Bosa, Hargreaves or Ramsey?

[Cillmatic]

Seeing how we are likely destined for a top 5 pick I'm 100% sure we're drafting one of these guys. Issue is I'm so undecided on who is the BEST for us. Who would your pick be?

[xxDarby]

Bosa all the way

Edited November 16, 2015 by xxDarby

[FastEddie]

Ramsey...we need our physical identity back

[JoeyFlex5]

any of them, but dont count out either of the top 2 OTs and nkemdiche.

[Inqui]

Take the best talent available, so don't mess around and just take Bosa - as much as I love the DBs (especially Ramsey).

 

I agree with the above post about Stanley, Tunsil and Kim D being well and truly in the picture too.

[g8or_102352]

I would take either of the DB's, but we will probably trade down.

[Clmraven]

VH3 is my favorite, but bosa would seem like the logical pick if he was there. Ramsey I like a lot but I would probably take those 2 ahead of him. but it's my opinion that the biggest difference maker on defense would be a new DC.

[Jamal]

Feel like I change every day on which guy I'd rather go for. If it comes down to these guys, I'm going to put my faith in whoever Ozzie decides to go with.

[gabefergy]

Bosa, but still doubt we pick top 5 when all is said and done. Hargreaves or Ramsey more likely to be in our range.

[PurpleCity5]

I don't care. Either of will be fine with me. I just want a playmaker.

[JoeKnows]

Ramsey

[Maryland]

Feel like I change every day on which guy I'd rather go for. If it comes down to these guys, I'm going to put my faith in whoever Ozzie decides to go with.

This is exactly how I am lol. For the longest time I was on the Hargreaves bandwagon, but I've spent at least one week flirting with each of Tunsil, Ramsey, and/or Bosa. 

 

Plus I've seen some pretty nice WRs drop to us in round 2 in various mocks I've seen. If we're choosing between any of these players I'll just trust in Oz and be happy. 

[RavensFanMania]

Ramsey...we need our physical identity back

I'm with you on this and he is my first choice as well, but I wouldn't mind VH3 or Bosa either.  Actually I wouldn't mind Stanley or Tunsil either, so we are in good position if we don't trade down and trading down is my first choice at this point, but not that far.

[PurpleCity5]

My preference would be Bosa in the 1st and WR in the 2nd. But I don't mind what we do right now, I want difference makers with our first two picks.

[JO_75]

It all depends on where we pick and how the off season plays out. For example, let's say we move on from Kendrick Lewis and decide to take Hargreaves and move Webb to FS. Or we take Ramsey, put him at FS and keep Webb at CB. Both of those options mean contribution from day one. We take Bosa, and our top pick is sitting behind 2 starters who are in their 30's but will only be a relief/depth pass rusher. You don't take a relief/depth pass rusher in the top 5/10. So either Suggs retires, or we let Dumervil go and take Bosa to replace him. Otherwise Bosa won't be seeing the field much during his rookie year. 

 

I like Bosa but we can get a pass rusher in the second, I'd much rather take Hargreaves or Ramsey and fill a hole in our terrible secondary than take a guy that won't really contribute until 2 years later(when Suggs is retired and Dumervil's contract is up).

[PurpleCity5]

I might get heat for this but I might go with the DBs, Ramsey or Hargreaves over Bosa. I like some of the edge rushers in the 2nd round.

Edited November 16, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[thieverycorporation]

I like most options that have already been discussed previously by some of the most informed posters. So I'd say the best options are to either move back and gather picks to acquire as many highly regarded players that may slide to the projected slots within the move or to take the positional player that has the most significant drop off after the those deemed elite maybe taken. And of the options mentioned that would seemingly be upgrades to this struggling franchise. The questions I'd have about the  situation are who's is deemed as a weakness currently on the team and who is going to coach them up to play those positions. I truly believe that the coaches are the weakest link in our efforts to succeed. There is talent on this team but key problems exist weekly. It is aided by the yearly turnover or raids on the coaching staff. There should be clauses inserted into the future contracts that would preclude yearly moves. I.E. Kubiack took his second in command when he departed to Denver. Less loyal coaches to there initial organizations leads to instabilities thru-out many teams. And having said/witnessed that, an organization with high aspirations for it's roster and playoff implications would outwardly request that if the candidate was hired for the position that he/she would waive the option to relocate/accept another organizations offer. Barring a head coaching assignment. If it's a lateral move it should be available to a veto by the teams exec's. The main problems really stem from the lack of continuity in leadership. Mixed signals will allows disrupt the flow.

Edited November 16, 2015 by thieverycorporation

[BmoreBird22]

It all depends on where we pick and how the off season plays out. For example, let's say we move on from Kendrick Lewis and decide to take Hargreaves and move Webb to FS. Or we take Ramsey, put him at FS and keep Webb at CB. Both of those options mean contribution from day one. We take Bosa, and our top pick is sitting behind 2 starters who are in their 30's but will only be a relief/depth pass rusher. You don't take a relief/depth pass rusher in the top 5/10. So either Suggs retires, or we let Dumervil go and take Bosa to replace him. Otherwise Bosa won't be seeing the field much during his rookie year. 

 

I like Bosa but we can get a pass rusher in the second, I'd much rather take Hargreaves or Ramsey and fill a hole in our terrible secondary than take a guy that won't really contribute until 2 years later(when Suggs is retired and Dumervil's contract is up).

The Ravens did exactly this with Suggs...

 

Plus, with Bosa, he brings the ability play on the edge, but his best fit would probably be as an interior rusher in the nickel and to sit behind Suggs and learn how to drop into coverage. He's only been doing it this year.

Edited November 16, 2015 by BmoreBird22

[thieverycorporation]

I might get heat for this but I might go with the DBs, Ramsey or Hargreaves over Bosa. I like some of the edge rushers in the 2nd round.

You shouldn't get any negs. It's your option. Your post  most often are open-minded. 

[Shutdown215]

Hargreaves, reasons: A.J. Green, Antonio Brown, Josh Gordon

[GrimCoconut]

I think the Ravens take Bosa over any prospect if he's there. He fits what we want in a prospect too much.

After him, I think we'd take Hargreaves. That's not necessarily my personal preference, just what I think the Ravens will do.

[usmccharles]

I'd love to go Hargreaves and get Ogbha somehow, don't know if that's possible, but if that's how our first two picks looked... Consider me happy.

I like the shutdown aspect of Hargreaves and seems like a playmaker. I won't lie though, the thought of Ramsey roving the backfield and making plays really excites. I miss that in reed, as I'm sure we all do

I'm just in love with Ogbha. Ever since I started watching stuff on all the prospects everyone talks about, HD just excites me.

[Dubs]

My order would be Bosa, Haergraves and lastly Ramsey. Bosa is a freak/great football player, not sure what more you could want out of an edge guy coming out of college. I also really like some of the pass rushers latter on but to me it is no reason not to take Bosa if you think he is the better player of the three.

[Cillmatic]

Starting to think Ramsey's a better CB than Hargreaves.

[GrimCoconut]

I'd love to go Hargreaves and get Ogbha somehow, don't know if that's possible, but if that's how our first two picks looked... Consider me happy.

I like the shutdown aspect of Hargreaves and seems like a playmaker. I won't lie though, the thought of Ramsey roving the backfield and making plays really excites. I miss that in reed, as I'm sure we all do

I'm just in love with Ogbha. Ever since I started watching stuff on all the prospects everyone talks about, HD just excites me.

Yeah, Ogbah is a really nice prospect. I swear he reminds me of Suggs when I watch him. I just love the way he plays. I wouldn't be surprised if we wanted to get him and a guy like Hargreaves if we traded back a little, or even Ramsey and Ogbah. I think getting both of them would be awesome. It all depends on what their stock is at the time of the draft. So much can happen between now and then. It's so unpredictable atm. Bosa is a beast, too. 

 

I like our position to fill needs with BPA this year.

[usmccharles]

Yeah, Ogbah is a really nice prospect. I swear he reminds me of Suggs when I watch him. I just love the way he plays. I wouldn't be surprised if we wanted to get him and a guy like Hargreaves if we traded back a little, or even Ramsey and Ogbah. I think getting both of them would be awesome. It all depends on what their stock is at the time of the draft. So much can happen between now and then. It's so unpredictable atm. Bosa is a beast, too.

I like our position to fill needs with BPA this year.

I think your the one who turned me on to oghba actually. Ans Yea, he plays jus t like Suggs, wouls be a perfect fit and situation for him to learn

[Baltimore RAYvens]

My order is Bosa - Ramsey - Hargreaves. As it's been stated before we want a pass rusher and Bosa looks like he could be that guy and a good FS can cover up crappy CB play, and then Hargreaves is just so sound with his technique that he'd be hard to pass on

[PurpleCity5]

My order is Bosa - Ramsey - Hargreaves. As it's been stated before we want a pass rusher and Bosa looks like he could be that guy and a good FS can cover up crappy CB play, and then Hargreaves is just so sound with his technique that he'd be hard to pass on

I noticed how a lot of people point out that FS's can cover up poor CB play and while I feel this is true to an extant I strongly feel this isn't always the case neither is it the case in most instances. I can point to multiple teams, Seattle, New England, and San Diego who have feel victim to this. Teams have been constantly attacking their #2's and 3's. Especially Seattle, Cary Williams got picked on all-day against Arizona. NE's other CBs were hammered against New York and that will likely be the reoccurring theme for theme. It will hurt them eventually. I don't see many examples of FS's covering up CBs unless that FS has a shutdown CB along his side. I'm not trying to sound annoyed or come across as arrogant, but I really don't understand this argument. 

Edited November 17, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[ravefan52]

A great FS can bail out CB's who make mistakes and great a CB can make a FS's job a lot easier and allow him to roam around more. This CB vs S argument has been going on for awhile, but there's a definite answer. There have been plenty of examples of both throughout the league. It really just depends on what you prefer and the defensive scheme the team runs.

[Cillmatic]

I think Bosa would offer Suggs some relief time plus Bosa could pretty much just take the year to learn and bulk up. He's an inch taller than Watt, I'm hoping he can get just as big. I think he can get close to Watt's size after about a year.