[News] Elvis Dumervil: 'I Take Full Responsibility'

[RavenManiac#7]

And you call yourself a fan? Sure, I believe a win is less likely the further down this season, but I still think it possible. What kills us is the penalties. It's obvious the guys aren't all on the same page. I saw some people play lights out as well. I'm sorry that Doom was the only one playing on that snap and that he grabbed Bortles wrong and lost them the game. But he was also the only one who played. He had 2 sacks. Lardarius Webb played lights out. Juice is without an argument the most impressive fullback in the league. Kamar Aiken stepped up bigtime, he was better than I expected. Our TEs all made the effort. Will Hill had a penalty for late hit, but apart from that, he's brilliant. Those are only the guys who played well. Again, what broke our back is the penalties.

I agree with Some of the things you say but, Dorota, these penalties have been going on All year. Actually, we were committing them at a high number las year as well. For this problem to have existed for this long it seems to indicate that Harbaugh is Not holding these players accountable. The dumb ones should be drawing fines and seats on the bench for a while. But all we hear from him is baloney. No hint, that holds any water, that anything is about to change. You're right. Penalties Are killing us but, it sure seems like Harbs has No plans to address the problem, and that, in itself, is a problem.

[Dorota]

I agree with Some of the things you say but, Dorota, these penalties have been going on All year. Actually, we were committing them at a high number las year as well. For this problem to have existed for this long it seems to indicate that Harbaugh is Not holding these players accountable. The dumb ones should be drawing fines and seats on the bench for a while. But all we hear from him is baloney. No hint, that holds any water, that anything is about to change. You're right. Penalties Are killing us but, it sure seems like Harbs has No plans to address the problem, and that, in itself, is a problem.

True. I don't know what would help. For every penalty make the whole unit sprint the field until two players throw up? Do push-ups like they do in Buffallo with Rex Ryan? I don't see into practice so don't know what is being done about it, but it sure isn't enough. What's sad is that it's even the good players that commit them. Will Hill tends to have one a game. Kendrick Lewis, who is not that great anyway seems to have penalties consistently. Jimmy has one from time to time. Timmy Jernigan had a bonehead one this year. It's players that are useful on the field, but are like a lose cannon for 15 yard penalties. Babin got cut over them, but it seems the message had no impact.

[RavenManiac#7]

Can't wait till the end of the year "State of the Ravens" address to see what Oz and Bisciotti have to say about this season? Just numb at this point. Really is the worst team in the history of the Ravens. Took 20 years but they did it. Now what are they going to do to fix it? Does anyone really think Joe is a 20 million a year QB?

With the weapons the FO has given him, we'll never know. Despite that indisputable fact, Joe has achieved an incredible number of records and achievements Without decent weapons. I guarantee you, that if we had not paid him, somebody would have. And, don't give me the, We should have gone with Tyrod Taylor crap. Very few, Very few, would have predicted the degree of success he's had in Buffalo. Not even his biggest supporters. I, actually, Did think he would win the starting job up there but, still, he's done better than I anticipated. Fact is, though, Tyrod is playing for a better team than Joe is. That Does make a difference.

[The Mom Gene]

I agree with Some of the things you say but, Dorota, these penalties have been going on All year. Actually, we were committing them at a high number las year as well. For this problem to have existed for this long it seems to indicate that Harbaugh is Not holding these players accountable. The dumb ones should be drawing fines and seats on the bench for a while. But all we hear from him is baloney. No hint, that holds any water, that anything is about to change. You're right. Penalties Are killing us but, it sure seems like Harbs has No plans to address the problem, and that, in itself, is a problem.

If you check the Green Bay Game, and the Seattle game last night...  it's rampant with the penalties.  Fact is, the refs are "trying to make the game safer", and not allowing stuff that has been happening for YEARS.  Plays that NEVER drew a flag are now drawing them.  Hence why the players are looking stunned after the calls.  Don't even go there with the whole "undisciplined" thing.  It's almost beyond me how you can defend the pass at all in this league anymore.

 

Not only that, but they are sooooo inconsistent with the flags.  I joked yesterday about the Refs trying to "level out" the league.  Teams like the Ravens, Packers, Seahawks, etc. are getting hosed with all the flags...  Refs are determining games, shifting momentum, and the fans are getting sick of it.  You're gonna start hearing more and more boo-ing as the season progresses, and not only from Ravens fans. 

[RavenManiac#7]

That hurt ... and no only in the outcome of this game. 

 

We've nothing to play for other than to see some guys that we have show us they are worth keeping next year. We can't turn over 3/4 of our roster in a season ... we need some of these guys to look like keepers. Ross - like so many of our players, can look good one minute and give you hope and then turn around and kill you. He has a really nice return to put us in to JAX territory ... then muffs a punt that costs us dearly. 

I agree 100% that we should be using the rest of this season for evaluating purposes. You mention Ross. Well, we really shouldn't be surprised. That's been his MO, and that's why Detroit made him available to us. They drafted another returner because Ross fumbled so many times for them when he was there. That's twice now that he's fumbled for us. Kinda reminiscent of Asa. He makes some nice returns, but he's just too prone to coughing up the ball. Maybe it's time to give Mostert a shot at returning punts. Like I said, Evaluate!

[mc_red23]

It's not Doom's fault we lost this game. Doom's penalty was only the LAST mistake in a game with TOO MANY mistakes to realistically expect to come away with a victory. That was a collective TEAM loss.

 

I came on to post as much. 

 

Dumervil's mistake seems to get a lot more attention because it was the final bad play of the game but there were so many things that went wrong yet again. Failed catches, failed interceptions, going for it on 4th down early on when a field goal would have been useful, Lewis with his unnecessary roughness penalty, another ton of penalties from everybody else, bad play calling on offense, giving up big yards on 3rd downs, not running the ball anywhere near enough etc. Hopefully Dumervil knows he isn't the only who [profanity deleted]ed up at some point.

[RavenManiac#7]

If you check the Green Bay Game, and the Seattle game last night...  it's rampant with the penalties.  Fact is, the refs are "trying to make the game safer", and not allowing stuff that has been happening for YEARS.  Plays that NEVER drew a flag are now drawing them.  Hence why the players are looking stunned after the calls.  Don't even go there with the whole "undisciplined" thing.  It's almost beyond me how you can defend the pass at all in this league anymore.

 

Not only that, but they are sooooo inconsistent with the flags.  I joked yesterday about the Refs trying to "level out" the league.  Teams like the Ravens, Packers, Seahawks, etc. are getting hosed with all the flags...  Refs are determining games, shifting momentum, and the fans are getting sick of it.  You're gonna start hearing more and more boo-ing as the season progresses, and not only from Ravens fans. 

You have a good point, Mom Gene, and I have no doubt that you're right to some degree. But this problem with the Ravens has been going on for more than this season, and Surely you can recognize that quite a few of our penalties are of the really dumb and stupid variety. Those are the ones that really get My goat. And those are the ones that I'd like to hear Harbaugh say that he's instituting a fine or bench time for. I just want to hear him Publicly state that he's doing Something to try to fix it. And as for the booing that you're predicting, I just hope that the refs realize who the boos are being directed towards.

[The Mom Gene]

You have a good point, Mom Gene, and I have no doubt that you're right to some degree. But this problem with the Ravens has been going on for more than this season, and Surely you can recognize that quite a few of our penalties are of the really dumb and stupid variety. Those are the ones that really get My goat. And those are the ones that I'd like to hear Harbaugh say that he's instituting a fine or bench time for. I just want to hear him Publicly state that he's doing Something to try to fix it. And as for the booing that you're predicting, I just hope that the refs realize who the boos are being directed towards.

I think we're pushing it.  Trying so hard to win we're making stupid mistakes....  Yes.

[RavenManiac#7]

Did Doom throw 2 interceptions and fumble the ball on three straight possessions? Did Doom call a timeout instead of taking a delay of game penalty before the final punt? Did Doom drop a punt?

No to All your questions. And you're Absolutely right that there were other players and plays that contributed to this loss. What Doom did was to give the Jags an extra play, After the game was over, with No time on the clock, which they used to win the game. That's All that Doom did.

[757RavensFan]

No to All your questions. And you're Absolutely right that there were other players and plays that contributed to this loss. What Doom did was to give the Jags an extra play, After the game was over, with No time on the clock, which they used to win the game. That's All that Doom did.

 

Kendrick Lewis gave them 2 extra plays then by dropping an interception that my son playing middle school football would have caught. 

Edited November 16, 2015 by 757RavensFan

[mendii]

neg me all u want but the steelers are a team to admire. a tough and gritty team that will not quit. i hope they represent the afc than lose in the super bowl

No reason for this comment other than to twist the knife, after our most deflating loss of the season you want to come here and praise our biggest rival? Get out of here. 

[riseNConquer81]

well yeah you kinda of have to, you lost the game.

[Ravensfansince03]

And you call yourself a fan? Sure, I believe a win is less likely the further down this season, but I still think it possible. What kills us is the penalties. It's obvious the guys aren't all on the same page. I saw some people play lights out as well. I'm sorry that Doom was the only one playing on that snap and that he grabbed Bortles wrong and lost them the game. But he was also the only one who played. He had 2 sacks. Lardarius Webb played lights out. Juice is without an argument the most impressive fullback in the league. Kamar Aiken stepped up bigtime, he was better than I expected. Our TEs all made the effort. Will Hill had a penalty for late hit, but apart from that, he's brilliant. Those are only the guys who played well. Again, what broke our back is the penalties.

 

Of course Im a fan, not every fan has the same opinion and background though. Im a realistic type of fan. I understand the game, and have no problem calling things how I see it.

 

You have that fan mentality like the song "Don't stop, believing, hold on to that feelingaanng". And its nothing wrong with that. but we also needs fans like me. Its what maintains the balance and order.

Edited November 16, 2015 by Ravensfansince03

[MDguyCeCo]

Blame needs to be put on letting game remain so close....

Should never have been THAT close to put it on a single play....

Face it, the only thing consistent about our play this year.... is SLOP...

Dropped passes.... (Smith Sr?) Dropped picks....

Actually, starting to wonder about our conditioning....?

By God When Ray Lewis was around our team was in prime physical condition....

Nowadays..... PUP or IR....

[mettro79]

Kudos for Doom for manning up, but his one play was just one of many. The team as a whole let Jacksonville stay in that game. Things like this have been happening all season so this isn't really a surprise, but it doesn't make it any easier to watch.

[Ravensfansince03]

Kendrick Lewis gave them 2 extra plays then by dropping an interception that my son playing middle school football would have caught. 

 

Lol

[Crusader]

WOW SUGGS should make the 120 million. Without him Ravens can't beat their own shadow.

[Drew P]

A deficit of talent along with no leadership and wayward coaches are to blame Doom not just one play.

[EliteRavens]

There are so many things that contributed to this loss, not just Doom

[Ravenshine]

Some question Dooms play but isn't the reason he went for the sack to prevent a Hail Mary throw? So I understand why he did that, and the facemask was unfortunate, but ironically he maybe gave bortels and had wr Corp. more credit than they were due.

[Raven552]

 

Dumervil's mistake seems to get a lot more attention because it was the final bad play of the game but there were so many things that went wrong yet again. Failed catches, failed interceptions, going for it on 4th down early on when a field goal would have been useful, Lewis with his unnecessary roughness penalty, another ton of penalties from everybody else, bad play calling on offense, giving up big yards on 3rd downs, not running the ball anywhere near enough etc. Hopefully Dumervil knows he isn't the only who [profanity deleted]ed up at some point.

 

You've read my mind, too many mistakes, too many penalties. And I'd have said that even if we'd won.

[riseNConquer81]

Blame needs to be put on letting game remain so close.... Should never have been THAT close to put it on a single play.

why do people keep saying things like this as though there were some choice in the matter?

these are things you say about good teams.

This is not a good team.

Edited November 16, 2015 by riseNConquer81

[Dorota]

Of course Im a fan, not every fan has the same opinion and background though. Im a realistic type of fan. I understand the game, and have no problem calling things how I see it.

 

You have that fan mentality like the song "Don't stop, believing, hold on to that feelingaanng". And its nothing wrong with that. but we also needs fans like me. Its what maintains the balance and order.

You're the dark side of the force? I like it!

 

I'm not delusional, I can see some of the major things that need fixing and especially the penalties and turnovers drive me nuts, but I will still get passionate about a game, especially if it's a close one.

[Ravenshine]

Of course Im a fan, not every fan has the same opinion and background though. Im a realistic type of fan. I understand the game, and have no problem calling things how I see it.

 

You have that fan mentality like the song "Don't stop, believing, hold on to that feelingaanng". And its nothing wrong with that. but we also needs fans like me. Its what maintains the balance and order.

Fans like you are a plenty lol. It's the Fleetwood macs that are under represented here

[letitgosometimes]

Elvis: Okay, donate your paycheck this week. That is responsibility, not talk.

[Ravensfansince03]

You're the dark side of the force? I like it!

 

I'm not delusional, I can see some of the major things that need fixing and especially the penalties and turnovers drive me nuts, but I will still get passionate about a game, especially if it's a close one.

 

The dark side lol

[Ravensfansince03]

Fans like you are a plenty lol. It's the Fleetwood macs that are under represented here

 

You can go your own wayyy, go your own wayyyee lol love that song 

[bucketonuts]

Unfortunately, the Ravens organization has done terribly with their early round picks for the last seven years. I don't see this changing unless they change their scouting and coaching staff. They've tried to change this team into an aerial threat and have failed miserably with poor draft picks and allowing their seasoned veterans to leave because they can't afford to keep them (right Flacco?). They've populated the O line with marginal talent and have put a horrific D backfield together.

 

The high draft picks are not going to win Super bowls right out of school but they are supposed to develop and keep your team competitive. They haven't for the last seven years. They've stunk. This team now stinks because of it. It will take a lot more than just high draft picks to turn it around.