[News] Late For Work 10/29: Here's Why Breshad Perriman Isn't On Injured Reserve

[Ravens_Flock]

He should be on IR. He's not going to play this season. Just because he's a first round pick, doesn't mean anything. We have literally wasted a roster spot all season thus far, just because they vaguely think "there's a shot he might play". So what? Let him rest until next season, then see if he's actually worth anything, or can even stay healthy at all.

[kennethyamini1989]

Perriman is the Sergio Kindle of WRs. Dude will touch the field like 2-3 times, go back to being injured and then never heard of again. Ravens have never had success in the draft with WRs. They do trade well tho.

[rmcjacket23]

He should be on IR. He's not going to play this season. Just because he's a first round pick, doesn't mean anything. We have literally wasted a roster spot all season thus far, just because they vaguely think "there's a shot he might play". So what? Let him rest until next season, then see if he's actually worth anything, or can even stay healthy at all.

And that roster spot would have been used for....

[OzzieBisciotti]

Don't want either back. Torrey is locked into the 49ers next season (no way you cut a guy with that contract after one season) and Jacoby is purely a kick returner, so its not a system issue for him, because kick returners are kick returners.

 

I'd never advocate a player take less money, and I have no reason to suspect that adding either of those two to this team currently would all of the sudden make us a legit contender. Got a lot of other problems as well.

You're right in that Torrey wouldn't have suddenly made us a legit contender, but he would've helped us win a couple of games- I firmly believe that- look at our third tier receivers we have today.  Why do you think Marlon Brando looked good last year?  Why did Aiken look okay?  Because Torrey would've opened everything up for others.  While Torrey wouldn't have made us a sudden contender, because everyone knows there are so many holes on this team (e.g. cornerbacks), I think his leadership and talents would've helped us be beyond 1-6.  I don't think the Redskins even started off at 1-6.  I could be wrong, but 1-6?  This is ridiclous- this is Oakland Raiders / Cleveland Browns territory- this season is an absolute embarrasment.   

[ravenstime]

Two things, yes, Asa is good and bad, hot and cold. He makes plays happen, but they're not always beneficial to us. He's the kind of guy that both teams like, somewhat. And the receivers, let's not assume they're always at fault. Flacco is not having his best year. I still love Joe and hope he turns a corner here (no pun intended). He's missed a few guys and sailed a few passes, but I'm giving him time to gel with these guys, and I think he will. Will it be in time for 5 wins??? Probably not.

[Maryland]

I don't think the evaluation of Perriman really plays a big part in how our next draft will unfold. Look at it this way: scenario 1) Perriman is a stud; we need 2 WRs. Scenario 2) Perriman is a bust; we need 3 WRs. Either way, we're looking for multiple WRs, and we're still mostly sticking to BPA. I think getting some real NFL experience for a rookie matters more than simply evaluating him for our draft needs.

[Flamengo1265]

Put Perriman on IR and promote Daniel Brown. Cut Marlon Brown and bring up either Nick Perry or Brennan Beyer and see what one of them can do.

[rmcjacket23]

I don't think the evaluation of Perriman really plays a big part in how our next draft will unfold. Look at it this way: scenario 1) Perriman is a stud; we need 2 WRs. Scenario 2) Perriman is a bust; we need 3 WRs. Either way, we're looking for multiple WRs, and we're still mostly sticking to BPA. I think getting some real NFL experience for a rookie matters more than simply evaluating him for our draft needs.

I doubt they'll really need two if Perriman is healthy and playing well. I think the FO, knowing they have other positions to fill, will likely only grab one WR (via early draft pick or FA), and then use some combination of the guys we have (Kamar, Camp, etc.) for the rest of the core. This isn't an offense that figures to ever really get production out of a #3 WR anyway, so developing a Packers/Broncos like WR core isn't really in our best interest.

 

If they sign a quality veteran, I suspect they'll use a mid round pick on a WR in the hopes of development, and it'll be the veteran, Perriman, and a bunch of other guys along with our TEs as the primary pass catchers. 

 

If for some reason they decide to use an early round pick on a rookie WR, I suspect they'll target a much cheaper veteran in FA and look for those three to be the guys.

 

I certainly don't see the FO signing a decent FA WR AND using a high draft pick on one. I think they'll give Perriman every possible shot at getting healthy and playing a lot next year.

[Halshayeji]

1- The Ravens must pick up a vet WR or invest an early draft pick on a WR regardless. SSS should be begged to stay one more year and Perriman seems to be an injury prone player for now. A quality WR is a top priority.

2- I think keeping perriman on the roster could potentially do wonders for his preparation next year. If he goes on IR he's virtually a rookie next year but if he plays 3-4 games he'll settle in and would be much better off after next years pre season. Give the guy the snaps of he can play this year. He needs them.

3- I don't see any scenario where Monroe is traded. It's way too early in his contract to depart with in terms of dead money. The Ravens would literally burn cap space this year and next to get rid of their best LT and free money 2 seasons from now.

[January J]

The good and bad of Asa Jackson has been the story since preseason. Some things never change.

It also sucks that joe is the worst in the league against the blitz.., could've sworn we were working on making teams pay for that during camp..

[purpledown]

4 or 5 th for Monroe, i would take it , he has been disappointment since he got here. Or dead wood like Ed Brown a 6 or 7 would be fine, but thats probably asking too much. There is one receiver on this team his name is Steve Smith, the rest are lucky to be in the league. No matter how the Ravens finish the season, the whole football operation needs to be looked at with the acception of Harbaugh.

[law215]

Looking at the current players on the roster what concerns me the most is what appears to be a lack of work ethics. Joe is up and down with his fundamentals. He always says he doesn't need to work with receivers early on in the offseason. Then during the season, the offense looks like a group of guys that never played with each other. When will Joe learn to call his own plays instead of calling timeouts because the sideline needs to tell him everything. How many times has Suggs, Webb, Upshaw take show to camp out of shape or in poor condition. Safeties still having "bad eyes", OLB still jumping offside. There is a lack of discipline with this team. Ray and Ed held it together because they demanded the best from their team. With that leadership gone, who models the behavior of professional. Therefore,I find it hard to believe other teams would give up anything significant for any of these players.

[BigUgly]

Ravens need improved play at too many positions to be competitive this year, but a solid draft and $20 M in additional cap space available next year will help. On offense we need to replace Monroe at LT, upgrade at Center, beg SSSr to stay and find a legit #1 (Permian?) and a slot guy that can move the chains and stay healthy. Defense is in worse shape. We need an edge rusher as insurance for Suggs (and an aging Doom), a stud DB to replace Webb and move him to the slot, and a true Free Safety. Ozzie has his work cut out for him.

[20306cab]

Who's Perriman?

[DrinkmoreBeer]

At this point, it makes no sense to play Marlon Brown, as he doesn't even show up on a bad team. Play Givens, Ross, and anybody else and see what they can do. Brown will be cut next year, so why continue the experiment?

[EddiOK]

This season is an accumulation of: 1) Losing quality players to FA for a few years, 2) Poor drafting in key areas over same time, 3) injuries, 4) the continual coaching carousel with new schemes and styles. It's life in the NFL, but boy oh boy, it's become the perfect storm for us this year. The good news is that most of those above (except #3) we have some control over. Normally, good drafting counteracts injuries and FA, but in our case, it's exposed us to sub-par substitutes and desperate waiver wire acquisitions.

[ken_j]

Could coaching (and lack of coaching experienc) be at the root of some of these problems? Bobby Ingram (an excellent wide receiver for a lot of years) is in his second year as the Wide Receivers coach. Other than Steve Smith Sr and Torrey Smith (11 TDs), Ravens Wide Receivers (other than those two) were mediocre and they have taken a step backward this year. Chris Hewitt, the rookie Defensive Backs Coach spent most of his previous three years with the Ravens as an assistant for Special Teams. Do the Ravens need to bring in more experienced consultants for DBs and WRs?

Also, it has been widely discussed that Joe Flacco is working with his 4th OC in 4 years but has anyone noticed that his QB coach is constantly changing as well. I give Joe credit for dealing with such massive turnover as well as he has?

[ken_j]

Lardarius Webb, in my opinion, has always played Corner like a Safety. He has consistently played off (with a greater cushion than the high quality Corners in the league), cannot jam or reroute receivers, gets beat on double moves and has trouble when he's in a 'trail" position. He's a good tackler if the play is in front of him but lately he has shown that he is vulnerable in space: he misses tackles on shifty receivers like Antonio Brown and strong receivers like A. J. Green. Unlike some, I don't believe Webb can play the slot because he lacks the quickness to cover shifty receivers like Edleman. Webb doesn't "travel" (play both side of the field) well and he has trouble covering 1/4 of the field where the slot Corner is responsible for 1/2 of the field; shallow to intermediate and hash to hash.

Bottom line: Webb might need to move to Safety or he might be wearing different colors in 2016.