[News] What You Missed vs. Cardinals

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Another look at the final offensive play. Upshaw commands line of scrimmage. Mosley doesn’t give up.

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[Barry S]

IMO in the games I have watched this year the home team seems to get the favorable no calls and penalty calls. It's like when the replacement refs were officiating the games when the regulars were on strike, the only difference is there are a lot more penalties called.

[Bobby]

The refs are soooooo bad. We are not a great team this year - but we have been totally screwed on several occasions that have cost us wins....so sick of the NFL and the refs!

[salamander]

Garrett, this week is worthy of a follow up article, "What the Refs Missed vs Cardinals"

[Bat-mite]

Score was 26 - 18, not 28 - 16. Let's not make it worse!

Edited October 28, 2015 by Bat-mite

[RavenManiac#7]

The "fired dart" that you claim Joe could have thrown to Gilmore would have had to have been thrown Before Gilmore made his cut and looked back for the ball because Joe had two rushers coming at him hard and fast, one from his left front and one from his right front. Yeah, he might have been able to get the fired dart off but Gilmore would have had to find it, while it was in flight, the split second he turned his head to look for the pass. And, it being a "fired dart", it would have gotten to him really fast. So fast, in fact, that I think it doubtful he could have saw it, grabbed it, and held onto it. I think the shove by the defensive back was much more of a factor in the play. That shove prevented Gilmore from going towards the ball and gave the defender the momentum to get behind Gilmore enough to catch the pass. Sorry, but I just can't put that one on Joe. He, accurately, picked up on the blitz, thus realizing that his 6' 6" TE had single coverage by an 8" shorter defender, and tried to take advantage of the mis-match. He couldn't have anticipated the defender's shove on Gilmore. Actually that shove could have, at least arguably, drawn a flag. I think this play was just yet another instance of the way things have gone for us this year.

[SmashMouth7]

Flacco should have thrown it between the goal post out of bounds then waited next play for a clean throw

[EliteRavens]

The Refs are so bad that I'm at a loss of words.

[SmashMouth7]

But what I missed was when the ravens won the game, I keep watching it on DVR to catch that. I'm inviting the players over to watch tape since Ray and Ed gone.

[NCMan]

Score was 26 - 18, not 28 - 16. Let's not make it worse!

Stuff like that is very typical of his and the other two musketeers. They can't ever seem to write a professional article. If it's not written by John or Kevin, expect the story to resemble something written by a novice, not a pro. The least they could do is proof read their stuff. Even then, I don't think they are capable of finding all the typos, omitted words, etc. I usually just scan over their "articles" and go on to read the boards. If never gets any better, so I guess their bosses just don't care. You have to admit it, though, that getting the correct score is tough. 

Edited October 28, 2015 by NCMan

[callahan09]

I don't think Flacco could have thrown a "dart" because of the unblocked pass rusher. Had he thrown the dart at the time he threw his lofted pass, Gillmore wouldn't have been able to turn around and find the ball by the time it got to him. Had Flacco waited another second to when it would have been the right time to throw that dart, he would have already been sacked (and the game over). It was a single-cover by the safety with a HUGE size mismatch in favor of Gillmore, the throw was the right decision, and at this point we're just nitpicking. The real problem seems to be that for some reason after Gillmore turned around to look for the ball he didn't know where it was. You can see him looking at Joe, and he has no clue that the ball is already in the air (pretty high up in the air, so I guess he'd have to be looking upwards to see it). By the time he spots the ball in the air he has already ran too far to the left side of the field rather than up the field and towards the ball's trajectory. Just a missed opportunity, he didn't see the ball and therefore got off track for where he should have gone to go get it. The push in his back certainly didn't help.

[riseNConquer81]

Flacco said he didn’t want to leave the ball short of the end zone, but he could have fired a dart to Gillmore at the goal line rather than lofting the pass off his back foot.

except throwing darts off one's back foot is impossible...

especially with two free running blitzers in your face

Edited October 28, 2015 by riseNConquer81

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Its Official: We are now the WORST TEAM in the league. What are we doing about it? Changes must be made, doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results? Insanity

[birdseye]

RiseNConquer81 Flacco can make that bullet pass lying on his flat back... absolutely ludicrous that you think that is a difficult throw for a professional quarterback to throw, if you can't throw a bullet pass six yards no matter what the circumstances are you're not in the NFL, plain and simple. Would it have been a perfect bullet pass made easy? probably not, but its a much easier pass than that lob ball and much more effective

[Barry S]

It's obvious watching that replay that Joe makes very poor decisions under pressure, he is not a fast thinker. With 2 defenders blitzing free his best option would have been to throw the ball away, if that were the last play of the game I could accepted it but he could have had one more chance if he had just gotten rid of it!!

[January J]

The "fired dart" that you claim Joe could have thrown to Gilmore would have had to have been thrown Before Gilmore made his cut and looked back for the ball because Joe had two rushers coming at him hard and fast, one from his left front and one from his right front. Yeah, he might have been able to get the fired dart off but Gilmore would have had to find it, while it was in flight, the split second he turned his head to look for the pass. And, it being a "fired dart", it would have gotten to him really fast. So fast, in fact, that I think it doubtful he could have saw it, grabbed it, and held onto it. I think the shove by the defensive back was much more of a factor in the play. That shove prevented Gilmore from going towards the ball and gave the defender the momentum to get behind Gilmore enough to catch the pass. Sorry, but I just can't put that one on Joe. He, accurately, picked up on the blitz, thus realizing that his 6' 6" TE had single coverage by an 8" shorter defender, and tried to take advantage of the mis-match. He couldn't have anticipated the defender's shove on Gilmore. Actually that shove could have, at least arguably, drawn a flag. I think this play was just yet another instance of the way things have gone for us this year.

that's the way I see it as well.

[riseNConquer81]

RiseNConquer81 Flacco can make that bullet pass lying on his flat back... absolutely ludicrous that you think that is a difficult throw for a professional quarterback to throw, if you can't throw a bullet pass six yards no matter what the circumstances are you're not in the NFL, plain and simple. Would it have been a perfect bullet pass made easy? probably not, but its a much easier pass than that lob ball and much more effective

oh im sorry: i was under the impression that you wanted him to actually hit the receiver. I didnt know accuracy wasnt a concern for you. my bad.

Edited October 28, 2015 by riseNConquer81

[riseNConquer81]

It's obvious watching that replay that Joe makes very poor decisions under pressure, he is not a fast thinker. With 2 defenders blitzing free his best option would have been to throw the ball away, if that were the last play of the game I could accepted it but he could have had one more chance if he had just gotten rid of it!!

yeah, throw the ball away from inside the pocket and get an intentional grounding call resulting in a loss of down, a yardage penalty, and a 10 second run off. Brilliant.

[PurpleReigning]

I don't even see the debate. It wasn't a great throw. And on top of that, it's the same thing you just tried in the end zone against the Broncos. Flacco, and Trestman in particular are too freaking predictable. If we at home know what they're going to do, what do you think guys who get paid millions to study tape are going to come up with? Red zone, Gillmore in the slot, empty set, what do you think is going to happen? The whole thing is telegraphed, which is poor.

[merryjman]

I am still pretty baffled by the refereeing in that game. I'll grant that blaming the refs for a loss is a loser move, but there are three plays that made a really big difference: the fumble, the CJ2K run, and the Urschel pass. Pretty egregious mistakes.

[Fastynart]

Two crap calls from the officials and the Ravens don't have the talent to overcome them. That pass from Flacco was the same kind of crap pass that killed us in the Denver game. How many times is he going to just throw the ball up for grabs before he learns not to? Just ridiculous. Flacco still makes these kinds of poor decisions. Excuse makers want to blame the refs or Gillmore, but that is bs. Mosley is our best defender. Although Upshaw had a great game against the run, he couldn't cover his grandmother out of the backfield. He won't be here next year because some idiot team, like Miami did with Ellerbe, will offer him more than he is worth.

[Tdot.to.Bmore]

i swear if the first play on Sunday is a pass out to JUICE i will boycott the season and make it my goal to get Trestman fired. How is the first play in both first and second half of most of our games the same play. Its sad when Jon gruden points that out on MNF.

[20306cab]

What I missed (for the seventh time this year) was decent QB play for the Ravens.

[ravenstime]

I agree, a lot of our plays seem basic, compared with the likes of Pitt., and Arizona, and even Cleveland. We are ULTRA-Conservative when it comes to passing. We'll have the 4 and 5 yard completions but aren't hitting on 15 yards and deeper or trying them as often as I hope we would. Most teams like to avoid 3rd downs as much as possible. We seem to want to use every down we can get before moving the chains, including a few penalties along the way. I'm pretty sure Flacco is having an off year and the fans here are making sure that everyone thinks about it too. Several times this year, Flacco has air-mailed a few passes, some are INT's and some are not, but the post office would like to get a hold of him, as he's so good at it when it's not really a good thing for a QB to be associated with. I don't know if he's hoping he's lucky or what but he needs to hit our guys without lobbing so much.

No?

[HayintheBarn]

If it weren't for the refs, every team would be tied for first in their division with an undefeated record.

[johnnypurple]

the more i look at that last offensive play, gilmore is open on the slant, not deep. total misread by flacco. He waited too long

[Bat-mite]

Stuff like that is very typical of his and the other two musketeers. They can't ever seem to write a professional article. If it's not written by John or Kevin, expect the story to resemble something written by a novice, not a pro. The least they could do is proof read their stuff. Even then, I don't think they are capable of finding all the typos, omitted words, etc. I usually just scan over their "articles" and go on to read the boards. If never gets any better, so I guess their bosses just don't care. You have to admit it, though, that getting the correct score is tough. 

It could be the bosses giving them quick deadlines with no opportunity to proofread.  Anyway, a second set of eyes will usually catch most of this stuff.  I'd volunteer. 

[burnbigben]

yeah, throw the ball away from inside the pocket and get an intentional grounding call resulting in a loss of down, a yardage penalty, and a 10 second run off. Brilliant.

 

Dude. Not when you throw it out the back of the endzone. Would be the 1st time in history, QBs do it all the time.  Just throw it 10 feet over his head and live to play the next down.

[riseNConquer81]

Dude. Not when you throw it out the back of the endzone. Would be the 1st time in history, QBs do it all the time.  Just throw it 10 feet over his head and live to play the next down.

they had 13 seconds left, two backup OLs in the game, and a 5 wide spread of practice squad receivers.

you say "live to play the next down," i say "delay the inevitasble."

Throwing the ball out of the back of the endzone there doesnt help us win the game, this is the mootest point ever.

[riseNConquer81]

I don't even see the debate. It wasn't a great throw. And on top of that, it's the same thing you just tried in the end zone against the Broncos. Flacco, and Trestman in particular are too freaking predictable. If we at home know what they're going to do, what do you think guys who get paid millions to study tape are going to come up with? Red zone, Gillmore in the slot, empty set, what do you think is going to happen? The whole thing is telegraphed, which is poor.

if you guys actually paid attention to teams and the plays they run through out the season, you'd think eveveryone was "predictable."

if you understand the game, you know there're only so many different things you can do to begin with. Nobody calls 40 unique plays per game every season....