[News] Ravens React To Questionable Referee Calls

[designermaryland]

No matter what bad calls there are, they are a symptom of bad play. If 4 guys are not standing watching BW tackle johnson, he never gets up. Lazy ball watching there no matter if he had his momentum stopped. You have to know to have to play beyond 100%, like the players on both sides of the ball are doing. Ross should protect the ball, instead of coughing it up. If he holds it securely, non-point. The Urschel call was horrendus as anyone on the field could see he reported eligible. I said Urschel tackle eligible pass before the play when he was motioning. But you have to have the will to make up for that and do it again on the next play. This team just does not play hungry, or angry or with any hint of emotion. It is borderline embarrassing to witness this year.

[Bigjon5477]

And what about the call on Webb (hook and turn) BS! That was a Great Play!

[Ravensfolyfe]

How many times have this happened too us...hmmm.

[bmoraven]

Last night was really Bad, and almost Sad for the Ravens. I give them credit for not giving up. We should be filing official complaints with the NFL.

[RavenManiac#7]

No matter what bad calls there are, they are a symptom of bad play. If 4 guys are not standing watching BW tackle johnson, he never gets up. Lazy ball watching there no matter if he had his momentum stopped. You have to know to have to play beyond 100%, like the players on both sides of the ball are doing. Ross should protect the ball, instead of coughing it up. If he holds it securely, non-point. The Urschel call was horrendus as anyone on the field could see he reported eligible. I said Urschel tackle eligible pass before the play when he was motioning. But you have to have the will to make up for that and do it again on the next play. This team just does not play hungry, or angry or with any hint of emotion. It is borderline embarrassing to witness this year.

You make very good points. And it's been going on all season long. Your last point, about the team not playing hungry, angry, or with any hint of emotion, I believe, is directly accountable on the coaches. Particularly the HC. It is Their job to have the players motivated and ready to play. To be honest, it's a shame that it has to be that way. The players, themselves, should play with that inner fire, ala SSS. But, if our FO continues to provide the type players that do not play with emotion themselves, then, yes, it falls onto the coaches to light that fire and motivate their players to give their full effort. And, unfortunately, our coaches don't seem to have the ability to do that. So, as far as I'm concerned, shame on the emotionless players, and shame on the coaches for being unable to do anything about it.

[caw710]

These calls were not just questionable, they were pathetic and inexcusable. After much review, all three of these calls were WRONG. But it's a dead horse. We suck, and Harbs and Ozzie better get it fixed. I hear people saying we can get a good draft pick next year, What good is that, they will just fall down a set of steps or blow out there knee in camp.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

3 calls man not just 1 but 3 that's totally unacceptable I wonder how the Pats and their fans would react to 3 muffed calls by the refs? Heck they cheat to win but if they played and honest game and 3 bad calls happened I bet it would be front page news all across the U.S.

[rmcjacket23]

3 calls man not just 1 but 3 that's totally unacceptable I wonder how the Pats and their fans would react to 3 muffed calls by the refs? Heck they cheat to win but if they played and honest game and 3 bad calls happened I bet it would be front page news all across the U.S.

Well, they've had three bad calls go against them (probably in every game actually) and then they'd probably still win the game.

 

They are good and we are not. Teams that are good rarely complain about the refs, because they're too busy winning games.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Well, they've had three bad calls go against them (probably in every game actually) and then they'd probably still win the game.

 

They are good and we are not. Teams that are good rarely complain about the refs, because they're too busy winning games.

I was trying to be sarcastic because we both know two different times the Pats had questionable things surrounding their team then they went on to have a winning season and three times if you want to count the way they substituted their players in last years playoff win against the Ravens making new rules come down from the owners meetings.  Yet all is ok with the Pats according to their fans and most sports writers. I think all NFL teams have had bad calls go against them as a matter of fact I am sure of it  however all 3 calls that went against us last Monday night were serious calls. 1. When Urshal was seen by everyone except the ref and it would have been excellent field position 1st and goal I believe. 2.When Johnsons forward progress was clearly stopped but no it became a 60 plus yard run and first and goal to go for the Cardinals and we both know if a Raven player would have teed-off on Johnson as he was on Williams chest motionless and knocked him to the turf it would bring a flag and a hefty fine from the NFL for the Raven player. and finally 3. the fumble by Ross was his knee down? I am a Hommer but you have to admit pretty darn close before the ball even started to move. My point was Mcjacket23, when was the last time you saw that many critical calls go bad or very questionable at best against a single team? I will give you that they had 3 bad calls go against them and still won I will be willing to say that about all 32 teams my point is like I asked before how many major game changing or momentum changing calls have you seen in a game that are all questionable at best? Honestly man how can you not complain about the refs when its this blatant? I do understand what your saying but I am sure you can some what see where I am coming from.

Edited October 29, 2015 by ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

[rmcjacket23]

I was trying to be sarcastic because we both know two different times the Pats had questionable things surrounding their team then they went on to have a winning season and three times if you want to count the way they substituted their players in last years playoff win against the Ravens making new rules come down from the owners meetings.  Yet all is ok with the Pats according to their fans and most sports writers. I think all NFL teams have had bad calls go against them as a matter of fact I am sure of it  however all 3 calls that went against us last Monday night were serious calls. 1. When Urshal was seen by everyone except the ref and it would have been excellent field position 1st and goal I believe. 2.When Johnsons forward progress was clearly stopped but no it became a 60 plus yard run and first and goal to go for the Cardinals and we both know if a Raven player would have teed-off on Johnson as he was on Williams chest motionless and knocked him to the turf it would bring a flag and a hefty fine from the NFL for the Raven player. and finally 3. the fumble by Ross was his knee down? I am a Hommer but you have to admit pretty darn close before the ball even started to move. My point was Mcjacket23, when was the last time you saw that many critical calls go bad or very questionable at best against a single team? I will give you that they had 3 bad calls go against them and still won I will be willing to say that about all 32 teams my point is like I asked before how many major game changing or momentum changing calls have you seen in a game that are all questionable at best?

Well, first starters, the last two calls described I had no problem with. There is no possible way to prove forward progress and where it stops. If I were an official, I wouldn't call that play dead either. And as far as the fumble goes... I can't tell you how many hundred times we've seen incredibly close plays like that (and no, it wasn't clear cut) be upheld based on whatever the on-field call was. It's gone for or against this very team many times in the past, and nobody ever questions it when it goes for us.

 

Yes, they botched the illegal substitution penalty. But then again, if that happened in a game that didn't involve the Ravens in an exact same manner, would you consider it "critical"? 

 

Its "critical" because it happened to our team. If something becomes less critical because it no longer affects us, its hard for me to buy it as critical to begin with.

[Baller MD]

Story of our season, if it's not one thing it's another. It's sad when every single time we make a nice play the only thing that goes through your mind is " man I hope there's no flags " or " alright where's the flag this time..." ...it shouldn't be like that. Not only that but it's like they've got it completely backwards and when there's a blatant call to make that's plain as day they fail to See it. Ofcourse when you see the flag thrown after a big play from the other team it gets mysteriously picked up.

It may seem like sour grapes and it's really no excuse- but it certainly doesn't help.

 

Man you nailed that - I thought I was the only one to felt this way.  It's gotten to the point where on every play where we gain nice yardage or 1st down (when we finally get one), I'm biting my nails hoping and praying that no flag comes out.  Because you just know if the flag flies it's going to be against our offense...  Same feeling when the D is on the field.  Listen, I know some of our players are making clear, idiot mistakes this season, but a lot of times, the refs are just simply too "flag happy" when it comes to our team. 

[Baller MD]

Good teams overcome bad red calls. Good teams play so well, that they can win regardless. We are a not a good team. Our entire team basically sucks, outside of Tucker, from Flacco on down. If it didn't, we wouldn't be 1-6. And in all honesty, we should by all rights be 0-7. This is not "playing like a Raven", and Harbaugh claims it is, then he needs to go.

 

We should be 0-7?  Hmmm, let's turn that around...   We just as well should/could be 7-0 right now too or at least 4-3.  In each game, it came down to the last play.  One clutch play made "here" - one bad call NOT made "there", and we'd have won more of these games.

 

But everyone (Ravens fans at that) keep defecating all over our only "win" simply because a Pittsburgh player messed up.  Well, what about our players (and those refs) that messed up in the games we lost?  The outcome could have been different had they not screwed up - or do these little "should have/could have" scenarios only work for giving away the only win that we got?

Edited October 29, 2015 by Baller MD