Next up: Jacksonville Jaguars ( home Nov 15)

[BmoreBird22]

Is Brent Urban expected to make this debut?

Will he be eligible? I thought it was the week after

[Guest]

The good news is that we have a Home Bye to prepare for them.  All of our schemers and Front Office cerebrals will have plenty of time to take advantage of one of the leagues perennial losers, the hapless Jacksonville Jaguars.

 

The bad news is that all those years of mediocrity have enabled the Jaguars to begin to assemble some quality players.  If anyone has noticed Blake Bortles has suddenly become a 300 yard passer.  Add to that growing skill his innate ability to scramble for yards.

 

To make matters worse, the Jaguars have a trio of receivers that is rapidly ascending.  Allen Robinson, Allen Hurns and Julius Thomas, with Thomas currently being the most shaky due to a new system and missed time with an injury.

 

The Jaguars have some defenders as well in Poslunzey and another linebacker I can't recall. Isn't this the team that has the Safety we could have had too?

 

I like the Jaguars, in fact I have two of them on my Fantasy Team. This is a Home Game for us. It's a game we must win, but candidly even with all the circumstances in our favor, I believe the Jaguars are gonna rock our world. The first nail in the coffin hammered securely in.

 

Sorry all, I think they are up and coming.

 

 

the panthers only held on bc of a Andrew luck interception that doinked right off a receiver straight into the hands of keichly. And that's another reason why we haven't been pulling out these close games- the ball simply hasn't been bouncing our way. Believe it or not luck does play a small part in football. And we've been on the wrong end of way too many fluke plays.

 

 

I'm right there with you. I care about winning playoff games and the Superb Owl.

 

I also would once again love to win the Superb Owl!

I see a 9-7 run, possibly 10-6 if Cincy has a Bye wrapped up by then. The only thing that goes against that is if Patriots don't have the one seed locked up and Bengals are playing in week 17 with a shot at the one seed.

 

 

this will b a tough game, closer than u think.

Edited November 6, 2015 by Danny D

[RavensPunkXVX]

Nobody can predict our games lol. We could win out, lose out, or go 50-50. The Ravens are consistently competitive and have been in every single game, with an opportunity to win. It's just as realistic to say they'll win out as to say they'll lose out.

Maybe less likely now without SSS, but you never know.

[ta2d1]

We win this, go 3 and 6

[bravensfan52]

I wouldn't be able to show my face if the jags win the ridicule would be way to much

Edited November 8, 2015 by bravensfan52

[Raven'evermore]

The Ravens played probably their best game of the year vs Arizona, especially on D. The games against the Steelers and Bengals don't count because they're division games and are usually close regardless of talent gap. And the Chargers team we barely beat at home was bad even before they were wiped clean due to injury.

 

It's cool that some fans are eternal optimists but there's no way anyone can reasonably think this team is going 10-6 or even 9-7, or heck even 8-8, at this point. We have zero pass rush, a completely clueless secondary, and WRs who'd be lucky to be on other teams' practice squads. Literally our kicker is our best offensive weapon, followed by an inconsistent QB who's playing behind a banged-up OL. And probably our two most vocal leaders on offense and defense are out for the season.

 

Don't get me wrong. If I had a choice for the Ravens to go 10-6 or 9-7 and make the playoffs vs going 2-14, I'd take the playoffs every time. But the far more likely scenario with what we have is that we'd go 6-10, which just stinks all around. I'd rather go 2-14 than 6-10, not only for the draft but for next year's scheduling, too. Being practical doesn't make anyone less of a fan.

 

 

  I agree that being practical doesn't make you less of a fan, but then again being optimistic doesn't make a person necessarily less practical if they can give a decent reason for their optimism.  1: We might finally have a speedster in Givens who can stretch the field pulling the opposing secondary off the line of scrimmage.  2: Perriman may be returning in a few weeks (hopefully less) which would give us even more of a weapon down field.  3:  Urban is back. (finally). 4: (Wishful thinking?) Suggs may return?  5:  If you look at the standings, not many teams in the AFC have that good of a record especially the AFC south and there's still half the season to go yet.  A lot can happen.  Wild card?  6: Flacco.  7: I've said this before; I think having SSS out will actually help.  These younger guys need to step up and I believe that they will now that they get more opportunities.  8:  Rothlessburger is out hurt.  At this point who knows how long.  Sorry; I know that sounds terrible but it's football and it may or may not make a difference in helping us get closer to a wild card berth. The only serious down side I see is Pees' system.  Not saying that we even make it to the playoffs or even finish with a winning season.  Just not ready to be less than optimistic. 

Edited November 8, 2015 by Raven'evermore

[BmoreSports09]

I agree that being practical doesn't make you less of a fan, but then again being optimistic doesn't make a person necessarily less practical if they can give a decent reason for their optimism. 1: We might finally have a speedster in Givens who can stretch the field pulling the opposing secondary off the line of scrimmage. 2: Perriman may be returning in a few weeks (hopefully less) which would give us even more of a weapon down field. 3: Urban is back. (finally). 4: (Wishful thinking?) Suggs may return? 5: If you look at the standings, not many teams in the AFC have that good of a record especially the AFC south and there's still half the season to go yet. A lot can happen. Wild card? 6: Flacco. 7: I've said this before; I think having SSS out will actually help. These younger guys need to step up and I believe that they will now that they get more opportunities. 8: Rothlessburger is out hurt. At this point who knows how long. Sorry; I know that sounds terrible but it's football and it may or may not make a difference in helping us get closer to a wild card berth. The only serious down side I see is Pees' system. Not saying that we even make it to the playoffs or even finish with a winning season. Just not ready to be less than optimistic.

One correction... Suggs is not returning. He's on season ending IR, so he is ineligible to return.

[Raven'evermore]

One correction... Suggs is not returning. He's on season ending IR, so he is ineligible to return.

 

  I thought I remember Dr. Harbaugh suggesting he might return.  Oh well, like I said, wishful thinking.

[Militant X 1]

Is this game the run to 10-6? We can hope!

 

10-6?  Really?  IF, you see the Ravens getting past the Seahawks, Chiefs, Steelers and the Bengals in their last four games?

 

And to be honest, that's not looking past the Jaguars who fought hard today against the Jets, or the Rams with Gurley running wild and definitely not looking past the Browns...who came from behind 21-9 at one point...on the road in Baltimore to finish off the Ravens but will no doubt after that win....be playing with tremendous confidence that they can beat the Ravens in Cleveland.

[omar586]

these JAGS ain't no joke, boy.

[Moderator 3]

I thought I remember Dr. Harbaugh suggesting he might return.  Oh well, like I said, wishful thinking.

I think that was for next year. There was speculation that Suggs would retire.

[Purple_City39]

10-6?  Really?  IF, you see the Ravens getting past the Seahawks, Chiefs, Steelers and the Bengals in their last four games?

 

And to be honest, that's not looking past the Jaguars who fought hard today against the Jets, or the Rams with Gurley running wild and definitely not looking past the Browns...who came from behind 21-9 at one point...on the road in Baltimore to finish off the Ravens but will no doubt after that win....be playing with tremendous confidence that they can beat the Ravens in Cleveland.

I get that this team is bad right now but I don't get why people still have this whole "we have no chance against certain teams" mentality.  If we were getting blown out weekly I'd understand, but we've been in every game at the end and simply haven't finished games.  This includes games against top teams like Cincy, Arizona, and Denver.

 

For all we know, they used the bye week to fix the inability to finish games and we start winning close games instead of losing them.  No, I don't think we go 8-0 or 7-1.  But after how we've played, I don't see a team we simply don't stand a chance against.

[Raven'evermore]

I think that was for next year. There was speculation that Suggs would retire.

 

 Okay, thanks.

[RaineV1]

The Jags kinda remind me of where the Ravens are at right now. A bad team that's just a couple players away from being a real threat.

[Militant X 1]

I get that this team is bad right now but I don't get why people still have this whole "we have no chance against certain teams" mentality.  If we were getting blown out weekly I'd understand, but we've been in every game at the end and simply haven't finished games.  This includes games against top teams like Cincy, Arizona, and Denver.

 

For all we know, they used the bye week to fix the inability to finish games and we start winning close games instead of losing them.  No, I don't think we go 8-0 or 7-1.  But after how we've played, I don't see a team we simply don't stand a chance against.

 

So, after watching 8 weeks of game tape, film etc., on these Ravens this season you still don't "get it?"  Really?  Wow!

 

To me; it's not about that whole; "we're not getting blown out or we've been in every game" statement PC.  To me; there are multiple REASONS (i.e. injuries, lack of execution, talent, coaching etc.) for that man!  Of course, we all know that bad teams find ways to lose and good teams find ways to win.  With our Ravens; there are multiple factors that contribute to their inability to finish, close out or win these games...regardless of who their opponents might be!

 

I for one, am not so quick to just dismiss 8 weeks of mediocre and piss poor game play from them to now think that these Ravens will all of a sudden flip on some magical switch and just start playing like world beaters!  I don't see that residing in the heart of this present Ravens team!  I just don't!  I probably won't UNTIL they show me that week in and week out and they only have 8 games left to do so.

 

We shall see!

[beanfigger]

Of course, we all know that bad teams find ways to lose and good teams find ways to win.

That was a very passionate post, and you're entitled to your opinion, which is based in reality and not flawed in any way.

I just wanted to pick this one quote you made out to say that all of our opponents for the next seven weeks have "found a way to lose" a minimum of four games themselves, which is about half or more of their contests thus far. The Ravens aren't the only team in control of the outcome of their games, so why is it so hard to believe that any of teams playing against us, a team who only plays games that end within one score, might "find a way to lose" against us?

[Purple_City39]

So, after watching 8 weeks of game tape, film etc., on these Ravens this season you still don't "get it?"  Really?  Wow!

 

To me; it's not about that whole; "we're not getting blown out or we've been in every game" statement PC.  To me; there are multiple REASONS (i.e. injuries, lack of execution, talent, coaching etc.) for that man!  Of course, we all know that bad teams find ways to lose and good teams find ways to win.  With our Ravens; there are multiple factors that contribute to their inability to finish, close out or win these games...regardless of who their opponents might be!

 

I for one, am not so quick to just dismiss 8 weeks of mediocre and piss poor game play from them to now think that these Ravens will all of a sudden flip on some magical switch and just start playing like world beaters!  I don't see that residing in the heart of this present Ravens team!  I just don't!  I probably won't UNTIL they show me that week in and week out and they only have 8 games left to do so.

 

We shall see!

Oh I get it, feel free to comprehend what's being said.  With 9 weeks of lack of execution, talent, coaching, and injuries, we've still been in games until the end against some of the best the NFL has to offer right now.

With these backups, not executing and being coached poorly, they were still in position to beat almost every team they faced in regulation except the Cardinals.  Imagine if the coaches call better plays, the players learn to tackle and/or just commit less penalties, or even simply catch INTs?  

 

Sorry, I don't follow the train of extra negativity and some stupid "we can't beat anyone ever" mindset when we're losing close games.  Every game being close means the team could have won them all.  So adjustments made during the bye week could be enough to change a lot of outcomes.

 

The Ravens will not go 8-0 over the second half of the season, but they've proven there's no team that's a guaranteed loss for them this year so long as they improve on even one of the problems they've had.

[Militant X 1]

That was a very passionate post, and you're entitled to your opinion, which is based in reality and not flawed in any way.

I just wanted to pick this one quote you made out to say that all of our opponents for the next seven weeks have "found a way to lose" a minimum of four games themselves, which is about half or more of their contests thus far. The Ravens aren't the only team in control of the outcome of their games, so why is it so hard to believe that any of teams playing against us, a team who only plays games that end within one score, might "find a way to lose" against us?

 

Well, this is an "opinion" driven board and we all have our own to express regardless of others agreement to them or not.  So much respect to you and yours as well.

 

Unlike most here I couldn't care less about these other teams and how they perform...my focus is on my team...the Baltimore Ravens and how they perform!  Sure, I know the records of our upcoming opponents and know that they all have lost games as well but to hell with them.  Let's focus on the Ravens!  The Ravens went up against a "supposedly" horrible Raiders team and lost...right?  And, then they went up against another "supposedly" horrible team with a horrible record in the Browns...at home!  What was the outcome?  They lost!  But not only did they lose...they lost AFTER being up 21-9 at one point!  See, stuff like that is very telling and can't be so easily dismissed in my view.  Besides, we keep hearing about the same old issues week in and week out about the Ravens demise in these games that I won't bring up in this conversation.

 

My issue is that this present Ravens team...up to this point....8 weeks in....have not put together a solid, dominating or convincing performance in their lowly 2 wins to make me even remotely think that they will magically become feared juggernauts within the next 8 games...the home game included!  That's just where I'm at with this right now.

 

What are the givens?  The Ravens have been in every game that they lost!  Kool!  What is the common denominator in those losses? The Ravens!

[Militant X 1]

Oh I get it, feel free to comprehend what's being said.  With 9 weeks of lack of execution, talent, coaching, and injuries, we've still been in games until the end against some of the best the NFL has to offer right now.

With these backups, not executing and being coached poorly, they were still in position to beat almost every team they faced in regulation except the Cardinals.  Imagine if the coaches call better plays, the players learn to tackle and/or just commit less penalties, or even simply catch INTs?  

 

Sorry, I don't follow the train of extra negativity and some stupid "we can't beat anyone ever" mindset when we're losing close games.  Every game being close means the team could have won them all.  So adjustments made during the bye week could be enough to change a lot of outcomes.

 

The Ravens will not go 8-0 over the second half of the season, but they've proven there's no team that's a guaranteed loss for them this year so long as they improve on even one of the problems they've had.

 

My comprehension is outstanding!  Nice try though!

 

I'm not for the negativity aspect as you mentioned either but neither am I for the unrealistic view points about what's being seen and what has been demonstrated by these Ravens gameplay over a period of time.  I call it as I see it!  All of these adjustments that you bring up have been brought up for 8 weeks now!  8 weeks!  And all of this the Ravens "could've," "would've" and "should've" won those close games don't add one thing to their present record of 2-6.

[Purple_City39]

My comprehension is outstanding!  Nice try though!

 

I'm not for the negativity aspect as you mentioned either but neither am I for the unrealistic view points about what's being seen and what has been demonstrated by these Ravens gameplay over a period of time.  I call it as I see it!  All of these adjustments that you bring up have been brought up for 8 weeks now!  8 weeks!  And all of this the Ravens "could've," "would've" and "should've" won those close games don't add one thing to their present record of 2-6.

What was unrealistic of saying a team that has played every game close, including against top teams, has a chance to do the same and possibly change the outcome of a few games going forward? 

 

In that 8 weeks, did they really get a chance to work on problems between the multiple weeks of back to back west coast trips or planning for divisional rivals?  Feel free to point out what week the Ravens had to truly look over tape, find the problems, and adjust to them that wouldn't have taken away gameplanning time.  And before it's said, yes I know a lot of those gameplans didn't work, but that's not the question.

 

For someone claiming to be realistic, you've certainly given the coaches 0 chance of making even the slightest improvements on the team when all it would have taken was the slightest improvement to change a 2-6 record to 4-4 minimum. 

[beanfigger]

Well, this is an "opinion" driven board and we all have our own to express regardless of others agreement to them or not. So much respect to you and yours as well.

Unlike most here I couldn't care less about these other teams and how they perform...my focus is on my team...the Baltimore Ravens and how they perform! Sure, I know the records of our upcoming opponents and know that they all have lost games as well but to hell with them. Let's focus on the Ravens! The Ravens went up against a "supposedly" horrible Raiders team and lost...right? And, then they went up against another "supposedly" horrible team with a horrible record in the Browns...at home! What was the outcome? They lost! But not only did they lose...they lost AFTER being up 21-9 at one point! See, stuff like that is very telling and can't be so easily dismissed in my view. Besides, we keep hearing about the same old issues week in and week out about the Ravens demise in these games that I won't bring up in this conversation.

My issue is that this present Ravens team...up to this point....8 weeks in....have not put together a solid, dominating or convincing performance in their lowly 2 wins to make me even remotely think that they will magically become feared juggernauts within the next 8 games...the home game included! That's just where I'm at with this right now.

What are the givens? The Ravens have been in every game that they lost! Kool! What is the common denominator in those losses? The Ravens!

The Browns loss was the low point, and the 49ers are not very good, but not quite as bad as they seem (we are the only team they've played so far that has a losing record, and it was all the way out west when we played them). That two-week stretch was certainly our low point. We've seen that the Raiders are a good team.

Yes, we do lose games more often than we win this year, but the person was asking how can we say that we have no chance to win against the rest of the teams we play. We had a chance to win every game, so we will surely have a chance to win most of the rest. We have failed to capitalize on most of the chances, but we have capitalized twice, not never. So we CAN win those games, and it's foolish to say we have no chance. Whether you or I or anyone else think we WILL those games is an entirely different issue.

[Militant X 1]

What was unrealistic of saying a team that has played every game close, including against top teams, has a chance to do the same and possibly change the outcome of a few games going forward? 

 

In that 8 weeks, did they really get a chance to work on problems between the multiple weeks of back to back west coast trips or planning for divisional rivals?  Feel free to point out what week the Ravens had to truly look over tape, find the problems, and adjust to them that wouldn't have taken away gameplanning time.  And before it's said, yes I know a lot of those gameplans didn't work, but that's not the question.

 

For someone claiming to be realistic, you've certainly given the coaches 0 chance of making even the slightest improvements on the team when all it would have taken was the slightest improvement to change a 2-6 record to 4-4 minimum. 

 

My "realism" is based upon what the Ravens have shown me for 8 weeks now...close games or not man!  Even as I type this; I'm re-watching the Chargers game and the scroll across the screen was; "Baltimore Ravens: 11 Straight Games Without Opening Drive TD" and what do you know? This game made the 12 Straight Games Without Opening Drive TD cause they settled for a field goal on their opening drive to go up 3-0.  See!  That's what I mean man!  Based upon how these Ravens "have" played for 8 weeks now I don't get excited about how they "might" play in the upcoming ones.  Although, I want them to play very well in all of their upcoming games that doesn't mean that they will UNTIL they do so!

 

The Browns loss was the low point, and the 49ers are not very good, but not quite as bad as they seem (we are the only team they've played so far that has a losing record, and it was all the way out west when we played them). That two-week stretch was certainly our low point. We've seen that the Raiders are a good team.

Yes, we do lose games more often than we win this year, but the person was asking how can we say that we have no chance to win against the rest of the teams we play. We had a chance to win every game, so we will surely have a chance to win most of the rest. We have failed to capitalize on most of the chances, but we have capitalized twice, not never. So we CAN win those games, and it's foolish to say we have no chance. Whether you or I or anyone else think we WILL those games is an entirely different issue.

 

I know what he was asking! 

 

But where in any of my posts did I specifically say that the Ravens have "no chance" to beat this or that team?  I'm wondering where you guys got that from?  Maybe from this earlier statement?......

 

To me; it's not about that whole; "we're not getting blown out or we've been in every game" statement PC.  To me; there are multiple REASONS (i.e. injuries, lack of execution, talent, coaching etc.) for that man!  Of course, we all know that bad teams find ways to lose and good teams find ways to win.  With our Ravens; there are multiple factors that contribute to their inability to finish, close out or win these games...regardless of who their opponents might be!

 

^ This is the only place where I see where you guys may have gained your misunderstanding.  Although, to me, I'm clearly addressing the statement "we're not getting blown out or we've been in every game," perhaps I should have used; "those" and "may have been".

Edited November 9, 2015 by Militant X 1

[beanfigger]

My "realism" is based upon what the Ravens have shown me for 8 weeks now...close games or not man!  Even as I type this; I'm re-watching the Chargers game and the scroll across the screen was; "Baltimore Ravens: 11 Straight Games Without Opening Drive TD" and what do you know? This game made the 12 Straight Games Without Opening Drive TD cause they settled for a field goal on their opening drive to go up 3-0.  See!  That's what I mean man!  Based upon how these Ravens "have" played for 8 weeks now I don't get excited about how they "might" play in the upcoming ones.  Although, I want them to play very well in all of their upcoming games that doesn't mean that they will UNTIL they do so!

 

 

I know what he was asking! 

 

But where in any of my posts did I specifically say that the Ravens have "no chance" to beat this or that team?  I'm wondering where you guys got that from?  Maybe from this earlier statement?......

 

To me; it's not about that whole; "we're not getting blown out or we've been in every game" statement PC.  To me; there are multiple REASONS (i.e. injuries, lack of execution, talent, coaching etc.) for that man!  Of course, we all know that bad teams find ways to lose and good teams find ways to win.  With our Ravens; there are multiple factors that contribute to their inability to finish, close out or win these games...regardless of who their opponents might be!

 

^ This is the only place where I see where you guys may have gained your misunderstanding.  Although, to me, I'm clearly addressing the statement "we're not getting blown out or we've been in every game," perhaps I should have used; "those" and "may have been".

 

The misunderstanding comes from the fact that the poster stated he doesn't get why people think we have no chance to win some games, a statement which you underlined and to which you responded, "You don't get it? Really? Wow!"

[Kid87]

The jags WRS are dangerous hurns and robinson are looking pretty good.I wonder who covers who this week..

[Militant X 1]

The misunderstanding comes from the fact that the poster stated he doesn't get why people think we have no chance to win some games, a statement which you underlined and to which you responded, "You don't get it? Really? Wow!"

 

Naw that ain't it bro!  That's semantics.  My explanation of my statement "You don't get it? Really?  Wow!" was quite clear!  But I also noticed how you left out my other question as to "Where in my posts did I specifically say that the Ravens have "no chance" against teams?

[Purple_City39]

My "realism" is based upon what the Ravens have shown me for 8 weeks now...close games or not man!  Even as I type this; I'm re-watching the Chargers game and the scroll across the screen was; "Baltimore Ravens: 11 Straight Games Without Opening Drive TD" and what do you know? This game made the 12 Straight Games Without Opening Drive TD cause they settled for a field goal on their opening drive to go up 3-0.  See!  That's what I mean man!  Based upon how these Ravens "have" played for 8 weeks now I don't get excited about how they "might" play in the upcoming ones.  Although, I want them to play very well in all of their upcoming games that doesn't mean that they will UNTIL they do so!

This is what I mean.  It's being negative for the sake of it.  The Ravens didn't score an opening drive TD against the Chargers.......but they still won.  Focusing on specific negative stats in order to say the team is x, y, z is just being negative.  There's a streak for everything and every team experiences a few good and bad ones.

 

You may not get excited for any positive potential but I, and others, see a team that barely lost games due to penalties (fixable), missed tackles (fixable), bad coaching (fixable), lack of turnovers (realistically not easily fixable), and of course injuries (not fixable).  We'll just have a difference of view here because I'll have faith in the coaches that they can make enough adjustments to turn a few more close losses into close wins, and you're free to just think they won't do anything different at all.

[Purple_City39]

Naw that ain't it bro!  That's semantics.  My explanation of my statement "You don't get it? Really?  Wow!" was quite clear!  But I also noticed how you left out my other question as to "Where in my posts did I specifically say that the Ravens have "no chance" against teams?

Please don't play the "semantics" argument when you've replied in similar fashion.  Remember this:

 

I for one, am not so quick to just dismiss 8 weeks of mediocre and piss poor game play from them to now think that these Ravens will all of a sudden flip on some magical switch and just start playing like world beaters!

 

 

Just like you ask where you said they have "no chance" against teams, show where I said they were going to be "world beaters".  Especially in response to a post of mine you quoted with saying we wouldn't go 7-1 let alone 8-0.

 

Now, on your question, I said this "we can't beat anyone" mindset.  Which was displayed by you listing almost every team we have left on the schedule and talking about why it'll be a struggle to beat them.  Yes, you have expressed that mindset left and right especially in regards to my consistent posts simply stating that the Ravens can improve over the last half of the season since they had an entire bye week to work on things.  

[beanfigger]

Naw that ain't it bro!  That's semantics.  My explanation of my statement "You don't get it? Really?  Wow!" was quite clear!  But I also noticed how you left out my other question as to "Where in my posts did I specifically say that the Ravens have "no chance" against teams?

 

You didn't. You just responded to a post about that specific thing with an argument. Why respond to that post and debate it if you aren't actually debating what that post stated? Nice to finally clear things up and realize we're on the same page, but please don't pretend that we're just imagining and assuming things that we aren't.

[Militant X 1]

This is what I mean.  It's being negative for the sake of it.  The Ravens didn't score an opening drive TD against the Chargers.......but they still won.  Focusing on specific negative stats in order to say the team is x, y, z is just being negative.  There's a streak for everything and every team experiences a few good and bad ones.

 

You may not get excited for any positive potential but I, and others, see a team that barely lost games due to penalties (fixable), missed tackles (fixable), bad coaching (fixable), lack of turnovers (realistically not easily fixable), and of course injuries (not fixable).  We'll just have a difference of view here because I'll have faith in the coaches that they can make enough adjustments to turn a few more close losses into close wins, and you're free to just think they won't do anything different at all.

 

Your emotions are getting the best of you PC and you've missed the point of my bringing up that Ravens opening drive TD stat.  The point of it was validating the formulation of "my" view point and "my" mindset of the Ravens and how they have played (close games or not) for 8 weeks now.  And based upon things they have done consistently for 8 weeks...."I'm" not all of a sudden expecting them to be world beaters in their next 8 games.  And nowhere in my posts did you ever see me say that they can't beat this or that team.  But, my expectation of them isn't raised because of how they have "played" the past 8 weeks!  My thought is let's just hope we can beat the team in front of us!  That's real to me!

Edited November 9, 2015 by Militant X 1

[Militant X 1]

Please don't play the "semantics" argument when you've replied in similar fashion.  Remember this:

 

 

Just like you ask where you said they have "no chance" against teams, show where I said they were going to be "world beaters".  Especially in response to a post of mine you quoted with saying we wouldn't go 7-1 let alone 8-0.

 

Now, on your question, I said this "we can't beat anyone" mindset.  Which was displayed by you listing almost every team we have left on the schedule and talking about why it'll be a struggle to beat them.  Yes, you have expressed that mindset left and right especially in regards to my consistent posts simply stating that the Ravens can improve over the last half of the season since they had an entire bye week to work on things.  

 

You never said they would be "world beaters" and I never said or assumed you did like you have with me.  And here is what else you are missing PC.  I'll give you that the team can improve and make adjustments!  Of course they can!  But, will you give me that this has been said for 8 weeks now about this team with nothing changing?

 

You didn't. You just responded to a post about that specific thing with an argument. Why respond to that post and debate it if you aren't actually debating what that post stated? Nice to finally clear things up and realize we're on the same page, but please don't pretend that we're just imagining and assuming things that we aren't.

 

We're on the same page but please don't try to tell me what I meant by my statements when I know what I meant by them.  I hate when people try to twist things and take a simple conversation or statement where it wasn't meant to go!  But we're good!

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