[News] Late For Work 10/29: Here's Why Breshad Perriman Isn't On Injured Reserve

[salamander]

It's not right that Brandon Williams is not even on the Pro Bowl ballot. Brandon's play has been stellar and he certainly MORE than deserves to be voted in. Talk about a snub. Maybe if the Ravens team was kicking major booty this year, Brandon would not have been overlooked? Regardless of how well or poorly the team plays, he deserves not only to be on the ballot but to be voted in.

[rmcjacket23]

Maybe Mcjacket or Bio will have an explanation for this one- Why would we add Jeremy Butler to the 53 man roster only to de-activate him? That move struck me as odd. Also please explain to some bloggers about the cap space next year not being a "spend free" spree just because we lose Rice's and other dead money. Thanks

For the same reason we have played on the active roster right now who aren't active on gameday.

 

Not everybody can be active. Somebody has to sit. If you don't have 7-8 injured players, that means healthy players sit.

 

By my count, Butler would have been the 6th receiver active on Monday night. What role do you expect the #6 WR to play in ANY game?

[bioLarzen]

Koch is having a great season too. I doubt that he gives Jacoby anything to return.

 

And even if he does... Jacoby's best return so far this season went for 30 yards. I'm not saying he's done (and hed still be way better than our current crop of "capable" return "specialists"...), but his best days surely seem to be behind him.

Edited October 29, 2015 by bioLarzen

[bioLarzen]

I still think they should have given Daniel Brown a shot.

 

Based on what?

[Derrel]

is there a decision to be made?......regardless if Perriman is a player. Get some receivers, draft, trade, whatever it takes. We have a couple of guys at tight end, that's it. Smith may be running up some stats but so what, he has dropped a number of game winners and is not an impact guy anymore. How do the Pats keep getting guys in impact positions and we don't...something needs to change. Oz, Harbaugh, other coaches, talent evaluators?? Frustrating

[bioLarzen]

Then who sits? 

 

Then why activate him? Just to fill the inactives list?

[rmcjacket23]

That makes sense, I forgot about Waller and the concussion. I thought they would activate Butler for Special Teams at least. Oh well I have no idea either. Any answer on the Cap money being saved? I know that there is 20 million in dead money being lifted but that does not mean that we have all of that money to spend.

Based on RSR analysis and other places I've seen, by the time we tender our RFAs/ERFAs and account for money allotted to draft picks and incentive compensation/adjustments, we are basically right at the salary cap heading into 2016.

 

For the most part, the cap space we have available will be the difference between the players we cut to create cap space, the Flacco potential extension, decreased by the extensions we give (Tucker, maybe others). 

 

My best guess is when its all said and done we'll have roughly $15M to spend, depending on who and how many players we cut.

 

In short, I wouldn't expect a big spending spreed.

[Ravensfansince03]

Based on what?

 

Based on the fact that we are 1-6 and our WR's are going down like flies

 

based on the fact that he was a undrafted pick, and I root for the underdogs

 

Based on the fact that he made plays WHEN GIVEN THE OPPURTUNITY

 

Based on the fact that we have no tough receivers outside of a banged up SSS

 

And did I mention based on the fact that we are 1-6?

Edited October 29, 2015 by Ravensfansince03

[merryjman]

Typo! It should have said "don't be surprised to see Flacco underthrow Chris Givens more in week 8 versus the Chargers."

I am not a Flacco hater. But at some point we need to admit that despite his cannon arm, he cannot hit receivers in stride to save his life. Deep threats are only threats when they get thrown catchable balls.

[bioLarzen]

In retrospect, I bet they wish they released all the CBs except Webb and Smith and resigned Corey Graham 2 years ago. I am exaggerating about releasing everyone but Graham was solid and still is for Buffalo now. Hopefully Will Davis can come on strong next year as a slot CB.

 

Hindsight in the NFL is 0/0...

[rmcjacket23]

Then why activate him? Just to fill the inactives list?

Roster spot open. We only had 52, so needed number 53. 

 

No different than when we sign Babin and he doesn't play for weeks. 

 

I mean just because we bring somebody up from the PS doesn't mean he's going to be a starting player or even a role player. 

 

Like I asked, if he's active, somebodies not. Who is that guy?

Edited October 29, 2015 by rmcjacket23

[RavensFanThick&Thin]

Brown was picked in the 3rd Round by the Steelers. Not a high pick. Another one we missed on.

Brown was actually picked in the 6th making him one of the best values in recent draft history imo (Bryant was 4th rounder). I guess I should have clarified more but the post was getting long. I consider 1-3 high picks in terms of someone that should contribute immediately. Steelers don't always pick them that high but at least they are taking shots and finding gold (at least compared to the Ravens WR corp) in nearly every draft.

[rmcjacket23]

Based on the fact that we are 1-6 and our WR's are going down like flies

So has he actually earned that shot or are we just handing out playing time like its welfare?

 

All for giving young guys opportunities, as long as they're actually earning them.

Edited October 29, 2015 by rmcjacket23

[bioLarzen]

Based on the fact that we are 1-6 and our WR's are going down like flies

 

We have enough WR's - only they aren't good enough at the moment. Probably all of them are still better than where Dan Brown currently is, apparently. Don't forget that we are taliking about someone we have seen in a handful of pre-season games, against backup and backup-of-backups defensive backs. What he showed there doesn't really translate to real NFL games, where he should go against starting caliber backs.

[bluehen]

Folks, lets all remember that Perriman's injury looked more like a trip than a substantial hit, I am sure they want to see how he holds up when he is in a real game!

[bioLarzen]

Roster spot open. We only had 52, so needed number 53. 

 

You realize we had to cut Magee to create the roster spot for him?

 

"To make room for Butler, the Ravens waived RB Terrence Magee." (twitter, Jeff Zrebiec)

 

There was no open roster spot.

Edited October 29, 2015 by bioLarzen

[geaux_ravens]

Good Read Today!...Cawwwww.

[rmcjacket23]

You realize we had to cut Magee to create the roster spot for him?

 

"To make room for Butler, the Ravens waived RB Terrence Magee." (twitter, Jeff Zrebiec)

 

There was no open roster spot.

Sure, but Magee was also the 4th RB, so he's inactive on gameday as well.

 

So we swapped one player who would have been inactive for another.

 

What's the fascination with Butler anyway? If we promote an OL or DL from the PS and he's inactive, nobody ever says anything about that?

[PalmBayRaven]

Brown was actually picked in the 6th making him one of the best values in recent draft history imo (Bryant was 4th rounder). I guess I should have clarified more but the post was getting long. I consider 1-3 high picks in terms of someone that should contribute immediately. Steelers don't always pick them that high but at least they are taking shots and finding gold (at least compared to the Ravens WR corp) in nearly every draft.

 

I agree. It is beyond me why they can't get any decent Receivers? It seems like all the other 31 teams can find receivers except the Ravens? You would think Oz being a Hall of Fame TE that he could pick talented guys?

[TheRavengers]

So how much longer before we can see Brent Urban in action? He's due to be off the injury list soon, right?

[Ravensfansince03]

So has he actually earned that shot or are we just handing out playing time like its welfare?

 

All for giving young guys opportunities, as long as they're actually earning them.

 

Im done arguing with Daniel Brown haters. Keep on rooting for the players Harbaugh wants you to root for. I have an eye for talent, always have.

[Ravensfansince03]

We have enough WR's - only they aren't good enough at the moment. Probably all of them are still better than where Dan Brown currently is, apparently. Don't forget that we are taliking about someone we have seen in a handful of pre-season games, against backup and backup-of-backups defensive backs. What he showed there doesn't really translate to real NFL games, where he should go against starting caliber backs.

 

I'll just stop you right there Bio.

 

That's like a soldier saying, I have enough guns, only they don't shoot Lol

Edited October 29, 2015 by Ravensfansince03

[rmcjacket23]

Im done arguing with Daniel Brown haters. Keep on rooting for the players Harbaugh wants you to root for. I have an eye for talent, always have.

LOL, needless to say, I'm going to go ahead and trust the judgment of the people who are paid millions to do this job and have done it successfully for a long time over the guy on the forum who says "I've always had an eye for talent".

 

I rank this right up there with the guy who thinks being a CEO of a billion dollar company is easy and anybody can do it...

[thieverycorporation]

The one thing currently being done by the team with Perriman that I can get behind.

[Ravensfansince03]

When you think about the fact that, over the past years we were depleted of Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin, and Jacoby Jones (understandably). And this offense has only been compensated with an 36 year old receiver, and our 1st round draft pick replacement for Torrey Smith has not played a game for us. I think this offense and especially Flacco have done a hell of a job of making plays. Its mainly our defense that has let us down.

[Drew P]

I agree. It is beyond me why they can't get any decent Receivers? It seems like all the other 31 teams can find receivers except the Ravens? You would think Oz being a Hall of Fame TE that he could pick talented guys?

 

They expect to hit home run in the first round or they attempt to outsmart the rest of the league by selecting a bush league school zero in the later rounds. Hand some kid off the street a Lindy's draft guide and I bet he can pick a WR at random better than these guys.

[fusuymada]

Two points 1.) What does four games that Perriman plays tell you. That he can run fast? We know that. Can he catch a ball? I think after OTA's and mini-camp we should know that. What it won't tell you is how durable will he be in the coming years. If he plays 4 games and kicks butt, does it mean we don't draft or pick up a receiver in free agency? If not, we are fools thinking that magically and mysteriously, the injury that was not an injury that kept him out all season, won't keep him out all of next season. 4 games wont show you he is durable so why bother. Find it all out next year when you have a full season to evaluate. 2.) Not many people know how many people the scouting department has lost since Harbaugh took over. I was listening to Phil Savage talk and he went through a litany of very good people involved in the early Ravens drafts (himself and Daniel Jeremiah to name two) that are now part of another organization. He also pointed out that when he was there Marchibroda and Billick had no say in personnel. Harbaugh is heavily embroiled in every new player. Harbaugh came on in 2008 and got involved in personnel. From 2009 til present we have had one pro-bowler when prior to the coach being involved in personnel, we averaged a pro bowler every two years and never went 3 in a row without one. With the loss of scouts and the inclusion of Harbaugh in personnel decision we clearly have an issue with talent evaluation. From drafting (where we have failed) to players on the team, our talent evaluation has been atrocious lately.

[ellicottraven]

I am in a daze with our roster moves all season. I can't seem to figure out the reasoning behind a lot of these moves. We IR a par player with a sub-par replacement and sometimes a sub-par player with another sub-par replacement....

[bioLarzen]

Sure, but Magee was also the 4th RB, so he's inactive on gameday as well.

 

So we swapped one player who would have been inactive for another.

 

What's the fascination with Butler anyway? If we promote an OL or DL from the PS and he's inactive, nobody ever says anything about that?

 

OK, but then you admit you were wrong about having an open roster spot anyway, right?

 

I don't see a fascination with Butler - it just seemed weird that he was apparently promoted just to be inactive, thats all. and of course we all realize this may be an absolutely logical and right decision, because we may not know all the reasons and circumstances that make it so. It just SEEMS weird.

[Ravensfansince03]

LOL, needless to say, I'm going to go ahead and trust the judgment of the people who are paid millions to do this job and have done it successfully for a long time over the guy on the forum who says "I've always had an eye for talent".

 

I rank this right up there with the guy who thinks being a CEO of a billion dollar company is easy and anybody can do it...

 

Yea and those people who are paid millions have us 1-6 right now. Just because there getting paid millions to do a job doesn't mean that there are people out here that cannot do the same thing just because there not getting paid millions for it.

 

You shouldn't think so low of yourself. What they do doesn't take a degree in rocket science. Just saying

 

And for your information, they don't get paid millions. We actually have 1st year scouts right now. So where did you get the information that "they have done it successfully for a long time".

 

Get your facts straight then come back and talk to me

Edited October 29, 2015 by Ravensfansince03