jboy19's First Round Mock

[jboy19]

1. Detroit Lions: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame

 

Stanley is an athletic tackle that excels most in pass protection. This fits what Detroit wants to do- Stafford throwing deep to Golden Tate and Calvin Johnson. It will be interesting to see what happens with Detroit once their new GM gets picked, but don't expect a huge splash from a rookie GM. 

 

2. San Diego Chargers: Jalen Ramsey, S, Florida State

 

I am operating under the assumption (as most others are) that Eric Weddle is not returning to San Diego after this season. It would be pretty shocking to see a defensive back go this high in the draft, Patrick Peterson was the highest drafted DB in recent memory, and I do not think anybody is putting Ramsey on his level athletically, but Weddle has been a part of San Diego's identity for the past 8 or so years and they will likely seek a presence similar to his. 

 

3. Cleveland Browns: Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State

 

If Bosa is available when the Browns are on the clock, I don't think he will be heading too far away from Columbus. It is no secret that Cleveland has not been happy with their pass rushers this offseason as there was talk of trading both Paul Kruger and Barkevious Mingo. Though Bosa's fit in a 3-4 defense has been debated, Bosa could be moved around enough as a 5-technique defensive end and nickel pass rusher. Either way the Browns improve their pass rush with a player that Ohioans are incredibly familiar with. 

 

4. Tennessee Titans: Laremy Tunsil, OT, Mississippi

 

The Titans will likely go best player available, and on my board, that is Laremy Tunsil. Tunsil is better in the run game than Ronnie Stanley, but lacks the footwork in pass protection that Stanley has. Ruston Webster has shown that he is willing to take the best player available even if that player has to work their way into the rotation (i.e. Taylor Lewan). Jeremy Poutasi is not an NFL tackle, and playing him as a starting right tackle is hurting Marcus Mariota's development. 

 

5. Baltimore Ravens: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida

 

The Ravens need help at corner, and Hargreaves is arguably the best player available at this pick. Though Hargreaves is not a large aggressive corner like the Ravens seem to prefer (Jimmy Smith, Cary Williams, Rashaan Melvin, Tray Walker, etc.), he plays above his 5-11 size, and has the play-making ability to help a defense on track to set an NFL record for the least amount of turnovers in a season. 

 

6. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame

 

Paul Posluszny is getting old and becoming a liability both in coverage and the running game. Jaylon Smith is an athletic linebacker, who will probably test extremely well at the combine. Though the Jaguars would definitely prefer Bosa or Hargreaves in the first round, they certainly would not hesitate to pick up a player who has been compared to Patrick Willis coming out. Smith could not only play in the middle taking Posluszny's spot, but with his pass-rushing proficiency could also occupy the "Otto" role currently held by Dan Skuta. 

 

7. Dallas Cowboys: Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Mississippi

 

I do not think Dallas is going to bite at a QB in the first round, despite numerous pundits thinking they will. I picture them entering a "win now" mode similar to Elway and the Broncos. I think Dallas is going to be picking later because I think their season picks up once Romo returns, but if they do find their way to this pick, Robert Nkemdiche's slide stops early. Dallas gains a defensive piece that can play a couple different positions along the defensive line that is strong on the edge and weak on the interior. 

 

8. San Francisco 49ers: Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis

 

San Francisco will have a new QB in 2016. Blaine Gabbert and Colin Kaepernick are not answers, and though Kaepernick will be playing elsewhere or on a new contract, Gabbert remains at best an average back up. Jared Goff is the hot name at QB, but like Teddy Bridgewater, he will likely fall due to his slight frame and lack of elite arm strength (Remember when Bortles got drafted over Bridgewater despite playing lesser competition, but having better measurables).

 

9. Houston Texans: Christian Hackenburg, QB, Penn State

 

You can complain at me for being uncreative by connecting the O’Brien/Penn State dots, but most scouts seem to be in agreeance that Hackenburg is an NFL quarterback, and if anybody is willing to take a chance on the kid it will be the coach that brought him to a sanctioned program only to abandon him a year later.

 

10. Miami Dolphins: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA

 

I do not think the injury to Myles Jack is going to affect his draft stock very much. Miami needs to keep building their defense with draft picks around Ndamukong Suh, and Jack is a versatile linebacker who can rush on blitzes as well as cover slot receivers. He is a complete package, and though he is slightly undersized (I think he will weigh in between 230 and 235), I think his athleticism and instincts are too much to pass on.

 

11. Chicago Bears: Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson

 

Mackensie Alexander is a prospect I think will rise the closer we get to the draft. Chicago has has struggles replacing Charles Tillman and Tim Jennings, but Kyle Fuller is a good building block and putting Alexander opposite of him will be a big step in rebuilding their defense. Alexander is a physical corner with the speed to hang with NFL receivers.

 

12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Laquon Treadwell, WR, Mississippi

 

Vincent Jackson is getting old, and when you have a young quarterback like Jameis Winston, you can never have too many weapons to give them. Treadwell is big physical receiver, who can win at the catch-point. Though he lacks the speed of Mike Evans, he is still a strong downfield receiver that will give NFC south defenses fits.

 

13. Washington Redskins: Jared Goff, QB, California

 

Goff is a sensible pick for a sensible GM. Washington still has some problems all over, but they won’t take a big step forward until they take a QB that they can build around. They need to cut loose Robert Griffin III and move forward. Goff’s stock has been falling as he has struggled against better defenses lately, but he is still a better prospect than Connor Cook.

 

14. Kansas City Chiefs: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU

 

Doctson is a good receiver who is a bigger receiver to complement the faster Jeremy Maclin. The Chiefs may or may not be able to rely on Jamal Charles, but their identity seems to be shifting to a passing offense with the likes of Jeremy Maclin and Travis Kelce. Doctson is a well-developed prospect that adds another dimension for an offense that only recently started throwing touchdowns to wide receivers.

 

15. New Orleans Saints: Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State

 

Chris Jones is an unfamiliar name at this point, but he is an athletic 6-6, 310 pound tackle. The Saints are a team that needs a corner, but there are not any corners at this point that are worth spending the 15th pick on. Jones will rise in the draft process and provides a solid piece upfront for a weak defense.

 

16. Oakland Raiders: Jayron Kearse, FS, Clemson

 

Jayron Kearse is a large safety with playmaking ability. Though he struggles with some of the mental aspects of the game, Oakland cannot rely on Charles Woodson being around much longer. The Oakland secondary has struggled, and has been playing corners (D.J. Hayden, T.J. Carrie) at the safety spot. Kearse may not develop into an elite player, but with a strong defensive front, he could make this a top-10 NFL defense.

 

17. St. Louis Rams: Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh

 

Surprise, Wes Welker will not (and should not) be around after this season. The Rams have lacked a receiver for a while and the receivers they do have seem to be more gadget-styled players (Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey). Tyler Boyd can on the outside complementing Kenny Britt or in the slot. He gives the Rams another weapon for Nick Foles, who may or may not be their QB of the future.

 

18. Philadelphia Eagles: Vadal Alexander, OG, LSU

 

The Eagles offensive line has been a mess, and until it improves, the Eagles are going nowhere. Vadal Alexander is currently the Right Tackle for LSU, but he was better playing Left Guard. Evan Mathis left and the Eagles are pushing their luck with an injury-prone Sam Bradford. Though Sam Bradford may be leaving after this year, whoever their QB is, they will need better protection. Alexander’s proficiency in the running game also can make Demarco Murray and Ryan Mathews a worthwhile investment.

 

19. Buffalo Bills: Taylor Decker, OT, Ohio State

 

Though this is a reach at this point, the Bills have a strong defense, and talent at the offensive skill positions. The line is probably the biggest liability to a team that has recently turned things around. Cyrus Kouandjio and Seantrel Henderson have not given confidence to the front office, and plugging a physical piece like Decker onto the right side of the offensive line instantly makes this team better.

 

20. Seattle Seahawks: Spencer Drango, OG, Baylor

 

Losing out on Alexander and Decker is a tough blow to a team that has sunk from two Super Bowl appearances mainly due to offensive line play. If Alexander and Decker are both gone at this point, I would expect the Seahawks to try to trade down. The next tier of lineman I see at this spot is Spencer Drango and Jack Conklin. I am putting Drango in this spot because the Seahawks are desperate for protection and I think that Drango is more versatile than Conklin.

 

21. Pittsburgh Steelers: Su’a Cravens, SS/LB, USC

 

Cravens is not Troy Polamalu, but he might be able to fill that void. Shamarko Thomas was not what the Steelers hoped that he could be. Cravens, in my opinion, projects best as a 4-3 WLB, but if the Steelers did a good job of putting him in the right position, I do not doubt that he could have success. This is a somewhat high pick for a box safety, but Pittsburgh is searching for the physical identity that they lost on defense and their recent top picks have failed to bring that back.

 

22. New York Jets: Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia

 

Jenkins plays as an outside linebacker in UGA’s 3-4 defense, and plays well against both the run and the pass. He has the agility and motor to consistently get into the backfield. The Jets haven’t had a great pass-rusher in a while and currently rolling with Calvin Pace and Quinton Coples hasn’t worked out extremely well for them. They have great down linemen, but an explosive edge rusher would create even more opportunities for Muhammad Wilkerson, Leonard Williams and Sheldon Richardson.

 

23. Atlanta Falcons: Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State

 

Roddy White is not happy in Atlanta, and even if he was, he is getting older and slower and is doing a worse job of complementing Julio Jones. Michael Thomas is a good route runner with decent speed, like Roddy White, and has more athleticism and upside at this point. The Falcons do not have tremendous needs, but a corner is also a possibility this year if one emerges.

 

24. Minnesota Vikings: Reggie Ragland, LB, Alabama

 

Minnesota has a solid piece in Eric Kendricks, but Chad Greenway is getting older. Reggie Ragland could take over the MLB spot allowing Eric Kendricks to move to the outside, where his athleticism would suit him well.

 

25. Indianapolis Colts: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State

 

I’m not convinced that spending top 15 picks on running backs has become normal again. The Colts can’t rely on Frank Gore much longer as his performance has been inconsistent this year. Though they have needs elsewhere, this is a franchise that has shown its willingness to invest in a (potentially) great running back. Elliott is the consensus best back currently.

 

26. New York Giants: DeForest Buckner, DL, Oregon

 

I am not exactly sure where Buckner would fit in the Giants defense, but my best guess would be that he could play strongside end on running downs and rush from the interior on passing downs. I am not as high on Buckner as a lot of other people are, but I still think he will end up going in the first round.

 

27. Arizona Cardinals: Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor

 

Though Andrew Billings plays at nose tackle for Baylor, I think he is athletic enough to play at the 3-technique spot that was vacated by Darnell Dockett last offseason. He is extremely athletic for his size and as a former powerlifting champion has the strength to make a difference against the run.

 

28. Green Bay Packers: Noah Spence, OLB, Eastern Kentucky

 

Spence was dismissed from Ohio State for drug use, but if he can prove to teams that he has those issues behind him, he could go in the first round. This would be a huge steal for the Packers because I think that Spence could end up being the best pure pass rusher in this class.

 

29. Denver Broncos: Austin Johnson, DT, Penn State

 

Sylvester Williams seems to be getting pushed around a lot playing nose tackle in Wade Phillip’s system. Austin Johnson has the size (6-4, 325) to play nose tackle more effectively than Williams, and allows Williams to play as a 3-4 end where he may have more success. There could be a tackle going here if Ryan Clady gets released in a cap move (which is possible because of his injury history).

 

30. Cincinnati Bengals: Kenny Clark, DT, UCLA

 

Kenny Clark is the best player available and comes at the perfect time for the Bengals, who have struggled with Domata Peko for a few years. Kenny Clark is great against the run and provides the perfect complement for Geno Atkins, who excels most as a pass rusher.

 

31. Carolina Panthers: Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State          

 

Ogbah’s stock has been falling recently, but I think the Panthers are going to take a pass rusher at this point rather than reaching for the next available offensive tackle. They might be saddled with Michael Oher for another year, but Ogbah gives them a presence on the edge to play opposite Charles Johnson (who is getting old) and eventually Kony Ealy. Jared Allen is not a long-term player.

 

32. New England Patriots: Pick Forfeited.

 

 

 

[Deflated Football]

I like it. I don't see any problem with VH3's size as he's nearly identical to Revis and Haden's stature. Dude has a legit chance at being a shutdown corner in the NFL and even though I'd still prefer Ramsey I would love to take VH3 if Ramsey was picked before us. Nice mock. 

[GrimCoconut]

Ramsey at #2 overall!? Over Joey Bosa?! I seriously question a lot of this list and I very much disagree but that's what makes this fun. You're not wrong or right. It's all opinion, but I think you're way off in many areas.

 

1. If it's the Lions at #1, they're going Tunsil, Nkemdiche, or Bosa IMO. Tunsil is a better fit for their OL than Stanley because they run more of a power man scheme than a ZBS. Bosa and Nkemdiche both provide that pass rush they somewhat lost with Suh. This pick depends mostly on the new HC. 
2. I don't see the Chargers taking Ramsey at #2. Talk about overreaction to our needs and conspiracies revolving around other teams taking guys we want to the extreme here. I see this pick as being between Stanley, Tunsil, Nkemdiche, or especially Bosa if he's there. Dunlap is extended for another three years, and they just extended Liuget, but they could use more pass rush and Bosa & Nkemdiche provide that. 
3. I see the Browns taking a LT here if they get a shot at one. Rumors abound regarding the future about Thomas and I could still see him traded come next year. As a result, LT would be a very likely position, or even a QB if they don't like Manziel and that looks likely. 
4. Titans are actually a team that COULD take a guy like Hargreaves or Ramsey, especially Ramsey where they have a need at FS with Griffin, who's pretty bad. They're also likely to go DL as well if Nkemdiche or Bosa are there. Their WRs aren't that impressive either, so I could see them take a WR here, too. 
5. Not commenting on Ravens.
6. This pick makes sense for the Jags, I suppose. I could see this go either way. They could even take another WR, or a OL. I wouldn't be surprised. It all depends on who's there. I could also see them take a DB like Ramsey or Hargreaves.
7. Cowboys could take a QB, although I think that's very unlikely since they're married to him due to the cap hit for cutting or trading him. I see them taking a WR because they're struggling without Dez and Romo, and while you can say they go defense, it's the offense that has struggled while the defense has been decent if not surprisingly good. 
8. Niners make sense to go for a QB. I'll agree with this. May even go LB if Smith or Jack is there and they like them enough. Secondary is also an option for this team, since they really struggle there. 
9. Texans definitely need a QB and may very likely take one or trade up to take one. They don't need any secondary player, although could take a FS since they're a little light there. They're set at CB. Could take a OL to replace Brown or to play LG next to him. 
10. Dolphins absolutely need an edge defender who can play the run or even a DL that can do this. Don't be surprised if they take a LB or a DL at this selection. They need someone. If Nkemdiche is there, he will be a Dolphin.

I won't go beyond this, but you get the idea.

[PurpleCity5]

I also agree, I think Tunsil makes more sense for Detroit, he's much more suited for their Man Blocking scheme since he plays with a bit more power and leverage than Stanley. 

 

I don't see Jalen Ramsey going that high, I had that same idea with him going #5 as well in my mock so I won't try to act as if I know something but I just believe that the prospects, Bosa, Nkemdiche, Stanley, Tunsil, and one of the QBs will be seen as elite talent. Ramsey at #2 is way too high and premier LT like Laremy Tunsil and Ronnie Stanley don't come around that often. San Diego is a team in need to two things, talent on the Offensive line, and depth on the offensive line. They need a premier LT more than a FS. I know they extended King Dunlap but Tunsil is just too good to pass up there. Shoot, I wouldn't even pass up on Tunsil/Stanley for Ramsey if I'm the Ravens. Maybe Weddle will be gone, but even on that note I heavily doubt San Diego is passing up on Tunsil, especially given how much it would help Rivers and Gordon immensely.

 

I agree with 3.

 

I think Nkemdiche will be a Titan as well if he's there, but I think there's a solid chance he goes #1, Lions miss Suh so badly. Their Defensive line continues to be a problem and Nkemdiche is a guy who can play as a 3-tech and be an absolute Beast there. 4-3 DT are immensely valuable to a 4-3 defense, if you have the chance the grab one then you take that opportunity. You can even look at the salaries of 4-3 rush tackles and you can get a good indication of how valued they are. I feel like Tennessee wouldn't hesitate to take Nkemdiche. 

 

I'm totally fine with the Hargreaves pick and I would be hyped if we got him. I just want a difference maker, I don't care if its at WR, CB, OLB, DE, DT, or LT. I want a game changer for us and I see Hargreaves as that guy. Also, we really need a CB. I tried downplaying it early on but I feel foolish for that now. We need a CB. 

 

8 and 9 makes plenty of sense.

 

I think there's a good possibility Cowboys can go with Smith or Jack 

[arnie_uk]

The draft never ever ever goes as expected. Make your mock based on the sensible pick. Then change it, that's what will happen

[JoeyFlex5]

ramsey isnt going 2nd overall, nkemdiche isnt going 7th, those are my only disagreements, otherwise very good mock. 

 

the thought of ogbah going 5 picks ahead of our 2nd rounder makes me queasy. hes one of my absolute favorite players in this draft and id take him as high as 20 depending on the talent available. 

 

just curious, who are you projecting for our 2nd rounder based on this? i think the top guy for consideration would be cameron sutton, germain ifedi, vonn bell, jalen mills, demarcus robinson, or carl nassib. 

 

also, i think nkemdiche might as well book a plane to tennessee if he is there when theyre on the clock. and if the chargers are picking 2nd, its gonna be between bosa and nkemdiche, i dont care how badly they wanna replace weddle theyre not passing on all that talent to do it.

[thieverycorporation]

I like it. I don't see any problem with VH3's size as he's nearly identical to Revis and Haden's stature. Dude has a legit chance at being a shutdown corner in the NFL and even though I'd still prefer Ramsey I would love to take VH3 if Ramsey was picked before us. Nice mock. 

If he plays like a Raven I'm all in. the tape suggest he has an elite skill set.

[Deflated Football]

If he plays like a Raven I'm all in. the tape suggest he has an elite skill set.

He does, on and off the field. High character kid. He's definitely near the top of my wish list for this years draft.

Edited November 11, 2015 by Deflated Football

[thieverycorporation]

He does, on and off the field. High character kid. He's definitely near the top of my wish list for this years draft.

I believe you and I watched his film. So I understand why. I wouldn't mine myself. I hope you get your wish DF. He reminds me of Honey badger in his methods. Enough said. Cause I was clamoring for him when he came out. Exciting football for us is what I miss. He would definitely provide a spark.

[usmccharles]

Colts need so much help, i dont see them going RB.  Defense or OL to me...but i liked the read

[jboy19]

I think most people are right that Number 2 is high for Jalen Ramsey. I just really think San Diego is a good fit for Ramsey and I do not think that San Diego ends up at 2. I'm pretty intrigued by Ramsey because he's like an opposite Terrence Brooks (Ramsey started at a nickel corner/safety role and got moved outside, while Brooks started outside and got moved to a nickel corner/safety role). I personally think Ramsey is best suited for a nickel corner/safety role in the NFL like a Tyrann Mathieu or Eric Weddle (or kinda like what the Ravens do with Matt Elam and Terrence Brooks when all the corners get injured). 

 

Most people are also right that 7 is a decently long fall for Nkemdiche. My personal thinking behind putting Tunsil at 4 is that if the Titans want to take the next step as a franchise, they need to do it behind Mariota, and they can't do that with Poutasi or Byron Bell playing right tackle. Byron Bell got cut for Michael Oher. I'm really interested in seeing what happens with Nkemdiche because he has the explosion and athleticism of an edge rusher with the body of a tackle. PurpleCity might be on to something linking him to Detroit, they could definitely use him, especially if Ngata walks. 

 

Thanks for all the feedback guys, I love that there's such a good draft community on here. I love getting called out on stuff. 

[jboy19]

ramsey isnt going 2nd overall, nkemdiche isnt going 7th, those are my only disagreements, otherwise very good mock. 

 

the thought of ogbah going 5 picks ahead of our 2nd rounder makes me queasy. hes one of my absolute favorite players in this draft and id take him as high as 20 depending on the talent available. 

 

just curious, who are you projecting for our 2nd rounder based on this? i think the top guy for consideration would be cameron sutton, germain ifedi, vonn bell, jalen mills, demarcus robinson, or carl nassib. 

 

also, i think nkemdiche might as well book a plane to tennessee if he is there when theyre on the clock. and if the chargers are picking 2nd, its gonna be between bosa and nkemdiche, i dont care how badly they wanna replace weddle theyre not passing on all that talent to do it.

 

Honestly I would love to have seen Ogbah fall to our 2nd pick, and if some Offensive Linemen rise in the draft I could see that happening. But on this I could seen Vonn Bell or even Corey Coleman (Baylor WR who has some Kendall Wright/Phillip Dorsett to his game). I don't see us going 1-2 on Corners though. I think Nassib is going to be there in the 3rd Round (Combine will probably hurt his stock) if we can't get a pass rusher sooner. I don't think we're spending higher than a 4th round pick on an OL unless we grab Stanley or Tunsil, because I think K.O. walks and Urschel takes over the LG spot, and I think everybody would be fine with that.

[GrimCoconut]

Honestly I would love to have seen Ogbah fall to our 2nd pick, and if some Offensive Linemen rise in the draft I could see that happening. But on this I could seen Vonn Bell or even Corey Coleman (Baylor WR who has some Kendall Wright/Phillip Dorsett to his game). I don't see us going 1-2 on Corners though. I think Nassib is going to be there in the 3rd Round (Combine will probably hurt his stock) if we can't get a pass rusher sooner. I don't think we're spending higher than a 4th round pick on an OL unless we grab Stanley or Tunsil, because I think K.O. walks and Urschel takes over the LG spot, and I think everybody would be fine with that.

I love Vonn Bell. That guy is very underrated around here. I'm not sure why nobody talks about him.

I really need to watch more of Coleman. I'll do that this weekend

[The Oakland Cathedral]

I love Vonn Bell. That guy is very underrated around here. I'm not sure why nobody talks about him.

I really need to watch more of Coleman. I'll do that this weekend

Isn't Vonn a projected SS? If he is like I seem to recall, that could be at least part of the reason since we seem to have that need filled and tend to talk mostly about our teams major needs around here.

[PurpleCity5]

Isn't Vonn a projected SS? If he is like I seem to recall, that could be at least part of the reason since we seem to have that need filled and tend to talk mostly about our teams major needs around here.

I think Bell can play FS. He has the speed, ball skills and instincts to do so. I agree with Grim, hes very underrated.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

I think Bell can play FS. He has the speed, ball skills and instincts to do so. I agree with Grim, hes very underrated.

I'm just speculating why people don't pay attention to him on here. I personally have no opinion on him as I have not watched his games at all.

[GrimCoconut]

Isn't Vonn a projected SS? If he is like I seem to recall, that could be at least part of the reason since we seem to have that need filled and tend to talk mostly about our teams major needs around here.

I haven't watched every game of his, but this guy isn't a strong safety from what I've seen. He's fast to break on the ball and he shows the speed and intelligence to play center field imo.

Edit: just did a quick Google because I know there's articles on him and this came up:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2015/11/62923/vonn-bell-two-way-star-i-tell-coach-smith-all-the-time-put-me-in-there-i-ll-run-a-route-for

Edited November 11, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[PurpleCity5]

I'm just speculating why people don't pay attention to him on here. I personally have no opinion on him as I have not watched his games at all.

Yeah I haven't talked about him much myself though I am impressed with him. I should def. bring up his name more often. I would really love to have him and Hargreaves rather than Ramsey and a 2nd round CB personally.

Edited November 11, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[JoeyFlex5]

Honestly I would love to have seen Ogbah fall to our 2nd pick, and if some Offensive Linemen rise in the draft I could see that happening. But on this I could seen Vonn Bell or even Corey Coleman (Baylor WR who has some Kendall Wright/Phillip Dorsett to his game). I don't see us going 1-2 on Corners though. I think Nassib is going to be there in the 3rd Round (Combine will probably hurt his stock) if we can't get a pass rusher sooner. I don't think we're spending higher than a 4th round pick on an OL unless we grab Stanley or Tunsil, because I think K.O. walks and Urschel takes over the LG spot, and I think everybody would be fine with that.

i think the combine will help nassib, his explosiveness is underrated for some reason and i think if he can convert some of his burst off the snap into raw numbers(which i think he will) then he will rocket up the boards. hes currently viewed as a 2nd and i could see him rise to the late first. 

 

also, ifedi is a prototype LT, not a guard, were looking to get depth for monroe until his contract runs out(because he'll probably spend at least half of his remaining years here on the sideline) and a guy who can take over in a few years, ifedi is a bit raw as he needs some work on his hands, but everything else about his game is starter material, a year of refinement and filling in for the inevitably injured monroe, i think, will eventually turn him into our long term answer at LT finally.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah I haven't talked about him much myself though I am impressed with him. I should def. bring up his name more often. I would really love to have him and Hargreaves rather than Ramsey and a 2nd round CB personally.

Man, that could be a deadly combo but I'm not sure about Bell in the second. Safeties are tough to gauge draft stock because you usually have one guy who's a standout while others drop.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

I haven't watched every game of his, but this guy isn't a strong safety from what I've seen. He's fast to break on the ball and he shows the speed and intelligence to play center field imo.

Edit: just did a quick Google because I know there's articles on him and this came up:

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2015/11/62923/vonn-bell-two-way-star-i-tell-coach-smith-all-the-time-put-me-in-there-i-ll-run-a-route-for

Interesting article. Might have to look into him in the near future.

[jboy19]

Jboy19's Mock Draft 2.0

 

1. Tennessee Titans: Laremy Tunsil, OT, Mississippi

 

Tennessee's top priority should be keeping Mariota protected, many may put a defensive guy here, but I don't think they would take Joey Bosa this high due to a lack of scheme fit and the fact that DE/LB is not a top priority with Derrick Morgan and Brian Orakpo both signed for the long term. 

 

2. Cleveland Browns: Joey Bosa, DE/OLB, Ohio State

 

Cleveland may trade down here because I think Farmer stays for a while. I'm not sure if a team would pass Baltimore to get a shot at Bosa because I'm not sure if Baltimore takes the shot at Bosa even if they get it. Bosa plays strong side backer in a base set and probably kicks in to 5-technique on passing downs for the Browns. There is always a ton of overhaul in the offseason for the Browns, if they end up with a 4-3 DC next (I just assume that the Seahawks DC gets hired away every offseason by default), this pick is easy. 

 

3. Baltimore Ravens: Jalen Ramsey, FS, Florida State

 

I think that this may be high for Ramsey personally, but Ramsey seems to be what the Ravens have been looking for and failed to find in recent drafts (a rangy safety that can play FS or SS or in the slot) with the likes of Matt Elam and Terrence Brooks. I do not think that Ramsey is a perimeter CB, but I think that Ramsey can play a role that needs filled. 

 

4. San Diego Chargers: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame

 

I personally think the 4 spot is a rough place to be in this draft because I think that once Tunsil, Bosa, and Ramsey are off the board, the pickings get more difficult. Hargreaves has size issues (may measure in at 5'9"), Nkemdiche has off-field stuff (whatever is going on with that, etc. I think Stanley ends up here, causing shift along the OL, I see San Diego's line looking like LT Stanley, LG Franklin, C Watt, RG Fluker, RT Dunlap if this is the pick. San Diego is going to have problems for a while, but with a solid OL, you build a good base for Rivers and his successor. 

 

5. Dallas Cowboys: Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Mississippi

 

Fills a big need and is a great value pick. Jerry can ignore off-field issues and I think there are going to be enough people in the war room to keep Jerry from overdrafting a QB.  I'm perfectly fine with this franchise becoming a joke, but if I were drafting I wouldn't think about this pick- Nkemdiche could play inside at DT or even as a strongside end depending on the down. Dallas should really work on putting a good defense into place if they want to give Romo a chance at a ring in the next couple seasons.

 

6. San Francisco 49ers: Jared Goff, QB, California

 

I could see Goff staying at Cal for his senior season, but if he leaves, I do not think he will get very far. The 49ers seem done with Kaepernick (at least as their starter). The team is still in shambles from their hellish offseason last year, and Goff seems like a QB that the franchise could build around.

 

7. Detroit Lions: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida

 

I feel like the Lions have always needed a CB. This time they get one. Even if Hargreaves measures in smaller than advertised, he plays above his size and gives the Lions a piece in their pass defense that they desperately need in facing Aaron Rodgers twice a year.

 

8. Miami Dolphins: Jaylon Smith, LB, Notre Dame

 

This is a good value pick and gives Miami's defense an solid piece. Smith could play in the middle or on the strongside in Miami's defense and would excel behind Miami's great defensive line.

 

9. Jacksonville Jaguars: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA

 

I think this is a good pick. Jack is athletic enough and a good enough pass rusher to play the Otto position currently occupied by Dan Skuta, or he could replace Paul Posluzsny in the middle if the Jags decide to move on. Jack is a great complement to the also-athletic Telvin Smith and could help take the Jacksonville defense to the next level.

 

10. Chicago Bears: DeForest Buckner, DL, Oregon

 

A lot of people are not big on Buckner, but I am. I see a player who needs development as a pass rusher but can already stand up against the run. I think playing at the 5-technique in the Chicago defense gives Buckner a chance to develop while making an initial impact where he already wins.

 

11. New Orleans Saints: Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson

 

Lawson gives the Saints defense another pass rusher to line up opposite of Cameron Jordan. Since Lawson is more of a pure pass rusher than Jordan, he gives the Saints DC (probably a new guy next season) the ability to move Jordan around more freely to exploit match ups.

 

12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson

 

A long, rangy corner that every team in the NFL could use right now. Mackensie plays very aggressively and even though he does not have great stats, he is still an impact player. Look for Alexander to rise closer to the draft.

 

13. New York Giants: Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State

 

Pass rushers are hard to find, so this pick is a reach, but the Giants haven't hesitated to reach in the past (Ereck Flowers). JPP likely will never be the same with his mashed up hand and isn't guaranteed to be in New York next season.

 

14. Oakland Raiders: Jayron Kearse, FS, Clemson

 

A developmental guy for sure, but Charles Woodson is not lasting forever. I could not think of a better mentor (if Woodson stays after this year).

 

15. Philadelphia Eagles: Taylor Decker, OL, Ohio State

 

An athletic tackle who could replace Jason Peters eventually. He is big, mean, and athletic enough for Chip Kelly's offense. It has been shown that the Eagles won't go anywhere with Allen Barbre and Matt Tobin at guard. The Eagles likely need to replace both, and there's no reason to think that either Decker, Peters, or Lane Johnson couldn't pull off a switch to guard.

 

16.  Buffalo Bills: Shon Coleman, OL, Auburn

 

No idea if Coleman will declare for the draft this year, but if he does, he is definitely a Round 1 guy. He is athletic and developmental, but has beat cancer before becoming the starting left tackle at Auburn. A high character guy who has huge upside. Seantrel Henderson and Cyrus Kouandjio have failed to seize the right tackle job at this point and likely never will. 

 

17. Indianapolis Colts: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State

 

Gasp- a RB taken before a WR- you're as surprised as I am, I think that its weird, but Elliott has shown a lot of potential and will probably have a good combine (which doesn't mean anything). Frank Gore is old and there is nobody behind his that inspires confidence. They need a young RB to help Luck out, not a cycle of Second Team All-Pros from 2005 (Gore, Bradshaw, Rinse, Repeat). This team should have a lot of options here because there are more over-aged employees that need replaced than on this team than in Congress.

 

18. St. Louis Rams: Laquon Treadwell, WR, Mississippi

 

Seems like I'm always mocking Treadwell to the Rams, and what's surprising to me is that I am not sure that there are any teams ahead of this pick that are desperate enough for a WR to bite. Treadwell is a good receiver who lacks speed to gain separation but makes up for it with strength at the catch point and route-running, like an Alshon Jeffery or Dez Bryant type.

 

19. Atlanta Falcons: Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor

 

Small but plays big. Need a complement to Julio Jones because Roddy White is old and nobody else has stepped up. Nobody even tries to argue that Matt Ryan is better than Joe Flacco anymore, Ryan might be broken, this pick helps us find that out. 

 

20. New York Jets: Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia

 

Athletic and developmental. Could play any of the linebacker positions in a 3-4.  

 

21. Minnesota Vikings: Su'a Cravens, WLB, USC

22. Seattle Seahawks: Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State

23. Kansas City Chiefs: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU

24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Jerald Hawkins, OT, LSU

25. Washington Redskins: Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State

26. Houston Texans: Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis

27. Green Bay Packers: Noah Spence, DE/OLB, Eastern Kentucky

28. Denver Broncos: Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana

29. Cincinnati Bengals: Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh

30. Arizona Cardinals: Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia

31. Carolina Panthers: Jeremy Cash, SS, Duke

[Cillmatic]

Why do you think Ramsey is rangy? He rarely played safety in college.

[BSHU_Miami]

Why do you think Ramsey is rangy? He rarely played safety in college.

rarely? I thought this was his first year at CB?

[JoeyFlex5]

rarely? I thought this was his first year at CB?

he makes all of his plays close to the line and his aggressiveness fails him in deep coverage. Hes more of a SS/attacker than a true coverage safety. He's actually very similar to will hill, better but similar

[Cillmatic]

rarely? I thought this was his first year at CB?

He rarely played more than 10 yards away from the LOS.

[GrimCoconut]

Honestly, Ramsey reminds me a lot of Eric Berry with a little bit more of an attitude.

Edited December 21, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[JoeyFlex5]

Honestly, Ramsey reminds me a lot of Eric Berry with a little bit more of an attitude.

ive always said dawkins but i can see that as well.

[ravensnation5220]

I saw both mocks and i could see both as a high probability, at least top 10. Even though a lot of people will disagree, but i think theres a high chance we pass on tunsil because of the domestic violence charge. If thats the case he wouldnt even be on our board. I feel the pick will be between hargreaves and ramsey baring the fact that bosa is gone. The only thing i have to say is; if we do decide between ramsey and vh3 and we pick ramsey, they shouldnt label him as a corner because if thats what they're looking for vh3 is the better pick but if they use ramsey properly and i think they can. He would be the better choice

[jboy19]

jboy19 Mock Draft 3.0

Round 1

1. Tennessee Titans: Laremy Tunsil, OT, Ole Miss
2. Cleveland Browns: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
3. San Diego Chargers: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame
4. Dallas Cowboys: Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
5. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jalen Ramsey, S, Florida State
6. Baltimore Ravens: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida
7. San Francisco 49ers: Laquon Treadwell, WR, Ole Miss
8. Miami Dolphins: Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
9. TB Buccaneers: Mackensie Alexander, CB, Clemson
10. New York Giants: DeForest Buckner, DE/DT, Oregon
11. Chicago Bears: Jaylon Smith, MLB, Notre Dame
12. New Orleans Saints: Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson
13. Philadelphia Eagles: Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
14. Oakland Raiders: Myles Jack, LB, UCLA
15. Los Angeles Rams: Corey Coleman, WR, Baylor
16. Detroit Lions: Tayor Decker, OT, Ohio State
17. Atlanta Falcons: Darron Lee, LB, Ohio State
18. Indianapolis Colts: Cody Whitehair, OG, Kansas State
19. Buffalo Bills: Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State
20. NY Jets: Leonard Floyd, OLB, Georgia
21. Washington Redskins: Reggie Ragland, MLB, Alabama
22. Houston Texans: Ezekiel Elliott, HB, Ohio State
23. Minnesota Vikings: Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State
24. Cincinnati Bengals: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
25. Pittsburgh Steelers: Eli Apple, CB, Ohio State
26. Seattle Seahawks: A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Alabama
27. Green Bay Packers: Noah Spence, OLB, Eastern Kentucky
28. Kansas City Chiefs: Sheldon Rankins, DT/DE, Louisville
29. Arizona Cardinals: Jarran Reed, DT/DE, Alabama
30. Denver Broncos: Jonathan Bullard, DE, Florida
31. Carolina Panthers: Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State

Edited February 2, 2016 by jboy19