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Winchester, man, you have to say it with me... Tunsil is a top3 pick, more likely top2, we would need the titans and chargers to finish with more wins than us to get him and that's not happening

I know but ravens have a shot at a top3 pick. Browns may go qb :)

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I know but ravens have a shot at a top3 pick. Browns may go qb :)

the browns front office hasn't given up on manziel yet, and even if they do take a qb, that leaves probably the titans and chargers, tunsil would almost certainly be the top player on both of their boards. The ravens only real shot at tunsil would be at 2nd overall, even 3rd looks slim, the only team In the top 3 who likely aren't targeting tunsil looks to be Cleveland
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the browns front office hasn't given up on manziel yet, and even if they do take a qb, that leaves probably the titans and chargers, tunsil would almost certainly be the top player on both of their boards. The ravens only real shot at tunsil would be at 2nd overall, even 3rd looks slim, the only team In the top 3 who likely aren't targeting tunsil looks to be Cleveland

Titans just drafted a left tackle. Titans need to stay out of our business and find another player!! And chargers, why can't the bum Rivers win a damn game!!

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Titans just drafted a left tackle. Titans need to stay out of our business and find another player!! And chargers, why can't the bum Rivers win a damn game!!

because he cant throw from his back, therefore they target tunsil. and the titans are absolutely loaded on the edge, so bosa looks like he wouldnt be an option, and they have a very mobile qb and only 1 tackle, and this would create great competition for them, i dont see them passing on tunsil either.

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because he cant throw from his back, therefore they target tunsil. and the titans are absolutely loaded on the edge, so bosa looks like he wouldnt be an option, and they have a very mobile qb and only 1 tackle, and this would create great competition for them, i dont see them passing on tunsil either.

Titans hopefully may but I do not see the chargers not drafting him. If ravens retained KO and drafted Tunsil does everybody realize the Oline across the board has a shot at pro bowl or all pro if Wagner reasserts himself?? I really believe Urschel with his physicality,intelligence,work ethic will be a top3 center. He is working on a tae kwan do black belt for more flexible hips and ankles as well. And kempo for hand usage. And is determined to get stronger and stronger because he says the more powerful and explosive he is the more he can move people with ease. The dude is going to be a top3 center by week17!! Not many centers offer his kind of physicality and move opposing players off the ball!! With the ravens young promising runners and dual threat TEs the ravens will be a receiver like Boyd,Doctson or Williams away from the most potent balanced offense in the NFL!! Once Maxx gets in shape he will be a move seam threat TE and command attention of a WR!! Then add a Boyd or Doctson to the 2 TE set with that formidable Oline and buck that can catch like a receiver will be tough run or throw!! If ravens run the ball there will be 2 TEs that can block lineman or LBs. If ravens throw there will be 2 TEs that can beat Safety's or LBs and one of them being Maxx who will run like a big WR once in better shape. Once leaner stronger and more explosive, Maxx will run a 4.55-4.63 play speed. I just do not see any team in the league that could stop the ravens offense!! A formidable Oline,Dual threat elite runners,TEs that can run catch block and a big play receiver like Boyd,Williams or Doctson. Trestman could really mix up run and throw play calling!! Very similar to cowboy/ broncos championship offenses with more diversity with the 2TE sets.
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I think everyone here would be happy with Tunsil, completely irrespective of whether he's their clear #1 or someone else is.

The point I think you're missing is that if your big board is just Tunsil, then that's a recipe for leaving yourself high and dry. If we're picking at 6, you have to account for the very high chance that he simply won't be there. That's why everyone's talking about other guys as well.

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Titans hopefully may but I do not see the chargers not drafting him. If ravens retained KO and drafted Tunsil does everybody realize the Oline across the board has a shot at pro bowl or all pro if Wagner reasserts himself?? I really believe Urschel with his physicality,intelligence,work ethic will be a top3 center. He is working on a tae kwan do black belt for more flexible hips and ankles as well. And kempo for hand usage. And is determined to get stronger and stronger because he says the more powerful and explosive he is the more he can move people with ease. The dude is going to be a top3 center by week17!! Not many centers offer his kind of physicality and move opposing players off the ball!! With the ravens young promising runners and dual threat TEs the ravens will be a receiver like Boyd,Doctson or Williams away from the most potent balanced offense in the NFL!! Once Maxx gets in shape he will be a move seam threat TE and command attention of a WR!! Then add a Boyd or Doctson to the 2 TE set with that formidable Oline and buck that can catch like a receiver will be tough run or throw!! If ravens run the ball there will be 2 TEs that can block lineman or LBs. If ravens throw there will be 2 TEs that can beat Safety's or LBs and one of them being Maxx who will run like a big WR once in better shape. Once leaner stronger and more explosive, Maxx will run a 4.55-4.63 play speed. I just do not see any team in the league that could stop the ravens offense!! A formidable Oline,Dual threat elite runners,TEs that can run catch block and a big play receiver like Boyd,Williams or Doctson. Trestman could really mix up run and throw play calling!! Very similar to cowboy/ broncos championship offenses with more diversity with the 2TE sets.

I think that's enough purple drink for one day

 

Also you're becoming a broken record with your shouting "draft Tunsil" in every thread. Give it a rest. 

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I think that's enough purple drink for one day

 

Also you're becoming a broken record with your shouting "draft Tunsil" in every thread. Give it a rest.

Lmao, Tunsil is a candidate to be the best left tackle in the NFL. He is the one player that will blend and add to with what the ravens already have going and complete the offensive identity and formidable OLine. In round 2 the best WR available completes the offense. I do not drink kool aid. Everybody here knows nobody is rougher on maxx or any player. But when ravens have something special I usually always notice before most others. And Buck Allen is special!! And I have to acknowledge however maxx runs well for a guy who needs to get in shape. And once he does he will be an elite TE with play speed of 4.55-4.65 while stronger and more explosive. Look at baby fat Williams in the avatar. How much stronger and more explosive will he be after losing the flab and putting on functional muscle?? Which is his goal during the offseason. He is a competitive blocker as well. Gilmore is an elite blocker and good receiver. Buck Allen has talent similar to Matt Forte. TW has skills very similar to Carlos Hyde or Michael Turner. Ravens are set at running back. I never liked LT or Brown at Running back. But Buck and TW are studs!! A receiver in round2 completes the weapons. If ravens keep KO and draft Tunsil the Oline will be quite formidable. Tunsil,KO,Yanda and Urschel are powerful and physical and can punch opponents In the mouth and wear down opponents while controlling the ball. Is there anything not very realistic?? Ravens could very realistically score the most points of any team. And Buck Allen could reach 2000 all purpose yards.

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I think everyone here would be happy with Tunsil, completely irrespective of whether he's their clear #1 or someone else is.

The point I think you're missing is that if your big board is just Tunsil, then that's a recipe for leaving yourself high and dry. If we're picking at 6, you have to account for the very high chance that he simply won't be there. That's why everyone's talking about other guys as well.

OK, other players. once the ravens draft Tunsil in round1, a receiver like Boyd,Williams or Doctson could be picked up early round2.

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OK, other players. once the ravens draft Tunsil in round1, a receiver like Boyd,Williams or Doctson could be picked up early round2.

Let me rephrase:

Goodell announces that the draft will be held tomorrow. As things stand, there is no way Tunsil makes it to us at 6. If he falls past SD alone I'll put a picture of Barbie up as my new avatar and I'll turn my posts pink for a week (quote me if that ever happens). Who do you want the Ravens to take in the first if he's gone before we pick?

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Let me rephrase:

Goodell announces that the draft will be held tomorrow. As things stand, there is no way Tunsil makes it to us at 6. If he falls past SD alone I'll put a picture of Barbie up as my new avatar and I'll turn my posts pink for a week (quote me if that ever happens). Who do you want the Ravens to take in the first if he's gone before we pick?

Then ravens trade up for Tunsil. Better yet I will have my gf and her cousin talk to him in a bar then go file charges that he did something bad. So he will drop in the draft.lol. In all seriousness I have considered other optionsoptions and players and trade downs but iam not really sure. It is just that Tunsil in Round1 and Boyd,Williams or Doctson in round2 would so complete this dominant ball control yet explosive offense!! If we do not land Tunsil iam not sure yet which direction to draft. Not really a good year with to many golden master key players. Even Bosa has things to prove before being considered #1overall skills. If ravens dont land Tunsil, I dunno, It is a long draft process and iam not sure at this point.

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I think Nkemdiche is due for a big rise.

Definitely. Been watching a lot more of him, and his speed and athleticism is just freaky for a DT.
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Let me rephrase:

Goodell announces that the draft will be held tomorrow. As things stand, there is no way Tunsil makes it to us at 6. If he falls past SD alone I'll put a picture of Barbie up as my new avatar and I'll turn my posts pink for a week (quote me if that ever happens). Who do you want the Ravens to take in the first if he's gone before we pick?

A barbie avatar is not a bad thing!!lol

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Let me rephrase:

Goodell announces that the draft will be held tomorrow. As things stand, there is no way Tunsil makes it to us at 6. If he falls past SD alone I'll put a picture of Barbie up as my new avatar and I'll turn my posts pink for a week (quote me if that ever happens). Who do you want the Ravens to take in the first if he's gone before we pick?

 

pretty sure we are picking top 5..

cant see how we end up with 6. we aint winning a game and dallas jacksonville and the titans have far better chances. heck the browns could beat SF..

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pretty sure we are picking top 5..

cant see how we end up with 6. we aint winning a game and dallas jacksonville and the titans have far better chances. heck the browns could beat SF..

You're right that we'd be picking at 5, I'd forgotten Dallas won yesterday.

But the point remains that Tunsil isn't making it that far. SD need OL help in the worst way and put a high pick into Melvin Gordon last year. Cleveland could decide to take him if they manage to trade Thomas away. Tennessee are a wild card but are still a strong possibility. And Jacksonville might decide to cut their losses with Joeckel and get Bortles some better protection.

I honestly think Bosa has a better chance of falling. And when people have us taking anyone other than Tunsil, it's almost certainly because they don't think he'll be there and not because they don't like him.

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pretty sure we are picking top 5..

cant see how we end up with 6. we aint winning a game and dallas jacksonville and the titans have far better chances. heck the browns could beat SF..

If our SOS improves (aka, if the teams we play win more) then we will lose tiebreakers vs other 4-win teams.

 

Right now we have about a .500 SOS, which is decent, but it is rising every week it seems (used to be .480 a few weeks ago)

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Let me rephrase:

Goodell announces that the draft will be held tomorrow. As things stand, there is no way Tunsil makes it to us at 6. If he falls past SD alone I'll put a picture of Barbie up as my new avatar and I'll turn my posts pink for a week (quote me if that ever happens). Who do you want the Ravens to take in the first if he's gone before we pick?

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If our SOS improves (aka, if the teams we play win more) then we will lose tiebreakers vs other 4-win teams.

Right now we have about a .500 SOS, which is decent, but it is rising every week it seems (used to be .480 a few weeks ago)

It'll keep rising in the last four weeks, since every team we face from here has a winning record.
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Go nuts, though I reserve the right go back out if Tunsil gets caught up in a murder investigation or something outrageous and unforeseen like that. :P
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Definitely. Been watching a lot more of him, and his speed and athleticism is just freaky for a DT.

It only takes one team to fall in love with him. If he can back up his tape at the combine(an event Im not big on myself) then I think he can vault back into the top 5 convo. To be honest it wouldn't be a bad pick for us either.

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Go nuts, though I reserve the right go back out if Tunsil gets caught up in a murder investigation or something outrageous and unforeseen like that. :P

If Tunsil does get charged with harassing a girl then this thread needs to be deleted!!lol

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I think Nkemdiche is due for a big rise. 

 

I don't know if it'd be a rise necessarily.  I think a ton of people already think he'll go top 5 or somewhere in that area.  There are some things I don't like about him but that explosion off the snap is insane.  He's one of those few raw, physical specimen types that I like.

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I don't know if it'd be a rise necessarily. I think a ton of people already think he'll go top 5 or somewhere in that area. There are some things I don't like about him but that explosion off the snap is insane. He's one of those few raw, physical specimen types that I like.

I haven't seen him in a lot of top 5s, but then again what an analyst believes doesn't equate to what a team believes. I think a team like Tennesse who needs inside help would be willing to take him. I personally feel you can't rule out Bosa at No.4, I actually think he can reach us at 4. Im much less optimstic about Tunsil.

But back to Nkem, I wouldn't be upset if we picked him. He has LOADS of upside and if he can tap into it he'll be a monster for us.

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I haven't seen him in a lot of top 5s, but then again what an analyst believes doesn't equate to what a team believes. I think a team like Tennesse who needs inside help would be willing to take him. I personally feel you can't rule out Bosa at No.4, I actually think he can reach us at 4. Im much less optimstic about Tunsil.

But back to Nkem, I wouldn't be upset if we picked him. He has LOADS of upside and if he can tap into it he'll be a monster for us.

One of the reasons I'd love for the Ravens to take him is because we seem to specialize in getting the best out of linemen. Letting coach Brooks get the chance to mold someone with Nkem's abilities would be amazing.

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I see Nkemdiche kind of cut from the same cloth as Suh, he will be a dominate player, worthy of a top 5 selection.. but there will be baggage. 

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I see Nkemdiche kind of cut from the same cloth as Suh, he will be a dominate player, worthy of a top 5 selection.. but there will be baggage. 

 

I hope the FO can see through that and not just hit BPA but see the whole picture.

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I see Nkemdiche kind of cut from the same cloth as Suh, he will be a dominate player, worthy of a top 5 selection.. but there will be baggage. 

I really know nothing about this guy and his baggage ... it is a really fine line between a guy with an attitude and a disciplinary problem player. 

 

We need a guy like Lewis, Suggs in terms of absolute swagger - chip on their shoulder type guy, but who doesn't cross over the line like Suh and goes and does stupid stuff. Players with attitude are going to get you 15 yard penalties here and there, but it is going to be for border line late hits or hits that come out of the target area. They can't be for stuff like trying to stomp on somebody's ankle and hope it goes unnoticed. 

 

We have enough quiet performers on this team (Mosely, Doom, Williams ...) we need someone who the rest of the team will look up to and ultimately have to answer to if they aren't doing what they are supposed to be doing. If there is a guy like that in this draft ... I want him. 

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I really know nothing about this guy and his baggage ... it is a really fine line between a guy with an attitude and a disciplinary problem player.

We need a guy like Lewis, Suggs in terms of absolute swagger - chip on their shoulder type guy, but who doesn't cross over the line like Suh and goes and does stupid stuff. Players with attitude are going to get you 15 yard penalties here and there, but it is going to be for border line late hits or hits that come out of the target area. They can't be for stuff like trying to stomp on somebody's ankle and hope it goes unnoticed.

We have enough quiet performers on this team (Mosely, Doom, Williams ...) we need someone who the rest of the team will look up to and ultimately have to answer to if they aren't doing what they are supposed to be doing. If there is a guy like that in this draft ... I want him.

Couldn't agree more. We need a grown man on this defense. Someone ready to metaphorically punch you in the face, take your lunch money, and then eat your first born while stealing away your girl. This defense really misses that bully.
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Couldn't agree more. We need a grown man on this defense. Someone ready to metaphorically punch you in the face, take your lunch money, and then eat your first born while stealing away your girl. This defense really misses that bully.

sadly I think Ramsey is the only one like that, and he scares me
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