Jacoby Jones released..

[Tru11]

no point in bringing back JJ.

 

we have givens on offense to play the role and givens is probably better and has more upside at this point.

 

also we have ross as a returner.

 

people really want both of those guys to loose snaps to JJ?

[January J]

If we bring him back in he might just catch fire. Being released by two teams in a short period of time may put that chip on his shoulder - and brining him in with our "mediocre" receiving corps will give him that big man on campus type vibe and his confidence may skyrocket. I think he was truly caught off guard when we released him, and now he's got something to prove. I just see way more pros that cons, and it wouldn't hurt to add an extra returner who we can throw back there when we're in desperate need for a big play or if Ross goes down with injury.

[January J]

no point in bringing back JJ.

we have givens on offense to play the role and givens is probably better and has more upside at this point.

also we have ross as a returner.

people really want both of those guys to loose snaps to JJ?

they don't have to lose snaps to jj...he can be used as a backup incase one goes down with an injury. And it never hurts to have more than one deep threat. Throw him out there only in 4 wr sets. If he catches fire and starts playing better than givens or ross then cool, may the best man win. We need boddddies- and there's not really many alternative options. Wes welkers a better possession receiver but he's on his last leg. Reggie Wayne maybe but he may not even want to come here if he didn't want to play for New England. Who else? I also would like to see us bring up Daniel brown and see what he could do- I just don't see them going that route. I wish they would though. Letting him and butler get into the mix would be my first choice..but we need somebody with vet experience bc without Steve basically our whole corps is 1 year udfas and journeymen receivers. Edited November 4, 2015 by January J

[Ravens2343]

If we bring him back in he might just catch fire. Being released by two teams in a short period of time may put that chip on his shoulder - and brining him in with our "mediocre" receiving corps will give him that big man on campus type vibe and his confidence may skyrocket. I think he was truly caught off guard when we released him, and now he's got something to prove. I just see way more pros that cons, and it wouldn't hurt to add an extra returner who we can throw back there when we're in desperate need for a big play or if Ross goes down with injury.

 

I loved Jacoby when he was with the Ravens and he made tons of huge plays for us, but I would be against signing him at this point.  He is only 31 but he looks pretty much done in the league and we need to allow our younger guys to get valuable reps.

 

I am thankful for everything Jones has done for the Ravens, especially during their super bowl run, but we are heading towards a youth movement and Jones shouldn't be a part of that.

[salamander]

If we bring him back in he might just catch fire. Being released by two teams in a short period of time may put that chip on his shoulder - and brining him in with our "mediocre" receiving corps will give him that big man on campus type vibe and his confidence may skyrocket. I think he was truly caught off guard when we released him, and now he's got something to prove. I just see way more pros that cons, and it wouldn't hurt to add an extra returner who we can throw back there when we're in desperate need for a big play or if Ross goes down with injury.

Well said. At this point of desperation, JJ may be a lower risk than another unknown WR. If Jacoby can come in for the minimum, it could possibly fire him up to do better. If not, I don't see a whole lot more risk than other WRs other teams have let go. True, JJ could be a back up deep threat but he is another option that may be worth risking during this "dropping like flies" season.

[The Mom Gene]

I still like Givens...  and bringing back Jacoby could do one of two things there...  Either it jacks up Chris (which I think it most likely would)...  or it takes just another shot from him as was done in St. Louis.  I just think the guy got a raw deal in St. Louis...  I'd like to see him have a shot at it here.  He was their burner until they drafted Tavon Austin... 

[HoldingCall]

If SSS was healthy and on the field I'd be all for Jacoby's return (not that I'm against it). Jacoby works well with experienced wrs in fooling the defense. He and Anquan, did this often when lined up on the same side of the field. I think he and SSS could have accomplished the same.

[Tru11]

they don't have to lose snaps to jj...he can be used as a backup incase one goes down with an injury. And it never hurts to have more than one deep threat. Throw him out there only in 4 wr sets. If he catches fire and starts playing better than givens or ross then cool, may the best man win. We need boddddies- and there's not really many alternative options. Wes welkers a better possession receiver but he's on his last leg. Reggie Wayne maybe but he may not even want to come here if he didn't want to play for New England. Who else? I also would like to see us bring up Daniel brown and see what he could do- I just don't see them going that route. I wish they would though. Letting him and butler get into the mix would be my first choice..but we need somebody with vet experience bc without Steve basically our whole corps is 1 year udfas and journeymen receivers.

 

we might as well go with daniel brown or other unproven guys hoping 1 turn out to be a diamond.

 

JJ brings nothing to the table we dont already have and i dont think he is improvement over the guys we have.

 

also rather run 2 TE 3 WR sets if we go 5 wide TBH or 2TE2WR sets.

can create a lot of mismatches that way.

 

If we want to add a veteran guy lets get 1 who can run routes and catch the ball.

JJ cant do either lol.

[CorvusCorax]

He did drop a lot of balls that came his way. Jacoby really went into a slump with the team in his last season here.

[ellicottraven]

We signed an ex- Saints player Joe Morgan it was reported. Seems to be on the cut and resign roller coaster with the Saints. So, let's hope he is not just a depth player but someone who can make plays.

[rmcjacket23]

Once again, fans are saying "well it couldn't hurt" instead of the things we should be saying like "here's how he helps".

 

If you can't name a realistic reason why he helps our team, then we shouldn't sign him.

[BmoreBird22]

If we bring him back in he might just catch fire. Being released by two teams in a short period of time may put that chip on his shoulder - and brining him in with our "mediocre" receiving corps will give him that big man on campus type vibe and his confidence may skyrocket. I think he was truly caught off guard when we released him, and now he's got something to prove. I just see way more pros that cons, and it wouldn't hurt to add an extra returner who we can throw back there when we're in desperate need for a big play or if Ross goes down with injury.

He didn't have anything to prove in San Diego?

[Purple_City39]

If we bring him back in he might just catch fire. Being released by two teams in a short period of time may put that chip on his shoulder - and brining him in with our "mediocre" receiving corps will give him that big man on campus type vibe and his confidence may skyrocket. I think he was truly caught off guard when we released him, and now he's got something to prove. I just see way more pros that cons, and it wouldn't hurt to add an extra returner who we can throw back there when we're in desperate need for a big play or if Ross goes down with injury.

Jacoby has a Ravens tattoo if I recall correctly.  If being cut by the Ravens even though it saved them almost nothing against the cap isn't motivating enough then nothing will be.

[usmccharles]

He didn't have anything to prove in San Diego?

and against us....

[BmoreBird22]

and against us....

All these narratives making excuses for Jacoby, a professional athlete, are kinda pitiful. If he was dealing with injuries it'd be one thing, but he wasn't motivated? Oh, okay

[FreckleNate]

I think Jacoby would actually give other teams somebody to worry about, no he isn't the best receiver but he is dangerous when he has the ball in hands and that is more than you can say for anybody else on this offense.

[FreckleNate]

I think Jacoby would actually give other teams somebody to worry about, no he isn't the best receiver but he is dangerous when he has the ball in hands and that is more than you can say for anybody else on this offense.

And I own his jersey and would love to be able to wear it again.

[Drew P]

His end around buddy Cam is long gone. He's useless.

[ravensdfan]

We signed an ex- Saints player Joe Morgan it was reported. Seems to be on the cut and resign roller coaster with the Saints. So, let's hope he is not just a depth player but someone who can make plays.

Exactly. And this guy is better than JJ how? He hasn't taken a meaningful snap since what? 2012?

[January J]

Once again, fans are saying "well it couldn't hurt" instead of the things we should be saying like "here's how he helps".

If you can't name a realistic reason why he helps our team, then we shouldn't sign him.

I can name about 3 or 4 reasons why, definitely can make a better case for him than joe Morgan.

1)potentially fills 2 needs, receiver / KR/PR- some may say this isn't a " need" persay.. But if Ross went down it certainly would be.

2) gives us another deep threat with big play ability

3) has familiarity with joe

4) cheap option

What does Joseph Morgan do that Jacoby can't?

Look I'm not one of those guys who is just hanging onto the past and is looking for some reunion bc I didn't want him to get cut in the first place. It made sense to cut him, now I think it makes sense to give him a look given our injury situation and need for bodies. We shouldn't NOT give him a look just bc he's been here before. given what our wr corps looked like Before the season we obviously didn't really need him- but now I think he could legitimately help our team.

Edited November 4, 2015 by January J

[January J]

Are we looking for a replacement for Steve or just a receiver period? That's the question. Would it make more sense to add a possession type receiver with what we currently have? I'm not so sure.

[January J]

What does Morgan bring that Jacoby doesn't? Nothing.

What does Jacoby bring that Morgan doesn't? Nothing.

So just pick the cheaper guy, which would undoubtedly be Morgan.

And this somehow warrants its own discussion topic?

I just named a few things that jacoby brings that Morgan doesn't...

And sure I don't see why not. ?

He has a history with us and the timing with us being In the market for a receiver and him being released is a legit reason for the idea to be entertained

Edited November 4, 2015 by January J

[ravensdfan]

Are we looking for a replacement for Steve or just a receiver period? That's the question. Would it make more sense to add a possession type receiver with what we currently have? I'm not so sure.

Well certainly not any upgrade to anything. Basically to a WR corps that includes a UDFA, a 7th yr journeyman, an injury prone 2nd year we added ...ready? Another UDFA that is also injury prone. Yay us!

[January J]

You just said a few comments back that Morgan actually isn't a punt returner. So that isn't the ONLY aspect I listed where Jacoby has benefit. Never hurts to have another returner on the team. I'm sure a lot of fans do feel that way, but as I just explained I'm not one of them. It made sense to cut him at the time, and it makes sense to give him a look now. We are in the market for a receiver due to the dire injury situation and the timing with him being released is a legit reason for the idea to be entertained. To be honest I'm not and never was a big fan of the guy, I liked him but he was a huge liability. Regardless it just makes sense.

[rmcjacket23]

you just said a few comments back that Morgan actually isn't a punt returner. So that isn't the ONLY aspect I listed where Jacoby has benefit. Never hurts to have another returner on the team. I'm sure a lot of fans do feel that way, but as I just explained I'm not one of them. It made sense to cut him at the time, and it makes sense to give him a look now. We are in the market for a receiver due to the dire injury situation and the timing with him being released is a legit reason for the idea to be entertained.

But he's a horrendous returner right now. Like literally one of the worst. We'd be better off probably giving 2-3 other guys a shot at returning kicks right now than Jacoby. I'd 100% put Webb out there to return punts before him, and practically anybody can return a kickoff these days, since it mostly requires taking a knee or running 15 yards and getting tackled.

 

He's available right now almost entirely because of how poor a kick returner he is right now. A team that just lost their best WR and doesn't have much depth behind him just cut depth at WR and their returner. That's the biggest red flag I've ever seen.

 

You're right... Morgan is not a kick returner. And I might give him a slight edge because of that. From a receiver standpoint, they're basically the same player.

[redrum52]

And I own his jersey and would love to be able to wear it again.

Waller now has his #

[K-Dog]

He was a beast return guy for a few seasons.

I would love to see him in the ROH, but I don't see that happening.

If it were to hang out and what have you I would love to see him back. He was super funny. His pressers were always great. As far as on field production,sorry JJ.

You will always be a fan favorite.

[TSizzle00]

People who leave the Ravens generally do not do well at all. Jones is simply another one of those people.

[GrimCoconut]

I can name about 3 or 4 reasons why, definitely can make a better case for him than joe Morgan.

1)potentially fills 2 needs, receiver / KR/PR- some may say this isn't a " need" persay.. But if Ross went down it certainly would be.

2) gives us another deep threat with big play ability

3) has familiarity with joe

4) cheap option

What does Joseph Morgan do that Jacoby can't?

Look I'm not one of those guys who is just hanging onto the past and is looking for some reunion bc I didn't want him to get cut in the first place. It made sense to cut him, now I think it makes sense to give him a look given our injury situation and need for bodies. We shouldn't NOT give him a look just bc he's been here before. given what our wr corps looked like Before the season we obviously didn't really need him- but now I think he could legitimately help our team.

1. He's made bad decisions at RS since last year.

2. I suppose he does but I don't think he's the deep threat he was. He's slowed down.

3. Is he really familiar? Just because he's caught balls here isn't really enough justification for him to be considered familiar with Joe imo.

4. He'll be cheap. Yep.

Edited November 4, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[Deflated Football]

People who leave the Ravens generally do not do well at all. Jones is simply another one of those people.

Good point. I've always wondered why that is, especially on defense.