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Would you want Ray Lewis for D Co ordinator?

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maybe as an assistant to help players with film study and teach them how to do it correctly.  I doubt it could be any worse than what we have been doing. 

 

But fans need to get this notion of Ray coming back out of their head.  Ray is always going to be loved by Bmore, but there has to be a time to move on and look to the future.  Its obviously a great thought and i myself would like it, but its not going to happen

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I'd want him to start as the LB coah first.

Can you imagine how much that would benefit Mosely and Orr? Even Smith despite being a seasoned veteran?

Maybe even Brown too.

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I'd want him to start as the LB coah first.

Can you imagine how much that would benefit Mosely and Orr? Even Smith despite being a seasoned veteran?

Maybe even Brown too.

fixed.  B)

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If he was still young enough, then hell yes.

But now at 40, sorry, he just can't do it anymore.

And we're going to have to face the same reality with Suggs fairly soon, even if he doesn't retire or move on to a new team.

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None of those you mentioned were superstars . Not even close . Name me a successful coach that was a superstar player aka Michael Jordan,Ray Lewis.

Jimmy: The word "superstar" was created by the media.  If you want a coach, you prefer one who had experience as a player.  The trench is the measuring stick not a media adjective such as "superstar".  

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maybe as an assistant to help players with film study and teach them how to do it correctly.  I doubt it could be any worse than what we have been doing. 

 

But fans need to get this notion of Ray coming back out of their head.  Ray is always going to be loved by Bmore, but there has to be a time to move on and look to the future.  Its obviously a great thought and i myself would like it, but its not going to happen

That is a realistic opinion.  I surmise you are a marine vet.  No man will react with purpose unless motivated and prepared.  

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That is a realistic opinion.  I surmise you are a marine vet.  No man will react with purpose unless motivated and prepared.  

Which part is the realistic option?

 

and you are correct i am. 

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Mike Singletary.

 

 

A quick search shows that he made $200k in 1990 as a player. He retired in 1992, so............

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Coaching and playing are really two different animals. Mentor yes. Coach no.  Coaching is also a fraternity. It takes years to develop that skill.  There are many different perspectives to consider as a coach. Not just one dynamic. The stars are not aligned for that to happen. Biscotti probably ran that across Ozzie's mind and it got vetoed. Besides Harbaugh probably wouldn't want Ray to undermine his authority.  :rolleyes:

But to mentor/motivate is a far less threat to upper level leadership. 

I can him it now- (Ray) "He don't know what he talking bout" ! "Do it my way next play! 

(Harbaugh)- i thought I called for a all out blitz.!

(Ray)- " Oh,  my bad" !  "My headset went out and I didn't hear yah"!

(Harbaugh)- Oh Okay……….. :o  B)

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No. Great players aren't always great coaches.

 

Moot discussion anyway because zero chance Ray would give up a multimillion dollar position at ESPN to make peanuts (by comparison) as a DC.

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Jimmy: The word "superstar" was created by the media.  If you want a coach, you prefer one who had experience as a player.  The trench is the measuring stick not a media adjective such as "superstar".  

I'm talking Ray Lewis,Johnny Unitas ,Michael Jordon, Magic ,add in Willy Mays. 

 

Thats what i mean , the best of the best. 

 

I just don't think those types of players would make or were good coaches. 

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I'm talking Ray Lewis,Johnny Unitas ,Michael Jordon, Magic ,add in Willy Mays. 

 

Thats what i mean , the best of the best. 

 

I just don't think those types of players would make or were good coaches. 

 

Well most great players have a hard time coaching players who lack their skill.  But I don't think this applies to Ray as he was a coach on the field when he was a player and certainly put in the time watching film.   Who knows if he would be a good coach or not.  I don't think anyone isn't going to give their all when Ray is coaching.  

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As a LB or Conditioning coach sure, but as DC? He needs to prove himself in college or as an assistant before any hiring

 

Side Note: Ed Reed said he wanted to coach for Miami, so he is definitely someone to keep an eye on in the next few years if he finds success there and wants to take a step up

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He was practically a DC during his playing days anyway...

 

They say that superstars dont make good coaches because they do not think like average players; physically they could do things that others couldn't, and cant relate to lesser athletes.

In Ray's case, it was his knowledge of the game that made him who he was; that could translate very well into a coaching position...all that said, he put this topic to rest when he retired, not happening

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Name another . Yogi was a great player but not every Hall of Famer was a superstar .

Widely regarded as best catcher of all time and he won 3 MVP awards

Not sure who else then could better classify that was a player/coach

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The issue with this line of thinking that he was a defensive coordinator on the field is that he made adjustments to put players in the right position based on what he saw in the formations. He took Pees plays and adjusted them (as did Upshaw in the Super Bowl run) based on what he saw.

That is an entirely different animal from calling the correct plays and putting your players in the correct position before even seeing the formation. All he'd have to go on is personnel and he'd have to rely on his players.

He can't force his players to see what he did when he played and make those same adjustments.

Short answer is no, unless he actually proves himself as one in college

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