Where do we pick?

[RavensFanMania]

I think the Ravens could easily end up in the 10-15 range now that they have two straight homes games and then three straight home games.

I never thought the Ravens were as bad as 1-6 would lead you to believe, but they had a rough stretch.

Honestly, if they land at about 10, they better be taking Boyd or Doctson. Joe will then have "two" rookies for Joe to grow with

Not sure if it would be a wise choice to pick another WR in the first round.  I guess we will no more when and if Perriman gets on the field this year.  It's also a bit too soon to know who will be available at that point.  This draft has a decent amount of top talent available, from WR to S to CB to DE/LB to LT, it's well diversified. 

[BmoreBird22]

Not sure if it would be a wise choice to pick another WR in the first round. I guess we will no more when and if Perriman gets on the field this year. It's also a bit too soon to know who will be available at that point. This draft has a decent amount of top talent available, from WR to S to CB to DE/LB to LT, it's well diversified.

Past the top ten, with Bosa, Stanley, Nkemdiche, Tunsil, Hargreaves, and Ramsey probably all going within those picks, wide receiver would probably be BPA with Treadwell, Doctson, and Boyd all likely on the board

[edthehead]

spending our first high pick in 8 years on a rb will be a blown draft, period. taking elliott with this first round pick would be an absolute failure, i dont care if he is the next barry sanders, it will be a horrible pick. not to mention elliott isnt even THAT good, hes extremely overrated if he is projected in the 10-15 range

listen,, i would like a WR, we need impact players, we need players on offense first..  flacco can not do it by himself,,our rb now stays hurt . I like forsett but we do need a big body , i am not saying we need elliott , but we need that game changer who will be in the first round. WR,RB idk  who it is  

Edited November 2, 2015 by edthehead

[Wildabeast88]

Since we just won this game we a 2-6. The average maximum wins for top 5 picks is 4 wins. Since we're playing the Jaguars next game we'll likely be 3-6, close to losing our top 5 position and losing out on the only real good players of this draft. Because of this I figured we'd speculate. Where do you see us drafting?

Blake Bortles has looked good and we made McCown and Carr look like Brady and Manning so I am not counting on anything just my opinion

[atomicfront]

We don't need "pretty good" in the first round. Especially in a position as easy as RB. First round should be for drafting players that are needed.

 

No first round should be drafting for talent.  If we have the chance to get a future hall of famer at a position we take that player.  

[Baltimore RAYvens]

Bortles has been playing well and shown that he can either be a star or a dud. 

You never know which Rams team you're going to get, but with Gurley in the mix full time they look dangerous.

The Browns have already beaten us a home, now we go into Cleveland.

The Dolphins have looked like a new team with their coaching change.

The Sea Chickens are starting to get on track.

The Chiefs have had success with the quick west coast offense in previous seasons.

The Steelers should have Rothlisberger for this game.

The Bengals look legit this year and seem to have had our number.

 

The KC game is the only one that I'm confident that we'll win, but I was also sure we'd beat the Browns and would at least be 4-4 right now. I think top is a lock since no team (outside of 2010) with 6 wins has picked outside the top ten in the last 5 years, and I wouldn't call top 5 outside the realm of possibility. 

[Wildabeast88]

RB's just aren't worth first round picks to me. We have actual needs that need to be filled like WR, pass rusher and secondary.

We need pass rush but Elliot is better than Gurley as an Ohio St fan the dude is amazing but winning extra games takes us out of the pass rusher DB so I Elliot is good with me

[rmw10]

We need pass rush but Elliot is better than Gurley as an Ohio St fan the dude is amazing but winning extra games takes us out of the pass rusher DB so I Elliot is good with me

So, no bias here I'm assuming...

[Wildabeast88]

So, no bias here I'm assuming...

all I'm saying is if you watch the games/tape he has an amazing talent. He consistently shreds defenses even the great Alabama last year he has amazing vision burst can make you miss or run through you. He can catch the ball I think he is a complete stud. However I would rather get an elite pass rusher because we have zero pass rush which hurts our secondary as well because its hard to cover for a long period of time without forcing bad throws mistakes. Edited November 2, 2015 by Wildabeast88

[JoeyFlex5]

listen,, i would like a WR, we need impact players, we need players on offense first..  flacco can not do it by himself,,our rb now stays hurt . I like forsett but we do need a big body , i am not saying we need elliott , but we need that game changer who will be in the first round. WR,RB idk  who it is  

but elliott will be a step in the wrong direction of righting this ship, a MASSIVE step. and im not clamoring for a WR, if we have a top 5 pick then we would be shooting ourselves in the foot by taking a wr in the first round, im hesitant to even say this draft has a top 10 talent at wr. 

 

also, LT is not "our RB" if youre referring to LT as "the guy", and if youre asking for a big body at RB, look no further than buck allen, have you not seen how violent he runs? he did it in college, and hes doing it now, our OL has been so inconsistent this year that you cant really fault any RB's, but when allen has had a legitimate chance to get upfield, he has impressed as a big bruiser. 

 

spending a first on elliott, when looking at some of the holes on this team, would be the absolute dumbest move we could realistically make this year, considering were likely picking top 10, we are looking at gaping holes everywhere except for DT, TE, and... just guess... RB. we dont need to draft another RB who follows gaps that the OL cant even make for him, we need speed and playmaking on defense, a consistently high performing LT and interior lineman, an intelligent FS, a cover corner, a speed rusher, a wide receiver who can be counted on to get open and to make the tough catches, hell we need just about everything except for zeke elliott in this draft, not only are these much more crippling and dire needs, but some of the players at these positions are much better values. the list of edge defenders, OL, DBs, and WRs id take in this draft OVER elliott is near endless, there are 2nd round edge rushers and 3rd round wr's id take over elliott in a heartbeat.

[JoeyFlex5]

We need pass rush but Elliot is better than Gurley as an Ohio St fan the dude is amazing but winning extra games takes us out of the pass rusher DB so I Elliot is good with me

lol, elliott is not better than gurley.

[JoeyFlex5]

Past the top ten, with Bosa, Stanley, Nkemdiche, Tunsil, Hargreaves, and Ramsey probably all going within those picks, wide receiver would probably be BPA with Treadwell, Doctson, and Boyd all likely on the board

if we magically end up outside of the top 10 or if we trade to the teens, id be fully on board for doctson, assuming treadwell and boyd are gone. 

 

honestly though im not sure id take boyd over doctson, hes really grown on me.

[Cillmatic]

Let's draft a in the first round RG while we're at it, or another kicker. Or a NT, who cares about Brandon Williams?

Edited November 2, 2015 by Cillmatic

[JoeyFlex5]

Let's draft a in the first round RG while we're at it, or another kicker. Or a NT, who cares about Brandon Williams?

we should trade harbaugh, flacco, and our next 2 first round picks to move up to #1 and take goff, getting flacco and harbaugh the hell outta here is our only chance!

[Cillmatic]

we should trade harbaugh, flacco, and our next 2 first round picks to move up to #1 and take goff, getting flacco and harbaugh the hell outta here is our only chance!

All of those are better ideas than drafting Eziekel Elliot in the top of the first round.

[52520Andrew]

We need pass rush but Elliot is better than Gurley as an Ohio St fan the dude is amazing but winning extra games takes us out of the pass rusher DB so I Elliot is good with me

 

Yeah put Gurley in that offense and he would have ran all over Alabama as well. I do like Elliott but it is much easier to look good when teams are dealing with Cardale Jones without much footage of him.

[GrimCoconut]

Most people know I like Gordon a lot but I didn't like the idea of taking him in the first last year. I thought Gurley deserved it but I wasn't sure about his health.

I think only an AP or Jamal Lewis type of RB deserves to be a first round pick. I don't see that in any RB this year. I'll be furious if we spend a first round pick on any RB this year.

Edited November 3, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[PurpleCity5]

Most people know I like Gordon a lot but I didn't like the idea of taking him in the first last year. I thought Gurley deserved it but I wasn't sure about his health.

I think only an AP or Jamal Lewis type of RB deserves to be a first round pick. I don't see that in any RB this year. I'll be furious if we spend a first round pick on any RB this year.

I don't think Elliot is deemed a first, the only way I would be fine with a first round RB is if Leonard Fournette magically was eligible for 2016.

[JoeyFlex5]

I don't think Elliot is deemed a first, the only way I would be fine with a first round RB is if Leonard Fournette magically was eligible for 2016.

ive seen elliott in the first round in many mock drafts this year actually. 

 

although its well known that the "draft gurus" and real gm's dont exactly see eye to eye

[Inqui]

ive seen elliott in the first round in many mock drafts this year actually. 

 

although its well known that the "draft gurus" and real gm's dont exactly see eye to eye

Can't remember where, but I saw one guy mock us Elliott at 10.

 

I wouldn't mind taking him, but if we took him in the top 10 I think I'd go and become a Steelers fan.

[JoeyFlex5]

Can't remember where, but I saw one guy mock us Elliott at 10.

 

I wouldn't mind taking him, but if we took him in the top 10 I think I'd go and become a Steelers fan.

i have never called for ozzies head, i have questioned him, but i never once have suggested he needs to be fired... 

 

if we took eliott anywhere in the first round, then i would have to change that lol

[PurpleCity5]

ive seen elliott in the first round in many mock drafts this year actually. 

 

although its well known that the "draft gurus" and real gm's dont exactly see eye to eye

Mock drafts this early in the year tend to be off compared to draft day. I personally wouldn't consider him a lock at this point. I mean the 2013 draft had some solid RBs, some could argue that Carlos Hyde and Jeremy Hill should have been first round picks. I think Matt Miller said this and it was something I agree with, five years ago, Jeremy Hill likely would have been a top 10 pick. I don't think Elliot is going into the top 15, I'd say he could go into the 21-32 range, but I wouldn't consider him a lock at all. In fact, if we selected him in the top 10, I would go mad. 

[Wildabeast88]

lol, elliott is not better than gurley.

Elliott 470 rushes for 3270 yards 33TDs 7.0 average 54 catches 405 yards 1TD Gley 510 carries 3285 yards 36TDs average 6.4 per carry65 catches 615 yards 6TDs just saying SEC bias always its much closer than you think

[Wildabeast88]

Yeah put Gurley in that offense and he would have ran all over Alabama as well. I do like Elliott but it is much easier to look good when teams are dealing with Cardale Jones without much footage of him.

Gurley vs Alabama 23 carries for 122 2TDs Elliott 20 for 230 2TDs

[Wildabeast88]

Mock drafts this early in the year tend to be off compared to draft day. I personally wouldn't consider him a lock at this point. I mean the 2013 draft had some solid RBs, some could argue that Carlos Hyde and Jeremy Hill should have been first round picks. I think Matt Miller said this and it was something I agree with, five years ago, Jeremy Hill likely would have been a top 10 pick. I don't think Elliot is going into the top 15, I'd say he could go into the 21-32 range, but I wouldn't consider him a lock at all. In fact, if we selected him in the top 10, I would go mad.

I m playing devils advocate but I would not be mad if we got Elliott but we need pass rushers bad if we slide to much they will be gone

[52520Andrew]

Gurley vs Alabama 23 carries for 122 2TDs Elliott 20 for 230 2TDs

So what? Alex Smith threw for more yards on the Denver defense than Rodgers, guess he is a better QB.

[Inqui]

Elliott 470 rushes for 3270 yards 33TDs 7.0 average 54 catches 405 yards 1TD Gley 510 carries 3285 yards 36TDs average 6.4 per carry65 catches 615 yards 6TDs just saying SEC bias always its much closer than you think

College production means about as much as BSPN's QBR stat. Elliott has a much better supporting cast top to bottom than Gurley did, and are influenced by stuff like the coach wanting to limit Gurley's carries (to keep him intact for the draft or keep him playing for the whole season), OSU's defence meaning they can spend more time running the clock down or 50 different factors that don't have any bearing on their pro careers.

[Wildabeast88]

College production means about as much as BSPN's QBR stat. Elliott has a much better supporting cast top to bottom than Gurley did, and are influenced by stuff like the coach wanting to limit Gurley's carries (to keep him intact for the draft or keep him playing for the whole season), OSU's defence meaning they can spend more time running the clock down or 50 different factors that don't have any bearing on their pro careers.

I thought he SEC was the greatest thing ever plus last year Ohio St was playing with a 2nd and 3rd string QB all I'm saying is people were focused on stopping him and couldn't I still want a pass rusher but Elliott is a great player and I get college means nothing in the NFL but I'm just saying he can play

[Inqui]

I thought he SEC was the greatest thing ever plus last year Ohio St was playing with a 2nd and 3rd string QB all I'm saying is people were focused on stopping him and couldn't I still want a pass rusher but Elliott is a great player and I get college means nothing in the NFL but I'm just saying he can play

I don't have a college team so I'm not caught up in that SEC bias stuff (though how would it be any different to your OSU bias?). Elliott's a good player, just not the first-round talent Gurley was. And tbh, his production isn't going to convince me that he is in that tier of franchise-changing guys who can walk into any team and make them a dominant rushing side on his own. It just means he's a good player with a great OL and dynamic group of QBs.

[BmoreBird22]

if we magically end up outside of the top 10 or if we trade to the teens, id be fully on board for doctson, assuming treadwell and boyd are gone.

honestly though im not sure id take boyd over doctson, hes really grown on me.

Going to Tech, I've seen quite a bit of Boyd. He ALWAYS gives Tech fits, even though Tech is routinely ranked in the top 5 defenses.

He's just so silky smooth as a route runner, he's got good size, and he can attack the ball. Not as physical as Treadwell, but far more of a technician