[News] Late For Work 10/27: 8 Crazy Things That Have Happened To Ravens This Season

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I want Dumervil on the team next year too. That rumor is crud....

[Minionhunter]

Florio is a rumor monger and is a paid NBC employee. Kraft runs all the TV contracts and owns Florio by extension. It is no wonder his site is filled with hit pieces on the Ravens and puff pieces on the Patriots. Part of the Patriots media cancer. 

[Minionhunter]

Steve Smith Sr and Dumerville rumors were started by Florio. 

[Minionhunter]

Someone said Flacco can't throw to the left, so defenders are swarming the right side of the field. but I  think it is that Steve Smith Sr is mostly running on the right. He has thrown bombs in the left. Just this season no one decent runs the left so who can he throw to there? 

[purplejay91]

Oh how i miss Ray and J.O...just what this team needs. A LT and some heart

[Ravens8383]

If the Ravens had the number one pick I wouldn't be surprised if its traded.

[ravensnj]

Just looked into a 2016 mock draft. Looks weak on WR's.... figures.

[Zeus]

How did the ref miss urschel ? He's 300 pounds and was 5 feet away from him? He needs to be fired

[coreyadams]

Trade Joe Slac

[Puntit]

Trading Doom doesn't make sense at all -- we have him locked up for a few more years, he can totally be a building block. SSS however has already committed to retiring at year's end so he won't be part of our rebuilding. If he could be made amenable to a trade, he could net us a pick that could actually help in 2016. SSS, for all his efforts, only makes us good enough to lose later in the game.

[RavenManiac#7]

I pray that our FO could not Possibly make the mistake of not re-signing or, better yet, extending Justin Tucker. If the FO is too cheap to pay him what he's worth, then put the franchise tag on him, but do NOT let him get away. Actually, the tag would be a stupid move really. All it does is cause hard feelings by the player towards the team. Make him the highest paid kicker in the league, if that's what it takes, because that's what he is and this team should want him here, and want him here feeling happy. He is the best player on this team and it's most valuable one as well. Get this man signed. The sooner the better. Extending Yanda was a Great move. Getting Tucker locked up long term is an even Better move. That's how important this is. Just look at how many games end so close on the scoreboard. We NEED this man on our team. Get it done, Ozzie!

[Puntit]

Just looked into a 2016 mock draft. Looks weak on WR's.... figures.

Ozzie isn't gonna pick another WR early anyhow. (He can't pick 'em in round 1 anyhow.) It's going to be heavy on pass rushers and secondary in the first few rounds.

[rmcjacket23]

Ozzie isn't gonna pick another WR early anyhow. (He can't pick 'em in round 1 anyhow.) It's going to be heavy on pass rushers and secondary in the first few rounds.

Agreed. Veteran WR via FA/trade, draft for pass rushers and secondary players.

[rmcjacket23]

I pray that our FO could not Possibly make the mistake of not re-signing or, better yet, extending Justin Tucker. If the FO is too cheap to pay him what he's worth, then put the franchise tag on him, but do NOT let him get away. Actually, the tag would be a stupid move really. All it does is cause hard feelings by the player towards the team. Make him the highest paid kicker in the league, if that's what it takes, because that's what he is and this team should want him here, and want him here feeling happy. He is the best player on this team and it's most valuable one as well. Get this man signed. The sooner the better. Extending Yanda was a Great move. Getting Tucker locked up long term is an even Better move. That's how important this is. Just look at how many games end so close on the scoreboard. We NEED this man on our team. Get it done, Ozzie!

I'm not concerned about this at all. I see no reason to think Tucker won't be here for the foreseeable future.

[RavenManiac#7]

Just looked into a 2016 mock draft. Looks weak on WR's.... figures.

After what has happened with Perriman, and considering Ozzie's pathetic history of drafting wrs, I think Ozzie is going to be very reluctant to look for them in the draft. He'll probably look to fill other weak spots and go back to hoping to pick up wr help LATE in the draft. That's just my guess. For what it's worth, if we wind up with a top 5 pick in the draft, I would think it probable that Ozzie would trade down, which I think would be yet another huge mistake. Please don't misunderstand that last sentence. I am NOT implying he made a mistake drafting Perriman in the 1st rd in the last draft. I'm in the minority on here that still think Perriman has the potential and the skills to be a #1 receiver in this league. Nobody, and I mean, NOBODY, can predict injuries. I just think Ozzie was foolish for not having a "plan B" in the event that Perriman Did get injured. If we've learned anything from this Perriman situation, it's the fact that Ozzie did Not have a back-up plan. So, we're stuck watching every team we play dismiss the possibility of us stretching the field. Diggs in the 5th rd is what Ozzie should have done, instead of Tray Walker. Bad decision there.

[harfordravenfan]

I know Flacco isn't surrounded by amazing talent, but his deep throws this year have been off. I can remember in the Denver, Oakland, Cleveland, and now the Arizona game where Flacco missed a open WR deep for a TD.

 

Not sure why the negs? (I one upped ya)

 

should only help make the renegotiation of his contract easier and some high picks to help the team

[RavenManiac#7]

Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Mississippi or  Laremy Tunsil, OT, Mississippi. Nkemdiche is stud in the Suh mold. Tunsil locks up the LT spot for the next 10 years. Personally, I think Bosa is a little overrated and he's more of a 4-3 DE - not a good fit in Baltimore.

 

But would love to see the Ravens trade back a few spots and get CB Jalen Ramsey. However, I think the Ravens are a better team than some of the other bottom feeders so I highly doubt that we get the #1 overall.

I don't know much, anything actually, about these guys you mention, but I do know one thing. If this guy, Tunsil, is as good as you say, "locks up the LT spot for the next ten years", I like the sound of that because Monroe just HAS to be improved on. We have a lot of weaknesses, but really good LTs are extremely hard to find or come by. And Monroe is SO injury prone, and he's weak when he's on the field as well. LT is the most important position on the OL, and we need a serious upgrade there. I hate the thought of continuing on with Monroe penciled in as our starter there. I have to believe that there is Some team out there that is weak at LT and would be willing to give Monroe a try. He might be an upgrade for Somebody because, just like QBs, good LTs are a rare commodity. Monroe's not good, but in Some teams' eyes he might be an improvement over what it has. I sure hope, though, that we can find someone a lot better than he has turned out to be. He's been a BIG disappointment. There's others, of course, but he's a glaring one.

[RavenManiac#7]

The 9th crazy thing that have happened to the Ravens this season.... Win a game against the Steelers at Pittsburgh.

I really hate to say this, but that one win in Pittsburg was, actually, a gift from Tomlin and Suisham.  Who would have ever thought that Any Squealers would want to give Any gift to the Ravens?!!? Go figure!

[ReginaldColeman1]

The safest thing to do in the draft is secondary and linebacker. They can wait on the interior line. They could replace KO with someone less costly. Defense has to be bolstered. Stock with talent. If they can find a decent WR in the third round they'll be on the right track. And find a business manager to take over the job of Moriarity and DeCosta. There's too much inbreeding and follow the leader.

[law215]

My concern is the Ravens ability to use and value what they have. Gilmore is a 6'6' 270lb monster, but they do not feature him except in the red zone when everyone expects to throw to the him. he should 8 catches a game.

[RavenManiac#7]

Anyone see when Marlon Brown dropped that pass from Flacco. Coach Harbaugh put his butt on special teams on the very next play. Now that was good coaching.

Yeah, I agree. It's just a shame that it has taken so long for Harbaugh to resort to this kind of action. It's long past the time that he should have been holding his players to a higher degree of accountability. I hope that Brown is an inactive for the next game and that Jeremy Butler is given a chance to show what he can do. Harbaugh should have, by now, instituted fines for some of the most bone-headed and team hurting, stupid penalties that So many players have committed so frequently. These guys just Have to be held more accountable and learn that if they're not going to think when they're on the field and play with an acceptable level of self control, then it's going to cost them, both with playing time and in their wallets. With the playoffs out of the question now, we should be focusing more of our attention on finding out just what Every player brings to this team moving forward rather than placing All of our attention on winning. And, believe me, I NEVER would have thought that I would ever say something like that. I am just now convinced that, in the long run, and, even as soon as next year, refocusing our efforts in that direction would better serve the future of this team. We are in definite need of rebuilding, and in order to do that as quickly as possible we simply Must determine the talent level of Every player on this team. We have to find out who we want to keep as building blocks and who it's time to part ways with.

[RavenManiac#7]

Can't imagine why Marlon Brown is still playing on this team. Smith, Givens, Aiken, Ross and the TE's should be enough. It looks like Boyle was a steal in this draft. He could be our #1 TE.

I agree with you on your assessment of Marlon Brown. There should not be a roster spot on this team for him. He simply drops too many passes and is not good enough to be an NFL receiver. He's a practice squared at best. I can't agree with you, though, that the receivers and the TEs should be enough. I think Joe needs and deserves a better receiving corps than that. Hopefully, next season Perriman will prove himself to be what a lot of people on here still think he can be. But SSS will be gone. I think we will still need to upgrade our wrs, hopefully with a Proven free agent or two who really Do have some gas left in their tanks. We don't want any more Evans, Whosyourmamas, or such. Sorry, but I still think Joe does not have adequate weapons. He has no play-makers or game changers and has never, Ever had a true #1. I would just Love to see what he could do with a Good receiving corps instead of practice squaders, other teams' castoffs, late round draft choices, and over the hill free agents.

[ravensnj]

After what has happened with Perriman, and considering Ozzie's pathetic history of drafting wrs, I think Ozzie is going to be very reluctant to look for them in the draft. He'll probably look to fill other weak spots and go back to hoping to pick up wr help LATE in the draft. That's just my guess. For what it's worth, if we wind up with a top 5 pick in the draft, I would think it probable that Ozzie would trade down, which I think would be yet another huge mistake. Please don't misunderstand that last sentence. I am NOT implying he made a mistake drafting Perriman in the 1st rd in the last draft. I'm in the minority on here that still think Perriman has the potential and the skills to be a #1 receiver in this league. Nobody, and I mean, NOBODY, can predict injuries. I just think Ozzie was foolish for not having a "plan B" in the event that Perriman Did get injured. If we've learned anything from this Perriman situation, it's the fact that Ozzie did Not have a back-up plan. So, we're stuck watching every team we play dismiss the possibility of us stretching the field. Diggs in the 5th rd is what Ozzie should have done, instead of Tray Walker. Bad decision there.

Amen.

[Puntit]

After what has happened with Perriman, and considering Ozzie's pathetic history of drafting wrs, I think Ozzie is going to be very reluctant to look for them in the draft. He'll probably look to fill other weak spots and go back to hoping to pick up wr help LATE in the draft. That's just my guess. For what it's worth, if we wind up with a top 5 pick in the draft, I would think it probable that Ozzie would trade down, which I think would be yet another huge mistake. Please don't misunderstand that last sentence. I am NOT implying he made a mistake drafting Perriman in the 1st rd in the last draft. I'm in the minority on here that still think Perriman has the potential and the skills to be a #1 receiver in this league. Nobody, and I mean, NOBODY, can predict injuries. I just think Ozzie was foolish for not having a "plan B" in the event that Perriman Did get injured. If we've learned anything from this Perriman situation, it's the fact that Ozzie did Not have a back-up plan. So, we're stuck watching every team we play dismiss the possibility of us stretching the field. Diggs in the 5th rd is what Ozzie should have done, instead of Tray Walker. Bad decision there.

I actually think if someone wants to give up too much to get a high pick Ozzie should absolutely trade down. We aren't one high draft pick from contention. If the choice is to end up with one stud WR versus two or three pretty solid defensive players, it's a no brainer. Trade out of that high spot for that late first, second and third. Make that deal every day of the week, There are plenty of QBs out there with stud WRs who haven't got a ring. Stafford, Ryan, Cuttler , Romo all have had better targets than Flacco and none has a ring. It's about an entire team not a player and frankly the grind 'Em out lunch pail guys often get you rings while the Dez Bryants tend not to.

Never play the "look who we could have picked" game. Every team in the league could have had Tom Brady throwing to Antonio Brown. You have to have faith in your scouting and stick with your board. Stefan Diggs etc might not have thrived on this team any better than Doss or Clayton or some of the other WRs we've drafted. He's the right guy for the right system, a system that, by the way, only works for Diggs because Walker draws away the coverage. without a Walker across from him Diggs might as well be Aiken.

And you can't really fault Ozzie for injuries. All teams have their entire season dependent on one or two position players not ending up on IR. Most teams don't have as much of a plan B if they lose their QB as we do, some end up in turmoil if they lose a key OL or their RB. We happen to not be as deep at WR, pass rusher or CB, and are facing key injuries at all those positions. A lot is because of salary cap, dead money, and having been plundered each season by teams willing to overspend. But I see nothing wrong with a team that plans on Perriman and SSS as starters, and guys like Camp and Aiken as depth. it's absurd to focus on what would really be your plan D (not B ), which is guys like Buttler and Ross as your WR, but such is life, if you have multiple injuries at a position you get stuck. We lost multiple WR, corners, OLBs already this year. I don't see how that's on Ozzie when on paper everyone thought his initial starting lineup ought to be a contender. We topped the power rankings during tge offseason. Now we are close to the bottom, time to focus on next year, I think.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Puntit

[shiri2]

idk what happened to Marlon Brown...his first season, he was ballin' with us. But now, he's like another Jacoby Jones...you don't know if he's gonna catch the ball or not, or if he does catch it, will he hold on to it after contact. Most of these defensive guys don't seem to be disciplined, and they don't seem to be sure of where they're supposed to be when lining up. Jimmy Smith seems to be trailing in coverage in a lot of situations, and Webby should be released at the end of the season...he looks awful! He misses too many tackles, is always trailing in coverage, and is not a hard hitter. He hit one of the Cardinal receivers and didn't budge him...he only succeeded in getting kinda' shook up himself. Anyone else notice this about him?

[Ravensfansince03]

Yeah, I agree. It's just a shame that it has taken so long for Harbaugh to resort to this kind of action. It's long past the time that he should have been holding his players to a higher degree of accountability. I hope that Brown is an inactive for the next game and that Jeremy Butler is given a chance to show what he can do. Harbaugh should have, by now, instituted fines for some of the most bone-headed and team hurting, stupid penalties that So many players have committed so frequently. These guys just Have to be held more accountable and learn that if they're not going to think when they're on the field and play with an acceptable level of self control, then it's going to cost them, both with playing time and in their wallets. With the playoffs out of the question now, we should be focusing more of our attention on finding out just what Every player brings to this team moving forward rather than placing All of our attention on winning. And, believe me, I NEVER would have thought that I would ever say something like that. I am just now convinced that, in the long run, and, even as soon as next year, refocusing our efforts in that direction would better serve the future of this team. We are in definite need of rebuilding, and in order to do that as quickly as possible we simply Must determine the talent level of Every player on this team. We have to find out who we want to keep as building blocks and who it's time to part ways with.

 

Couldn't have said it any better man

[Ravensfansince03]

idk what happened to Marlon Brown...his first season, he was ballin' with us. But now, he's like another Jacoby Jones...you don't know if he's gonna catch the ball or not, or if he does catch it, will he hold on to it after contact. Most of these defensive guys don't seem to be disciplined, and they don't seem to be sure of where they're supposed to be when lining up. Jimmy Smith seems to be trailing in coverage in a lot of situations, and Webby should be released at the end of the season...he looks awful! He misses too many tackles, is always trailing in coverage, and is not a hard hitter. He hit one of the Cardinal receivers and didn't budge him...he only succeeded in getting kinda' shook up himself. Anyone else notice this about him?

 

Im telling you guys man!!!!!!! As good as a player that Steve Smith is, I really think that he knocks our young receivers off focus. For us watching it on TV and seeing him making a catch then getting fired up is cool, but imagine being a young man in the NFL and your constantly hearing a guy loud mouthing at other players, fans, and other things. Then to top it off, saying childish things to the press/cameras in the locker room after a loss. In my opinion that would have other players minds off focus.

 

You guys can disagree with me, but the Panther called him a "Locker Room distraction". But PLEASE do not misunderstand me, I appreciate everything Steve is doing for this team, he is a great athlete. But Im not going to ignore the fact that MAYBE he really is distracting some of our other players from the task at hand.

 

So let the NEGGING BEGIN!!!!

 

Sometimes it seems like Steve is trying to add his own Ray Lewis type of appeal to this team, but it just isn't rubbing off well. For instance early on in the season when Steve announced it would be his last season, I said to myself "Bad Timing!!"

 

And I must disagree with you on Webb & Smith. The majority of the problems I've been seeing on our back end is due to poor play from our safeties.

Edited October 29, 2015 by Ravensfansince03