The Good, the bad and the ugly vs Cardinals

[Dr. Kelley]

Those fake end arounds to Ross have to stop. Gives me shades of Cam's obsession with using Stallworth in that way. It was effective the first time and then it was just a waste the next 30 times.

Thank you for saying this. I kept thinking I saw the ghost of dante stallworth on the field but I just chalked that up to Halloween

[DenverRaven]

Flacco and his back foot lobs have cost us in 2-3 games this year. Dude doesn't have it between his head.

 

This is a playcalling/personnel issue. No OL, no big recivers, no good play calls in these situations. Joe just lobs it hoping for the best. I'm not going to crucify him for it, he's the reason we were in it on the last drive. It's a bigger problem than just his lobs.

[A Fish Called Yanda]

That was in response to John's presser where he claimed the Ravens would be writing their own story!

 

Lol yeah I know.  That's the title of the story we're writing.

[Sami84]

Why is it that it seems not a single OC has trusted Flacco to call his own plays? Not a single one...

 

low football IQ. Always been an issue with him..

 

with flacco you keep it simple..sadly you can only keep it simple with talent on Offense.

 

this is why he must take a paycut or take a hike to cleveland for a bucket of picks.

[Ravens4Real]

Our first round pick is going to be an OLB or future LT. You can write that one in stone.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Our first round pick is going to be an OLB or future LT. You can write that one in stone.

Damn straight. Would love either

[BmoreBird22]

he was v good last year in 6 games

 

in 2013 he was ok..hardly anything special..ok..as in middle range.

Okay as in a top 32 starter and then played lights out in 2014. He sustained a Lisfranc injury. That's not exactly easy to come back from. 

UPenn found that the average time to return from a Lisfranc injury is 11 months, with most ranging between 9 to 15 months. That's just to return to playing. Pretty sure Jimmy returned in seven months. 

[A Fish Called Yanda]

Our games have been so close this year that you can't help but think that one player could have changed out entire season.

[ratedr]

I hate the back foot lobs but Crockett didn't even try. That's what happens when you have no reliable guys in the RZ.

 

As for Trestman, he's decent, but I wouldn't cry if he left. He can't call a 2 min drill, is obsessed with the dump off, and loves the throwaway run on first down.

[Dr. Kelley]

That is soooooo last week dude. They weren't lackidasical this week.

One of the many reasons you are one of my favorites

[FlocksGottaFeed]

I would like to know what Steve Bisciott is thinking right now! He must not be a very happy owner right now. It is hard to figure out this Ravens team. 

 

But, in any case, I think some moves are impending. Most likely there will be a movement of coordinators for sure. I won't be surprised to see Pees replaced by one of the line coaches.

He's thinking..."This is some some kind of flukey curse or something. Nothings going right. We're losing close games. Everybody is going down with injuries and I don't have a clue to how I can fix it.

(Phone rings. He takes call.) "We're still soldout for this season, right?" "Cool." and cut to next 9  games.

[BmoreBird22]

Agree with this. Kubiak basically said he wanted to simplify the offense for Flacco after the bye last year.

 

Either Flacco just doesn't have the IQ to do it or it's coming down from Harbs.

I think it has to do with his comfort level in the offenses. Why would you let someone call their own plays if they don't feel comfortable in the offense when the OC is calling the plays? That's just an issue with four coordinators in four years.

[Sir Spooky]

I hate the back foot lobs but Crockett didn't even try. That's what happens when you have no reliable guys in the RZ.

 

As for Trestman, he's decent, but I wouldn't cry if he left. He can't call a 2 min drill, is obsessed with the dump off, and loves the throwaway run on first down.

I don't think he knew where the ball was. 

[Sami84]

Okay as in a top 32 starter and then played lights out in 2014. He sustained a Lisfranc injury. That's not exactly easy to come back from. 

UPenn found that the average time to return from a Lisfranc injury is 11 months, with most ranging between 9 to 15 months. That's just to return to playing. Pretty sure Jimmy returned in seven months. 

 

6 games isn't enough in my opinion combined with a bad injury for anyone to warrant a big contract.

3 very good seasons = big contract

2 good seasons mixed in with bad injury and some bad seasons = average contract.

[PurpleCity5]

I'm not impressed with the defense. They played up to half of the talent they have. I'm fairly disappointed in this DLine and secondary. Communication continues to be a problem, Its ridiculous, the one thing every defense needs to have down is communication. I seriously cannot stand the fact that we cannot missed tackles. Its annoying! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm frustrated.

Edited October 27, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Tru11]

Why is it that it seems not a single OC has trusted Flacco to call his own plays? Not a single one...

 

the ``constant factor`` argument does not count for flacco you know that.

[BmoreBird22]

6 games isn't enough in my opinion combined with a bad injury for anyone to warrant a big contract.

3 very good seasons = big contract

2 good seasons mixed in with bad injury and some bad seasons = average contract.

What's your contingency plan, though? The Ravens pass defense fell off a cliff without Jimmy and we've seen injuries take a toll this year. What's the backup plan?

[DomMcRaven]

This wasn't the start to my birthday I hoped for but like I said...we're going to be so good with Bosa or Ramsey next year.

I can relate. The loss to the Pats in the playoffs last season was on mine. 

[Sami84]

What's your contingency plan, though? The Ravens pass defense fell off a cliff without Jimmy and we've seen injuries take a toll this year. What's the backup plan?

 

cap room.

 

there are better corners..prince amukamara better than jimmy for instance.

[ratedr]

Pees fan club has arrived. He still needs to go. If anything this game confirmed that the defense has been playing below their talent level all year, which falls on coaching.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing all of the coaches on both sides of the ball canned.

[sflegend89]

As a former HS quarterback I can tell you first hand that LT is one of the most important positions not just on offense but on the entire team. If your LT is getting beat like a drum it's near impossible to run any plays that require a developing route which is probably why we stuck to the run/quick passing so much tonight. At least when your RT is leaking pressure you can see it and step up in the pocket and buy a few extra seconds, they call it the blindside tackle for a reason, it's extremely hard to sense the pressure coming in on that side as a right handed QB and it totally ruins your rhythm and confidence throwing intermediate/long routes when you don't trust your LT.

 

Basically every strip sack or bad int I've ever thrown came from a blindside rusher, Flacco doesn't trust Monroe and neither does Trestman and for good reason. I really can't overstate how important that LT spot is for a right handed QB, besides the QB himself it might just be the next most important position on the entire team.

Edited October 27, 2015 by sflegend89

[January J]

I hate the back foot lobs but Crockett didn't even try. That's what happens when you have no reliable guys in the RZ.

As for Trestman, he's decent, but I wouldn't cry if he left. He can't call a 2 min drill, is obsessed with the dump off, and loves the throwaway run on first down.

yeah he didn't see the ball when it was first thrown. If he did he could have aggressively attacked it and had a chance.

Harbaugh said headphones were going out on the final drive. Just one more thing to add to the list of bad luck, if something can go wrong with us, it will.

Edited October 27, 2015 by January J

[Sami84]

oh and drafting better too

 

 

ozzie is past his prime at that.

 

tray walker..lol

[RaineV1]

I don't want Trestman to go, but at the same time I wouldn't be mad if he was fired. His play calls at time are very questionable. At the same time, we need continuity, four offensive coordinator is just a lot on one guy, too many coaches shifting in and out.

I want him gone, but I want him replaced with someone that isn't likely to jump at the first HC job he can get.

[jazz1988]

low football IQ. Always been an issue with him..

 

with flacco you keep it simple..sadly you can only keep it simple with talent on Offense.

 

this is why he must take a paycut or take a hike to cleveland for a bucket of picks.

 

Actually far beyound true. I would say 2013 was the year where Flacco was given alot of control to make his own calls even in the super bowl he did it. I actually have seen Flacco audible and check out of plays in Marc Trestman offense especially in tonight game.

[ratedr]

4 games without a defensive takeaway...longest streak in franchise history.

[ravensdfan]

Why is it that it seems not a single OC has trusted Flacco to call his own plays? Not a single one...

Perhaps because outside of Cam they've all only lasted one year? You think?

 

Was one of the big issues with Cam. Can't really say if Kubiak did or not because you didn't see all that sideline calling during a 2 min drill when he was here.

 

It isn't that I expect a new OC to waltz in and hand Flacco the control. I expect Harbs to make sure it happens during 2 min drills.

[January J]

So many of the negative things stand out when you lose. Had we won half of this stuff wouldn't even be brought up. That's the way it is though.

[ratedr]

Did I say Monroe sucks already?

 

If I didn't, let me say it: Monroe sucks. Huge disappointment. Another bad extension.

 

Soooo many bad contracts/extensions it's laughable really.

[ravensdfan]

Actually far beyound true. I would say 2013 was the year where Flacco was given alot of control to make his own calls even in the super bowl he did it. I actually have seen Flacco audible and check out of plays in Marc Trestman offense especially in tonight game.

Not talking about being able to check out or audible out of this play into the 2nd play. Talking about his calls, his game. Period. Yes, he's been able to check out of plays for a while now. Not the same thing though.