Next up: Jacksonville Jaguars ( home Nov 15)

[beanfigger]

you could even throw Seattle and Miami in there....

 

Seattle would have to score in order to blow teams out.

[RaineV1]

One thing I don't like about the game against the Jags is that they're still contenders to win their division. They're 2-5 and the Colts are only 3-5. Had the Colts been a bit better, this game would have just been two bad teams fighting to not be the worst. Now the Jaguars have something to really play for. Plus, I just don't like how our defense matches up with their receivers and tightends.

 

I'm guessing that this will turn into a shootout.

[Purple_City39]

Lol, no team that can blow us out? You know we have to play the Steelers, Bengals, and Chiefs right?

A healthy Cardinals, Bengals, and Broncos team couldn't blow us out (like they are doing other teams) but a Steelers team, sans Bell, a Bengals team and Chiefs team, sans Charles, is supposed to?

[Bobby]

Ravens 27

Jags 23

[Cillmatic]

Because we beat the Steelers at home with Bell, we lost narrowly to the Bengals at home and Alex Smith. Nothing really screams blowouts based on recent evidence.

1. No, we NARROWLY beat the steelers at home because their kicker missed about FIVE field goals and BEN was NOT PLAYING.

2.the Bengals are FAR better than they were when they played us. Currently 6-0 I believe.

3. Alex Smith just blew out the Lions, whose defense is probably as good if not better than ours.

Edited November 3, 2015 by Cillmatic

[beanfigger]

3. Alex Smith just blew out the Lions, whose defense is probably as good if not better than ours.

 

Somebody hasn't been paying attention.

[Tank 92]

LMAO!

[frank cambra]

1. No, we NARROWLY beat the steelers at home because their kicker missed about FIVE field goals and BEN was NOT PLAYING.

2.the Bengals are FAR better than they were when they played us. Currently 6-0 I believe.

3. Alex Smith just blew out the Lions, whose defense is probably as good if not better than ours.

1. I think Bell is more crucial to their*  offensive success than Ben is, especially in December when they play us on the road.

 

2. By then the Bengals will in all likelihood have the division wrapped up and probably be resting starters. On the otherhand they may be playing for top seed. Regardless, the Bengals game will probably be close until the end, as per usual.

 

3. The last team i think that could blow us out is the cheifs. Alex smith is alergic to throwing more than 5 yards which seems to be the only offense our defense can play well against.

 

I'd wager that the last to spots will go to a 9-7 team which still leaves room for error. I think going 7-1 the last 8 has the same chance as us going 2-6 the first 8. This is a strange year, we can only get better.

Edited November 4, 2015 by frank cambra

[RaineV1]

1. I think Bell is more crucial to there offensive success than Ben is, especially in December when they play us on the road.

I really have to disagree with this. Did you see the Steeler's offense when Vick and Landry were in there for Ben? It was awful. They can not take advantage of Brown's speed at all, and make far worse decisions with the ball than Ben does. If Ben had been in that game, the Ravens would have been blown out.

[Moderator 3]

Reminder: this thread is about our upcoming game with the Jaguars. Please stay on topic. Thank you.

[Cillmatic]

I really have to disagree with this. Did you see the Steeler's offense when Vick and Landry were in there for Ben? It was awful. They can not take advantage of Brown's speed at all, and make far worse decisions with the ball than Ben does. If Ben had been in that game, the Ravens would have been blown out.

+35

[jaege]

I really have to disagree with this. Did you see the Steeler's offense when Vick and Landry were in there for Ben? It was awful. They can not take advantage of Brown's speed at all, and make far worse decisions with the ball than Ben does. If Ben had been in that game, the Ravens would have been blown out.

 

 

There is no "if". There is what happened. There is reality. Ben did not play, we won. No blow out.

[hawkprey]

I really have to disagree with this. Did you see the Steeler's offense when Vick and Landry were in there for Ben? It was awful. They can not take advantage of Brown's speed at all, and make far worse decisions with the ball than Ben does. If Ben had been in that game, the Ravens would have been blown out.

Can we then also say we would have beaten the Broncos if Monroe was healthy? Or do hypothetical scenarios only grant perfect health to opposing teams?

[ludy51]

Can we then also say we would have beaten the Broncos if Monroe was healthy? Or do hypothetical scenarios only grant perfect health to opposing teams?

Weird how that works isn't it?

[RaineV1]

Can we then also say we would have beaten the Broncos if Monroe was healthy? Or do hypothetical scenarios only grant perfect health to opposing teams?

I said that in response to a comment specifically about the Steelers. It had nothing to do with only applying it to other teams. And yeah, the Ravens probably would have beaten the Broncos if they were completely healthy, with Monroe and Perriman in the lineup.

Edited November 4, 2015 by RaineV1

[Bryden88]

We win this game. We win against the Rams, and we win against the Browns. Then I believe we go to Miami. I think we can win against them, as I believe that the team will have nothing to fight for - they rallied around their head coach until they met New England and got destroyed, and I think the Dolphins are basically the AFC East version of the Browns.

 

Any game after that I'd flip a coin off and say we either win or lose by 3-7 points.

[frank cambra]

I really have to disagree with this. Did you see the Steeler's offense when Vick and Landry were in there for Ben? It was awful. They can not take advantage of Brown's speed at all, and make far worse decisions with the ball than Ben does. If Ben had been in that game, the Ravens would have been blown out.

I agree with Ben playing qb we lose. But if it was Ben playing, instead of bell, I think we take it. Look at the playoff game last year. Not to mention Ben's playing the best football of his career coincidentally now that bell has grown into the best dual threat back in the game. With Landry in, didnt they wash up the Cardinals, a team many considered super bowl favorites?

 

Anyway, the only part of jacksonville that scares me is Allen Robinson and his explosiveness. The good guys should be able to at least keep pace with bortles and co. at home. We have to get a TO one of these games right? Bortles isn't known for his accuracy.

[Ravenseconbeast]

So with Joe Morgan, we got a guy similar to Jacoby. 33ypc not alot of recep.

He has a DUI

Anyone know if he is officially signed yet

[JoeyFlex5]

One thing I don't like about the game against the Jags is that they're still contenders to win their division. They're 2-5 and the Colts are only 3-5. Had the Colts been a bit better, this game would have just been two bad teams fighting to not be the worst. Now the Jaguars have something to really play for. Plus, I just don't like how our defense matches up with their receivers and tightends.

 

I'm guessing that this will turn into a shootout.

i said since preseason that jax is a trap game, but now its not really a trap game, just a bad team that matches up very well to beat us, another bad team. 

 

i saw our secondary struggles in the preseason, and the first things i thought of was cin, pit, and jax's receivers torching us, i also had a feeling amari cooper was gonna torch us. 

[Deflated Football]

I agree with the dude from today's mailbag and can see us finishing at 4-4 which would put us as 6-10. We beat the Jags because we're at home, have an extra week to prepare, a new deep threat for Flacco and HOPEFULLY a Breshad sighting. 

[cursona pirate]

4 and 4 realistically. I dont see us going 8 and 0.

[Raving_Heathen]

The Ravens played probably their best game of the year vs Arizona, especially on D. The games against the Steelers and Bengals don't count because they're division games and are usually close regardless of talent gap. And the Chargers team we barely beat at home was bad even before they were wiped clean due to injury.

 

It's cool that some fans are eternal optimists but there's no way anyone can reasonably think this team is going 10-6 or even 9-7, or heck even 8-8, at this point. We have zero pass rush, a completely clueless secondary, and WRs who'd be lucky to be on other teams' practice squads. Literally our kicker is our best offensive weapon, followed by an inconsistent QB who's playing behind a banged-up OL. And probably our two most vocal leaders on offense and defense are out for the season.

 

Don't get me wrong. If I had a choice for the Ravens to go 10-6 or 9-7 and make the playoffs vs going 2-14, I'd take the playoffs every time. But the far more likely scenario with what we have is that we'd go 6-10, which just stinks all around. I'd rather go 2-14 than 6-10, not only for the draft but for next year's scheduling, too. Being practical doesn't make anyone less of a fan.

[RaineV1]

Some people like to point to how close the games were as a reason why the Ravens can somehow string together 8 straight wins to get into the playoffs. But in my opinion it shows the exact opposite. Good teams, teams capable of stringing together a ton of wins know how to finish games. They don't keep losing close games. Look at the Panthers. It's true they shouldn't have let the Colts back into the game at all, but once it got down to the end of regulation and into OT they stepped up and finished strong. And you can look at the Broncos. How many close games have they won? That's an example of a team with a killer instinct capable making the big plays at the end when it matters most. The Ravens simply don't have that. The offense or defense (usually the latter) always comes up short and just won't step up when they're needed most. The Ravens don't have the fire or killer instinct you see in the really good teams, and they aren't going to go on some magical run to get into the playoffs.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Ravens are an enigma. Especially now with all these new faces. Who knows if the new WRs just suddenly click with Joe? Or if our secondary and pass rush finally get their act together. Maybe the o-line will improve which will benefit both the pass and the run.

It could all come together.

It could all fall apart.

It could remain more or less how it's been.

Only thing I do know is that this team will not be what it started out as, even if th end results remain the same (close losses).

But who's to say how we'll finish. With so much roster turnover and adjustments as a result, it's almost as if after the bye, we'll be starting a new season. With a new team.

[Sherly_Tebow]

The Ravens played probably their best game of the year vs Arizona, especially on D. The games against the Steelers and Bengals don't count because they're division games and are usually close regardless of talent gap. And the Chargers team we barely beat at home was bad even before they were wiped clean due to injury.

It's cool that some fans are eternal optimists but there's no way anyone can reasonably think this team is going 10-6 or even 9-7, or heck even 8-8, at this point. We have zero pass rush, a completely clueless secondary, and WRs who'd be lucky to be on other teams' practice squads. Literally our kicker is our best offensive weapon, followed by an inconsistent QB who's playing behind a banged-up OL. And probably our two most vocal leaders on offense and defense are out for the season.

Don't get me wrong. If I had a choice for the Ravens to go 10-6 or 9-7 and make the playoffs vs going 2-14, I'd take the playoffs every time. But the far more likely scenario with what we have is that we'd go 6-10, which just stinks all around. I'd rather go 2-14 than 6-10, not only for the draft but for next year's scheduling, too. Being practical doesn't make anyone less of a fan.

I'm not saying it'll happen, but I think 9-7 is a possibility. I know it's not as realistic as 6-10, but I think we win over half of our last 8. Going 8-0 to go 10-6? It's hard to believe. I think we can go 4-0 to start the second half, and then the last 4 will be tough, but if that were to happen, we'd be 6-6 before those last 4 games. Having a great HC in Harbaugh, maybe we find a way? Who knows!

[ellicottraven]

I can't see us going 8-0. Having said that I couldn't see us being 1-6 prior to last week either. I really believe there is a reason we are sitting at 2-6 and that's because we aren't a very good team. To think that we go from that to a team that can finish 8-0 is somewhat foolhardy and extremely 'homeresque'.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we won 4-5 of the next 8 games nor would I be surprised if we went 2-6 again over the next 8 games. What would surprise me (no make it shock me) is if we ran the table and went 8-0. At best we finish this season 7-9 and at worst 4-12.

Edited November 5, 2015 by ellicottraven

[usmccharles]

I can't see us going 8-0. Having said that I couldn't see us being 1-6 prior to last week either. I really believe there is a reason we are sitting at 2-6 and that's because we aren't a very good team. To think that we go from that to a team that can finish 8-0 is somewhat foolhardy and extremely 'homeresque'.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we won 4-5 of the next 8 games nor would I be surprised if we went 2-6 again over the next 8 games. What would surprise me (no make it shock me) is if we ran the table and went 8-0. At best we finish this season 7-9 and at worst 4-12.

Im more so with you.  Obviously i think having all these home games left will help us get some wins, but running the table...i just dont see the talent on any part of our team.  We dont dominate at anything, we dont play good defense, we have no playmakers on offense.  There is literally nothing that could scare anyone that we do...just being realistic. 

 

i see us winning 6 games this year...

[beanfigger]

We have zero pass rush

I'm not trying to pick on you because most of your long post is valid. This is just one of the many times I have seen this particular criticism posted. I think this goes into the perception vs reality category. We watch every drive and every play of our team, so we we see several times when the QB has a clean pocket, and many assume that means we have no pass rush. We are actually 6th in the league in sacks. That's pretty impressive if we have no pass rush. We know it isn't coverage sacks, and it's basically Dumervil and a bunch of youngsters who haven't received much recognition, yet. This is the same as the people who claim we have constant three and outs when we are far from the league lead in that category and are actually near the top in plays per possession. Can our pass rush improve? Sure, but it is far from non-existent and light years away from being amongst our biggest flaws this season.

[January J]

Some people like to point to how close the games were as a reason why the Ravens can somehow string together 8 straight wins to get into the playoffs. But in my opinion it shows the exact opposite. Good teams, teams capable of stringing together a ton of wins know how to finish games. They don't keep losing close games. Look at the Panthers. It's true they shouldn't have let the Colts back into the game at all, but once it got down to the end of regulation and into OT they stepped up and finished strong. And you can look at the Broncos. How many close games have they won? That's an example of a team with a killer instinct capable making the big plays at the end when it matters most. The Ravens simply don't have that. The offense or defense (usually the latter) always comes up short and just won't step up when they're needed most. The Ravens don't have the fire or killer instinct you see in the really good teams, and they aren't going to go on some magical run to get into the playoffs.

the panthers only held on bc of a Andrew luck interception that doinked right off a receiver straight into the hands of keichly. And that's another reason why we haven't been pulling out these close games- the ball simply hasn't been bouncing our way. Believe it or not luck does play a small part in football. And we've been on the wrong end of way too many fluke plays. Edited November 5, 2015 by January J

[PurpleCity5]

Is Brent Urban expected to make this debut?