Where do we pick?

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

They would have to be a stud like Fournette, different league back then

And even then.

Different league and different teams. People would stack 8 in the box to stop Jamal. Granted I think that Fournette is a tad overrated but he does warrant a top 10 pock. If he was in the draft I could see him as a trade back candidate

[Winchester]

Good intel.....

Boulware was my fav ravens defensive player ever!! Could cover and do everything a traditional LB can as well as 15 sacks as a defensive end. Kalil Mack is a Boulware clone. Would of made a nice Raven!!

[RavensFanMania]

I do see Moseley and Jernigan as elite talents down in the near future.

 

I believe last years draft was a very good draft that may or may not come out with some very good playes, ie Perriman / Davis / Max / Z. Smith.  I'm not saying any of them are elite talents, but we will know that in a couple years. 

 

The 2014 draft was pretty darn good as well with Mosely and Jernigan in the first two rounds.  Loved Mosely and Jernigan in school and was psyched that we brought them into Baltimore. 

 

We are in the middle of a rebuilding phase.  The team is very young.  The next couple years should finish this phase.  The 2016 draft is extremely important.  I believe there is more talent to be had than people realize. 

[Cillmatic]

12/26 Bro.... After we lose to Pittsburgh and Cincinnati we will pick 5-10. I hope we pick a guy who is an iron man. We need a best reciever available, and corners....

Hindsight a 20/20 ain't it... Edited December 26, 2015 by Cillmatic

[stampedehero]

Boulware was my fav ravens defensive player ever!! Could cover and do everything a traditional LB can as well as 15 sacks as a defensive end. Kalil Mack is a Boulware clone. Would of made a nice Raven!!

Agreed Mack is one to behold  I was hoping the Raiders could have notched 3 more wins.  Boulware #58 Ring of honor. One of my favs too. They should show his work at TV timeouts for team inspiration.   

[RavensFanMania]

Agreed Mack is one to behold  I was hoping the Raiders could have notched 3 more wins.  Boulware #58 Ring of honor. One of my favs too. They should show his work at TV timeouts for team inspiration.   

Depending on who they would have beaten with those three wins it could have increased our SOS.

[JoeyFlex5]

We're gonna screw around and miss out on any chance of getting a blue chip player with our first pick

[Cillmatic]

We're gonna screw around and miss out on any chance of getting a blue chip player with our first pick

Yeah but... Sweeping the steelers may Be worth it. Edited December 27, 2015 by Cillmatic

[Inqui]

We're gonna screw around and miss out on any chance of getting a blue chip player with our first pick

One of the Bears and Lions has to win next week, as does one of the Jags or Saints (and hopefully the other one wins next week). If we win here and lose to Cincy next week, I still can't see us picking at worse than 8.

Dropping four slots to sweep the Steelers (with everyone asking for us to trade back anyway)? I can live with that.

[January J]

Yeah but... Sweeping the steelers may Be worth it.

totally. And with the jets winning , knocking them out of the playoffs would be the icing on the cake.

[usmccharles]

If your a real Ravens fan there is no way you don't want to win this game regardless of anything else. Sick of the "tank" mindset... Especially if we sweep the steelers and are the reason they kiss the playoffs... Get real people

[JoeyFlex5]

If your a real Ravens fan there is no way you don't want to win this game regardless of anything else. Sick of the "tank" mindset... Especially if we sweep the steelers and are the reason they kiss the playoffs... Get real people

I'm a real fan, have been since the boller days, I want us to lose out without purposely tanking. So you get real.

[Sizzlebshu]

So where does this put us

[GrimCoconut]

Feels good to sweep the Steelers lol.

[Inqui]

For those of you wondering how sweeping the Steelers shakes up the draft, here's a provisional look at the top 15. The usual caveats of SOS being subject to change and not every team having played apply:

1. Tennessee Titans: 3-12 (.487 strength of schedule) 
2. Cleveland Browns: 3-12 (.536 SOS) 
3. San Diego Chargers: 4-11 (.518 SOS - 3-7 in conference, 0-4 in division) 
4. Dallas Cowboys: 4-11 (.540 SOS) 
5. San Francisco 49ers: 4-11 (.549 SOS) 
6. Jacksonville Jaguars: 5-9 (.464 SOS)** 
7. Miami Dolphins: 5-10 (.473 SOS) 
8. New Orleans Saints: 5-9 (.513 SOS)** 
9. Baltimore Ravens: 5-10 (.518 SOS - 3-7 in conference, 2-2 in division)

10. Detroit Lions: 6-9 (.531 SOS) 
11. Chicago Bears: 6-9 (.540 SOS) 
12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 6-9 (.478 SOS) 
13. New York Giants: 6-8 (.496 SOS)** 
14. Indianapolis Colts: 7-8 (.504 SOS) 
15. Oakland Raiders: 7-8 (.509 SOS) 
16. Philadelphia Eagles: 6-9 (.513 SOS) 

 

The Bears and Lions getting wins is a big deal, and one of the Saints or Jags will get behind us in the draft order. I'm kinda hoping the Jags win here as the Saints are more likely to beat the Falcons next week than the Jags are to beat the Texans imo.

[Deflated Football]

I'll take the sweep!!!

[usmccharles]

I'm a real fan, have been since the boller days, I want us to lose out without purposely tanking. So you get real.

well I'll enjoy this win while your miserable.. My day sounds way better.

[Inqui]

So where does this put us

Atm we're at 9, but we'll be at 8 come the end of the day. The 9ers, Cowboys and Dolphins all seem to have packed it in a while ago so I'm not counting on either of those guys to do us a favour next week.

[usmccharles]

Atm we're at 9, but we'll be at 8 come the end of the day. The 9ers, Cowboys and Dolphins all seem to have packed it in a while ago so I'm not counting on either of those guys to do us a favour next week.

maybe taking ogbah is worth the value now?

[Inqui]

Feels good to sweep the Steelers lol.

I'd have been content either way, but no complaints here about sweeping the Steelers. That probably puts the two OTs out of reach, but VH3 or Ramsey should still be in the discussion.

[Inqui]

maybe taking ogbah is worth the value now?

Maybe it's just the tape I've seen, but I haven't been as blown away by Ogbah as some folks here. His game against Ole Miss and Laremy Tunsil should answer a fair few questions.

[GrimCoconut]

I'd have been content either way, but no complaints here about sweeping the Steelers. That probably puts the two OTs out of reach, but VH3 or Ramsey should still be in the discussion.

I disagree. I think the two LT are still an option and think Hargreaves and Ramsey are still options, too. It may put us out of reach for Bosa, though.

[ravefan52]

Down to 9 wow that was a big drop

[JoeyFlex5]

well I'll enjoy this win while your miserable.. My day sounds way better.

im not miserable at all. It was fun to end the steelers playoff hopes, just because I preferred another option doesn't mean I'm gonna be miserable. To say anyone who disagrees with you is not a real fan is ridiculous and you can keep that to yourself, which was my point.

[GrimCoconut]

Maybe it's just the tape I've seen, but I haven't been as blown away by Ogbah as some folks here. His game against Ole Miss and Laremy Tunsil should answer a fair few questions.

I like Ngakoue better, personally, at this point.

[Clmraven]

Well if we're picking around 8-11 now, I wouldn't mind Buckner so long as he doesn't shoot up boards like I think he could.

[JoeyFlex5]

Treadwell becomes a real value option now, if Stanley falls that is immense value. Also Myles Jack and jaylon Smith become real options. Less pressure actually makes this look not so bad

[Inqui]

I disagree. I think the two LT are still an option and think Hargreaves and Ramsey are still options, too. It may put us out of reach for Bosa, though.

You reckon? It's not an amazing class by any stretch and I'd say both Tunsil and Stanley could have gone top five in any other recent draft class (maybe not 2014, but Jake Matthews went at 6). It's good that a couple of the teams we've fallen behind (49ers, Cowboys) probably won't be interested in a LT, but it wouldn't surprise me if the Chargers took Tunsil and Stanley went to Miami or Jville (the Jags have recently gone on an annoying run of drafting guys I like....). Hell, even the Browns might be interested if they can flog off Joe Thomas for whatever asking price they have at the time.

 

Obviously it's too early to say for sure, but that's how I see it atm.

 

One other point, while I'm looking at the draft order, is that the Browns and Steelers losing single-handedly puts four more losses on our SOS column, which might prove useful when the dust starts to settle.

[Raven'evermore]

  What a conundrum to have, wanting the higher pick or beating the Steelers.  Have to admit, feels really good to win.  Hadn't felt this good on a Sunday for awhile now, but is it worth it dropping down in the draft.  Yes, especially beating Pittsburgh.  Just have to trust Ozzie to do his best.

[usmccharles]

im not miserable at all. It was fun to end the steelers playoff hopes, just because I preferred another option doesn't mean I'm gonna be miserable. To say anyone who disagrees with you is not a real fan is ridiculous and you can keep that to yourself, which was my point.

ah I got ya man. Sorry, took it the wrong way. I'll never understand the lose for better draft pick mentality, but your statement about the steelers is all I need. So, my apologies and carry on