Offseason Moves....

[BMoreDuck]

With a lot of glaring issues on this Ravens squad it's time to get over this season and think about the future. The Ravens are playing themselves into a top 5 pick so at least that's some exciting news. Question is, where do you go with a top 5 pick with so many holes? Does Oz go old school and try to build a formidable D again? Does he try and get stout in the trenches? Does he get a dynamic playmaker for Joe? Perriman is an absolute mystery and thus far a bust. He was the biggest boom or bust pick in the 1st round and so far he's been the latter. I know he hasn't played a down yet in professional football, but that's the problem. Will he ever be healthy? With the FO being so hush-hush it makes me believe his injury is more serious than speculated. With a top 5 pick these are the guys I would target if I was Oz(no particular order)...

1) DE- Joey Bosa(Ohio St)

2) DE- Robert Nkemdiche(Ole Miss)

3) DB- Jalen Ramsey(Florida St.)

4) LT- Laremy Tunsil(Ole Miss)

5) LT- Ronnie Stanley(Notre Dame)

6) CB- Vernon Hargreaves III(Florida)

7) WR- Lequon Treadwell(Ole Miss)

These are the names that are, in my opinion, all worth a top 5 pick. Bosa would give us a stout, edge setting, pass rushing presence on the edge. Nkemdiche is a beast as well, but I'm still not completely sold on him. I question his motor at times, but when he's on, he's really on. He could end up being a Hall of Famer or he could just be another good football player. I think he's worth a top 5 pick. I could also see him dropping a little. Ramsey could be an immediate impact guy in a very vulnerable injury-prone secondary and his diversity could land him at safety or corner. Both Tunsil and Stanley are franchise left tackles in my opinion. I don't think Monroe is as bad as some think he is, but for a franchise QB to succeed you need a franchise left tackle and Monroe is not that. Plus, he's a liability.

You can't have instability at the blindside or you're going to find your multi-million dollar QB in the dirt or pressured way too much as we've seen with Joe and Monroe this season. I miss the days of watching the greatest left tackle to ever play in the NFL. If Tunsil or Stanley could be 70% of what Ogden was then we'd be good to go. Monroe needs to be replaced and the two names I've mentioned would be good gets. On to Hargreaves.

Vernon is undersized, but he makes up for it with his dynamic play. We have a taller, physical corner in Jimmy so I'd be fine with a guy like Hargreaves who can stay on the hip of any receiver you put in front of him. Then there's Treadwell. Oz really seems to have bad luck with receivers, but he would have to strike gold eventually. Right? As I mentioned before, Perriman is a mystery so should Oz go get a dynamic playmaker in Treadwell? Can Joe finally have a young, big, physical, fast(fast enough) playmaker to get the ball to? Again, I'd be cool with Treadwell in the top 5.

Ideally, I'd like the first five guys I mentioned over Treadwell, but if that's who Oz did decide to go with, I'd be cool with it. like to see him try and make a splash in free agency and get a receiver who is young and a big playmaker. Alshon Jeffery comes to mind. He is going to be a free agent and I'd like to see Oz make a move for him. Will he have the cash? Maybe, maybe not, but Jeffery has proven to be a true #1 receiver. He's had a few 1000 yard seasons and that was with Cutler throwing him the ball. We need that type of production and target for Joe. Alshon is young and a proven stud.

Another free agent I'd like to see Oz pursue is Von Miller. With Suggs wearing thin due to injuries and Doom in his last years, it would be nice to get a beast pass rusher in his prime. Miller is good for double digit sacks and he brings more to the table than just being an explosive rusher. He's a good all around LB. Unfortunately, the money probably won't be there for either of thesemantic two, but if Oz can download a large chunk of the roster to free up some cap then those are the two names I'd like to see him pursue in free agency. Other names in the draft I'd like to see Oz pursue if the Ravens somehow win enough games to put themselves in the mid to late 1st round are...

7) DE- DeForest Buckner(Oregon)

8) OLB- Leonard Floyd(UGA)

9) OLB- Darron Lee(Ohio St)

10) CB- Kendall Fuller(Va.Tech)

11) CB- Tre'Davious White(LSU)

12) S - Sua Cravens(USC)

13) OG- Vadal Alexander(LSU)

14) OG- Cody Whitehair(KSU)

15) DE- Adolphus Washington(OSU)

16) WR- Michael Thomas(OSU)

17) WR- Tyler Boyd(Pitt)

18) DE- Emanuel Oghba(Okl.St)

Agree/disagree? Who are names you'd like to see as a top 5 pick? Who are some free agents you'd like to see the Ravens pursue? What offseason Moves would you like to see?

Edited October 27, 2015 by BMoreDuck

[Sami84]

you want a dream ? Here it is

 

We draft bosa

 

Flacco takes a paycut (among other cuts etc dead money gone) and we get von miller

 

we trade back into the late first round and bring in kendall fuller with the 26th-27th pick.

[Cillmatic]

you want a dream ? Here it is

We draft bosa

Flacco takes a paycut (among other cuts etc dead money gone) and we get von miller

we trade back into the late first round and bring in kendall fuller with the 26th-27th pick.

That ain't happening.

[Ravens2343]

Draft Ramsey or Hargreaves after trading back a couple spots if we land the #1 pick.

 

Extend Flacco and try and sign Tucker long term

 

Ty to re-sign Osemele and Givens

 

Cut Kendrick Lewis, Webb (only if we draft Hargreaves or sign a F/A), Canty and Daryl Smith

 

Sign Sean Spence (ILB), Tashaun Gipson or a potential cut corner like Keenan Lewis based on who we draft and Vincent Jackson when he is cut

 

Draft:

 

#1 Ramsey FS

#2 Ogbah OLB

#3 Demarcus Robinson WR

#4 OL

[Sami84]

I'm torn between Ramsey and Bosa.

 

If we can bring in Aldon Smith or pull off a blockbuster for von miller I'm all for ramsey.

 

I think long run ramsey is the best FS in the league.

[ravensfan520]

If we sign Flacco to an ext... any thoughts of drafting Prescott in the later rounds bring in a qb coach and teach him the ropes until we can turn it over to him... with the right coaching he could be a steve mcnair type guy. If we do get the first pick or a top 3 pick... we can add weapons via trading out and getting someone like Shaq Thompson or fuller and/or maybe a ball hogging wr.

[edthehead]

inside the top 5, I would trade back to 10 maybe at the latest 15, get another 1 WR, DO NOT let SSS retire (plus he will train up the young wr),, keep givens ,camp,waller and maybe aiken,,, A true 1 will solidify our offense .. 

     1 Treadwell , 2 SSS, 3. Perriman ,,,, the following year  treadwell and perriman as 1 and 2 then factor in camp and givens as our slot and return,,think about it ,,,max,crockett,treadwell perriman and waller,,,thats a big front to catch the ball,,

we can go all defense later 

[Jamal]

If we sign Flacco to an ext... any thoughts of drafting Prescott in the later rounds bring in a qb coach and teach him the ropes until we can turn it over to him... with the right coaching he could be a steve mcnair type guy. If we do get the first pick or a top 3 pick... we can add weapons via trading out and getting someone like Shaq Thompson or fuller and/or maybe a ball hogging wr.

Will he be willing to learn the ropes for 5-6 years?

[BMoreDuck]

If we sign Flacco to an ext... any thoughts of drafting Prescott in the later rounds bring in a qb coach and teach him the ropes until we can turn it over to him... with the right coaching he could be a steve mcnair type guy. If we do get the first pick or a top 3 pick... we can add weapons via trading out and getting someone like Shaq Thompson or fuller and/or maybe a ball hogging wr.

Shaq Thompson was in last years draft.

[usmccharles]

I'm torn between Ramsey and Bosa.

 

If we can bring in Aldon Smith or pull off a blockbuster for von miller I'm all for ramsey.

 

I think long run ramsey is the best FS in the league.

Im with you on Ramsey, i think he is a playmaker and can bring explosiveness back to the secondary. 

 

You should forget the von miller thing, it will not happen for two reasons.  1) Denver will not let him get to FA 2) if he happened to get to FA he would command an insane amount of money, which we do not have

 

I really want Oghba.  I think this guy has something...

[BmoreBird22]

you want a dream ? Here it is

We draft bosa

Flacco takes a paycut (among other cuts etc dead money gone) and we get von miller

we trade back into the late first round and bring in kendall fuller with the 26th-27th pick.

For once, I agree with Sami, so much

[JoeyFlex5]

you want a dream ? Here it is

 

We draft bosa

 

Flacco takes a paycut (among other cuts etc dead money gone) and we get von miller

 

we trade back into the late first round and bring in kendall fuller with the 26th-27th pick.

sutton >>>> fuller

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm torn between Ramsey and Bosa.

 

If we can bring in Aldon Smith or pull off a blockbuster for von miller I'm all for ramsey.

 

I think long run ramsey is the best FS in the league.

bosa vs ramsey and bosa wins by a landslide imo, and im a ramsey fanboy. 

 

where im torn, is bosa vs stanley/tunsil. i would hate to be the guy to make that call. 

 

if im torn on ramsey against anyone, its nkemdiche. i think nkemdiche is the top talent in this draft but i just dont know if we can take such a luxury at this point, DT/DE is the one position that we are good at, but nkemdiche looks like a truly rare breed...

[Cillmatic]

Fuller is overrated IMO. Sutton, White, and Apple look better.

Edited November 7, 2015 by Cillmatic

[PurpleCity5]

I agree with some of the people above, I like Sutton better than Fuller.

[BmoreBird22]

If I'm evaluating Fuller (I've seen every game he's played), I'm going more off of 2013 and 2014, which paint a much brighter picture for him. 

[GrimCoconut]

If I'm evaluating Fuller (I've seen every game he's played), I'm going more off of 2013 and 2014, which paint a much brighter picture for him.

I like Fuller quite a bit but I do think you could be biased here. Not saying I even disagree with you, mind you.

[BmoreBird22]

I like Fuller quite a bit but I do think you could be biased here. Not saying I even disagree with you, mind you.

I definitely think I'm biased, but I at least have the luxury of watching all his games and meeting him to get a feel for who he is

[PurpleCity5]

bosa vs ramsey and bosa wins by a landslide imo, and im a ramsey fanboy. 

 

where im torn, is bosa vs stanley/tunsil. i would hate to be the guy to make that call. 

 

if im torn on ramsey against anyone, its nkemdiche. i think nkemdiche is the top talent in this draft but i just dont know if we can take such a luxury at this point, DT/DE is the one position that we are good at, but nkemdiche looks like a truly rare breed...

I'm going Bosa all the way and I think the Ravens will too. Monroe has some durability problems but I'm certain Biscotti will be pounding the table for an edge rusher, especially one young and as talented as Bosa. 

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm going Bosa all the way and I think the Ravens will too. Monroe has some durability problems but I'm certain Biscotti will be pounding the table for an edge rusher, especially one young and as talented as Bosa. 

he may want an edge rusher, but i almost think he would have to defer to ozzie in this case, bisciotti is no dummy and he knows the value of a LT.

[PurpleCity5]

he may want an edge rusher, but i almost think he would have to defer to ozzie in this case, bisciotti is no dummy and he knows the value of a LT.

We have a contengency plan at LT, granted Monroe doesn't stay healthy but he can play, while no one outside of Suggs and Doom can. I frankly don't see us passing on Bosa for anyone.

[JoeyFlex5]

We have a contengency plan at LT, granted Monroe doesn't stay healthy but he can play, while no one outside of Suggs and Doom can. I frankly don't see us passing on Bosa for anyone.

what is this contingency plan you speak of... because james hurst, if im not mistaken, has been historically bad for the past 2 years, like he has put on one of the all time worst performances 2 years in a row. thats not a contingency plan

[PurpleCity5]

what is this contingency plan you speak of... because james hurst, if im not mistaken, has been historically bad for the past 2 years, like he has put on one of the all time worst performances 2 years in a row. thats not a contingency plan

I meant Monroe is the contingency plan. He's our LT to say the very least. We paid him his money to be a $35M left tackle for us and there's no way he'll be traded, regardless if we draft Stanley or not. With Edge, we don't have that, we used to with McPhee, but that was until he left, now we don't have anyone that can rush the passer as a fill in for Suggs who can take over for the future. That's my main reasoning as to why I'm taking Bosa. 

 

You can argue we could sign an OLB in FA and take Stanley, that would be my preference but if we don't do anything at OLB in FA and go into the draft with the same guys that we have than I frankly don't see us passing on Bosa. 

[PolishRifle]

I meant Monroe is the contingency plan. He's our LT to say the very least. We paid him his money to be a $35M left tackle for us and there's no way he'll be traded, regardless if we draft Stanley or not. With Edge, we don't have that, we used to with McPhee, but that was until he left, now we don't have anyone that can rush the passer as a fill in for Suggs who can take over for the future. That's my main reasoning as to why I'm taking Bosa. 

 

You can argue we could sign an OLB in FA and take Stanley, that would be my preference but if we don't do anything at OLB in FA and go into the draft with the same guys that we have than I frankly don't see us passing on Bosa. 

 

That's not a contingency plan. The only "good" LT we have is Monroe, who can't stay healthy, while we don't have any depth behind him. That's the exact same situation, that we are in with our passrushers. We have Suggs and that's it.

The main difference is, that Suggs is still great. Monroe has only been doing an okay job so far.

 

Right now, I would be leaning towards Bosa as well, just because he seems to be a better talent than Tunsil or Stanley, but it's not by much. I actually start to really like Stanley quite a bit.

[PurpleCity5]

That's not a contingency plan. The only "good" LT we have is Monroe, who can't stay healthy, while we don't have any depth behind him. That's the exact same situation, that we are in with our passrushers. We have Suggs and that's it.

The main difference is, that Suggs is still great. Monroe has only been doing an okay job so far.

Right now, I would be leaning towards Bosa as well, just because he seems to be a better talent than Tunsil or Stanley, but it's not by much. I actually start to really like Stanley quite a bit.

That is in my mind compared to what we have at edge rusher, we have almost nothing there with Suggs out. Also, I love Sizzle but who knows how good he'll be coming back from another achilies tear. I still believe he'll make an impact but how much? Also, Monroe can't stay healthy, but we're stuck with him reguardless, he will still be our starting LT. If we don't sign a pass rusher than if Im the GM, It would be hard to convince me to go with LT over Edge with no one outside of Doom and Sizzle to rush the passer.

FWIW, If we do sign an edge rusher, then I'm all for picking Stanley over Bosa.

[JoeyFlex5]

I meant Monroe is the contingency plan. He's our LT to say the very least. We paid him his money to be a $35M left tackle for us and there's no way he'll be traded, regardless if we draft Stanley or not. With Edge, we don't have that, we used to with McPhee, but that was until he left, now we don't have anyone that can rush the passer as a fill in for Suggs who can take over for the future. That's my main reasoning as to why I'm taking Bosa. 

 

You can argue we could sign an OLB in FA and take Stanley, that would be my preference but if we don't do anything at OLB in FA and go into the draft with the same guys that we have than I frankly don't see us passing on Bosa. 

i dont see us passing on bosa either lol, im just saying that its not an easy decision to make and if i were put in that position id be sweating bullets lol. 

 

truthfully i hope all of them are taken so that we have to take ramsey, i think he is the savior of this team and we wont have a chance to find a FS of his caliber probably for another decade at least, while players like bosa come and go seemingly every year. 

[PurpleCity5]

i dont see us passing on bosa either lol, im just saying that its not an easy decision to make and if i were put in that position id be sweating bullets lol. 

 

truthfully i hope all of them are taken so that we have to take ramsey, i think he is the savior of this team and we wont have a chance to find a FS of his caliber probably for another decade at least, while players like bosa come and go seemingly every year. 

Oh yeah, you're totally right, its not an easy choice to make. 

[RavensFanMania]

That is in my mind compared to what we have at edge rusher, we have almost nothing there with Suggs out. Also, I love Sizzle but who knows how good he'll be coming back from another achilies tear. I still believe he'll make an impact but how much? Also, Monroe can't stay healthy, but we're stuck with him reguardless, he will still be our starting LT. If we don't sign a pass rusher than if Im the GM, It would be hard to convince me to go with LT over Edge with no one outside of Doom and Sizzle to rush the passer.

FWIW, If we do sign an edge rusher, then I'm all for picking Stanley over Bosa.

I would rather take Bosa over Stanley because you can never have too many edge rushers.  Dumerville AND Suggs are up there in age and I don't care what they do in free agency, if the player is rated higher than we should draft him.  I favor pure bpa over bpa based on team needs.

[ravensfan520]

Shaq Thompson was in last years draft.

My bad on the Shaq Thompson...