I've never come across a lazy football player. Or one that isn't dedicated.

Do people think Cruz wanted to get seriously injured? Cruz has always been one of the hardest-working players on the Giants. So he's a bad guy or lazy because he has a life outside of football?

I know social media can at times be a cesspool, and there are far worse examples than trolls going after Cruz, but it's still ignorant.

This is from Mike Freeman when discussing the season ending injury to Victor Cruz. I don't usually like what he writes because of really inherent bias in a lot of cases, but this is one I cannot argue with. Basically, you can replace Cruz with Perriman and it'll hold true.

Actually, no they aren't interchangeable. Nice try, though

[mc_red23]

Via Twitter Perriman finally says something about his situation.  

 

 

I don't know what support he's on about, all I've seen is tons of people writing him off. 

[Drew P]

Wizard of oz, right? Didn't we cut our fourth round OL player we got too?

This was a joke before but now its turning into a greek tragedy. Get used to the basement, boys

 

No, their fifth rounder was cut this year. 4th rounder was Tray Walker whom has yet to even hint at being anything but a core ST's player...if that.

[FastEddie]

Via Twitter Perriman finally says something about his situation.  

 

 

Guess he doesn't read these forums much... 

[jazz1988]

But ozzie recognized that talent right away and picked him up, right? Oh wait- we got "Quadzilla". Who's not even on the roster anymore.

Perriman will be an injury case and it will hamper his career and in 5 years he will be selling shoes with elam. They aren't cut out for professional football, eithee of them. In oz we trust, indeed.

 

You not making any sense because you honestly haven't realized that Diggs was drafted way before Robert Myers in the fifth round along with Nick Boyle. If The Ravens wanted to get Diggs it would have to be in  the fourth round where they took Buck Allen,  Zadarius Smith and Tray Walker.

 

 For your other statement referring to Perriman and Elam Ravens fans or any fan in general make me sick with comments like this smh.

[Dr. Kelley]

You not making any sense because you honestly haven't realized that Diggs was drafted way before Robert Myers in the fifth round along with Nick Boyle. If The Ravens wanted to get Diggs it would have to be in the fourth round where they took Buck Allen, Zadarius Smith and Tray Walker.

For your other statement referring to Perriman and Elam Ravens fans or any fan in general make me sick with comments like this smh.

Ha recognizing the teams complete fails in draft choices over the last several years makes you sick, huh? You must be puking a lot lately. Get used to the basement, we are gonna be here for a while.