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Jacoby Jones released..

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Can he be any worse than what we have?

Nope. Can't be any better either.

 

Do we want guys who can't be worse on this team or do we want guys that are better?

 

He's not an upgrade on our kicking game, and he's basically the exact same player as Chris Givens.

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Yes and sign Pollard and Rice also. Jones took less to stay with us, and this organization cut him after a slightly down year to save barely any money.

 

This kind of stuff, plus the horrible handling of Boldin really puts me off to this organization and football. Ozzie could have signed Roseanne after the Superbowl and the fans would have eaten it up.  

 

I can't wait until the NFL has fully garanteed contracts.

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Yes and sign Pollard and Rice also. Jones took less to stay with us, and this organization cut him a slightly down year to save barely any money.

 

This kind of stuff, plus the horrible handling of Boldin really puts me off to this organization and football. Ozzie could have signed Roseanne after the Superbowl and the fans would have eaten it up.  

 

I can't wait until the NFL has fully garanteed contracts.

And based on the fact that Jacoby was cut halfway through a contract that paid him even less, the Ravens appear to be fully vindicated in their decision.

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No

LMAO... I got a +1 and you're sitting at -1, with the same answer.

 

 

What sense does it make to bring him back?  Is it so fans can complain about how worthless he is, again?

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Sure why not? To echo others, I rather have him playing over Marlon. Jacoby has made some amazing plays here. Maybe he can save our season? ;)

Plus at the very least it's a familiar face.

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And based on the fact that Jacoby was cut halfway through a contract that paid him even less, the Ravens appear to be fully vindicated in their decision.

Exactly.  It's not like the Chargers didn't just have a WR go down for the season.  There's also the fact... THEY ARE ON PACE TO HAVE THE WORST PUNT RETURN AVG IN NFL HISTORY.

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Sure why not? To echo others, I rather have him playing over Marlon. Jacoby has made some amazing plays here. Maybe he can save our season? ;)

Plus at the very least it's a familiar face.

We already have a Jacoby. His name is Givens.

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I have no interest in bringing him back. He and Flacco are familiar I guess, but what's that even mean? It's not like they put up big numbers together. He's lost speed and I wouldn't hate him to come back but his decision making is terrible. I've been saying this since last year and only half the people here are willing to admit it. Sentiment doesn't win games.

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We already have a Jacoby. His name is Givens.

I'm just saying, what's the worst that could happen? Obviously it doesn't really matter and it won't effect how I feel about us at all. Would just be a small joy for this season to see a fan favorite come back and it would be amazing if he bounced back and made a couple impact plays for us. I feel he has more potential to do that than Brown.
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Fact is there's not many options- and were in need of bodies. The other available receivers aren't any better , and we have a rapport with Jacoby. His speed alone helps us stretch the field and opens up the playbook. Sure hes just like givens ...and that means what? You can't have 2 deep threats? He'd be a cheap 8 week rental. We need bodies. And if Ross goes down we are out of a KR and PR too. Not sure if I'd rather have Asa back there or not - he's just as much of a liability if not worse...I don't know...I certainly would entertain the idea. Hakeem nicks isn't bringing anything more to the table. Better hands maybe?

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Fact is there's not many options- and were in need of bodies. The other available receivers aren't any better , and we have a report with Jacoby. His speed alone helps us stretch the field and opens up the playbook. Sure hes just like givens ...and that means what? You can't have 2 deep threats? He'd be a cheap 8 week rental. We need bodies. And if Ross goes down we are out of a KR and PR too. Not sure if I'd rather have Asa back there or not - he's just as much of a liability if not worse...I don't know...I certainly would entertain the idea. Hakeem nicks isn't bringing anything more to the table. Better hands maybe?

 

 

Agreed. I certainly don't expect him to get us to the SB but without using the fountain of youth on a few key retired Ravens, is there anyone that could? On top of the other positives that have been stated, he is a fan favorite. It would be nice to see him run one or two back. Or even try.

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Jacoby dropped passes in 2014 because he knew his job was in jeopardy with Steve Smith in town. He was terrible as a returner because he was trying too hard to make something out of nothing and prove himself again. Give him the chance to join a short-staffed 2-6 team after getting cut and the pressure's off.

 

I wanted him gone at his salary last year but for minimum pay, given what we have, I would gladly welcome Jacoby back.

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This isn't 2012.

Givens and Ross have enough speed to stretch defenses, and Ross is a decent returner, so there really isn't a spot for Jacoby who's clearly lost a step anyway..

And I'd rather see what Daniel Brown can do, especially in the red zone. I bet he'd also make a decent gunner to replace Waller.

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I just think its pointless to bring in other guys, spend money when we have guys that everyone is curious to see how they will perform.  We cant develope the younger guys, or even evaluate them if they never see the field. 

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Sould we take Jacoby back? OF COURSE! We really need him, and SD didn't used his potential!

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Clearly Jacoby isn't a possession receiver. In fact, you never know if he's going to possess a ball that hits his hands.  And he's likely lost a step now, but he's still got moves to separate and he does know our system.  Bring him on board.  Ross is returning kicks right, but so can Jacoby.  He's got  a Raven tattoo.......bring him on.

Agreed. If we're bringing in another vet at the end of his playing time, let's bring back one who won't take long to get chemistry with Flacco.

 

Besides, JJ adds something to the return game as well.

 

 

In terms of hitting receivers in stride going deep, Joe was as good with Jacoby as anyone I've seen. Then again, Jacoby would still have to actually catch the ball. They dropped him the same day their number one goes to IR? Doesn't sound like he showed SD very much to inspire confidence.

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Clearly Jacoby isn't a possession receiver. In fact, you never know if he's going to possess a ball that hits his hands.  And he's likely lost a step now, but he's still got moves to separate and he does know our system.  Bring him on board.  Ross is returning kicks right, but so can Jacoby.  He's got  a Raven tattoo.......bring him on.

i demand a pic

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Not exactly...with "appear" being the operative word.  Granting Jacoby didn't contribute much last year, but the Raven's are 2-6 so it's not entirely accurate to say Raven decisions have been "vindicated", (poignant word choice), either with Jacoby or team wide.  We were in the lurch for a returner and haven't had a game swing our way on a kickoff return.

 

Jacoby Jones is a meteor, you don't see him often but when you do it can be spectacular and that can happen in any role, occasionally not for the best.

 

I believe what gets lost for some is that a team is a complex association of chemistry and variables, that goes far beyond one player or even one year.  Don't feel overwhelmed, because coaches often don't recognize it either.

 

Jacoby Jones won't change this season, but he would be a positive reacquisition.

 

Yes and sign Pollard and Rice also. Jones took less to stay with us, and this pathetic organization cut him after a slightly down year to save barely any money.

 

This kind of stuff, plus the horrible handling of Boldin really puts me off to this organization and football. Ozzie could have signed Roseanne after the Superbowl and the fans would have eaten it up.  

 

I can't wait until the NFL has fully garanteed contracts.

 

 

And based on the fact that Jacoby was cut halfway through a contract that paid him even less, the Ravens appear to be fully vindicated in their decision.

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Jacoby dropped passes in 2014 because he knew his job was in jeopardy with Steve Smith in town. He was terrible as a returner because he was trying too hard to make something out of nothing and prove himself again. Give him the chance to join a short-staffed 2-6 team after getting cut and the pressure's off.

 

I wanted him gone at his salary last year but for minimum pay, given what we have, I would gladly welcome Jacoby back.

So, what's his excuse in San Diego? Why was he the worst returner in the league and one of the worst decision makers?

In 2013, what was his excuse for all the body catching and lack of fight for the ball? Why wasn't he going to be used more extensively as a receiver with Allen going down?

And Steve Smith coming in didn't signal the end of his job. He only had to beat out Kamar Aiken (UDFA), Marlon Brown (UDFA), and Michael Campanaro (R, 7th Round, IR) for the third receiver job. If he had actually showed the same spark as a returner from 2012 (which he didn't in 2013) or any semblance of being a good third receiver, he'd have stayed. 

Steve Smith was just one receiver (the Ravens need three, and one was likely out of town at the end of the year). 

Fact of the matter is Jacoby just isn't any good anymore. I just don't see any point to bringing him back because the Ravens knew what they had in 2012-2014, and they'd now be getting a downgraded version. At least with someone like Nicks, he's 27 and still in his athletic prime and had shown at one point to be a really great receiver.

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So, what's his excuse in San Diego? Why was he the worst returner in the league and one of the worst decision makers?

In 2013, what was his excuse for all the body catching and lack of fight for the ball? Why wasn't he going to be used more extensively as a receiver with Allen going down?

And Steve Smith coming in didn't signal the end of his job. He only had to beat out Kamar Aiken (UDFA), Marlon Brown (UDFA), and Michael Campanaro (R, 7th Round, IR) for the third receiver job. If he had actually showed the same spark as a returner from 2012 (which he didn't in 2013) or any semblance of being a good third receiver, he'd have stayed. 

Steve Smith was just one receiver (the Ravens need three, and one was likely out of town at the end of the year). 

Fact of the matter is Jacoby just isn't any good anymore. I just don't see any point to bringing him back because the Ravens knew what they had in 2012-2014, and they'd now be getting a downgraded version. At least with someone like Nicks, he's 27 and still in his athletic prime and had shown at one point to be a really great receiver.

Last year Jacoby admitted that his drops were because of pressure. His decision-making for San Diego was questionable, but he was injured for a few games and they had no return yards without him either. Their coverage unit stinks.

 

His body-catching in 2013 is just because he's not that good. But who's expecting him to be? It's Jacoby or some practice squad guy.

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Last year Jacoby admitted that his drops were because of pressure. His decision-making for San Diego was questionable, but he was injured for a few games and they had no return yards without him either. Their coverage unit stinks.

His body-catching in 2013 is just because he's not that good. But who's expecting him to be? It's Jacoby or some practice squad guy.

He's always going to have someone fighting to take his job because he's not a Megatron or Dez. If his excuse is pressure, he'll be back in the same boat. It's a terrible reason that he should realize he was facing every single year in the NFL.

His decision making is still immensely questionable, even if their coverage unit sucks. That makes some of his decisions even worse

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