The Good, the bad and the ugly vs Cardinals

[FerrariFan87]

I've never seen more incompetent refereeing in all my years of watching professional and college sports. It was comical. I mean, seriously, how do these clowns have jobs?

 

The good: Umm, SSS?

 

The bad: The defense, again. And the refs.

 

The ugly: Game-changing, momentum-swinging PR fumble by Ross. That's where we lost the game. Though I still believe that his knee was down before the ball was stripped...

[PurpleCity5]

Good left tackles are drafted in the top 10 of the first round.  Hurst wasn't even drafted.   He is probably decent for undrafted tackles.  The way it is looking we will have a chance to get a top tackle in the draft if we choose.   

Thats the thing, he's not even average, decent, below average or shaky, he's terrible. I think we can still do better at back up LT. 

[Ravens_rule247]

We do have a cap and we have given big money to stars. Maybe not consistent stars but this team spends close to the cap. We had a lot of guys end their career as Ravens, so to say we have "NO" loyalty is not fair. I think it is more of a thing where we can not pay everyone, so sometimes you have to let guys go. Most players are not willing to give a hometown discount to us.

I would agree with most of what you said; however, WHERE IS OZZIE?  Why should Harbaugh have to keep explaining our lack of productivity by himself?

[Edgar]

Sad to say, but that was the best all-around game the ravens have played.

Monroe...what a disappointment this guy has been.

I think Joe sometimes has his mind set in crunch time situations and loses track of his responsibility to see certain blitzes. I think after eight years, the opposition have this spotted.

He absolutely can not miss givens deep. No excuse for this routinely happening and as unfair as it seems, he needs to be darn near perfect given what he has to work with.

Givens showed twice that he can get behind a defense. More snaps .

[January J]

Nfl just admitted that the officials made a mistake on the ineligible/ eligible play last night. No punishment is expected.

[sharkh20]

No one ever talks about how bad our run game is. Every week it's "They need to run to open up the pass", and every week it's been just the opposite. Until the offense sees that the pass game opens up the run, they will struggle early in games.

Probably because our pass game is essentially a run game.  They all go to someone who is either behind the LoS or 1 yard past it.  We only throw passes more than 7 yards through the air maybe 5 times a game.

[FerrariFan87]

Nfl just admitted that the officials made a mistake on the ineligible/ eligible play last night. No punishment is expected.

Well, they'll get "downgraded" which will hurt their chances at refereeing in the playoffs... that crew last night was abysmal.

[PurpleCity5]

I thought Webb played a good game. 

[Drew P]

Canty had a good game and Buck needs more carries

[Purple_City39]

WHERE IS OZZIE???  This is ALL on him.

 

6 lost games and OZZIE is missing in action.  It was his genious that walked Tory Smith, Anquan Bouldin, Jacoby Jones, and Haloti Ngata to the exit door.  If I were John Harbaugh I would stop addressing the press and tell them to drag OZZIE out to the stage for answers about our crappy season.  You can't win games without STARS and you cannot have STARS unless you are willing to pay for them. Generally, OZZIE has been a good manager but the organization shows little loyalty to their STAR players.  Look how long we've had the franchise and compare that to the small handful of Ravens that started AND ended their careers as Ravens.  We have NO loyalty and now we are paying for it.

Besides the fact you clearly have no understanding of the salary cap, the following Ravens have received a top 5 contract for players at their position, when they signed the deal, over the last 20 years

 

Jonathan Ogden

Ray Lewis x2

Jamal Lewis

Ed Reed

Marshal Yanda x2 (active)

Joe Flacco (active)

Terrell Suggs (active)

Haloti Ngata (active)

Ray Rice

Todd Heap

Dennis Pitta (active)

Lardarius Webb (active)

Jimmy Smith (active)

 

Everyone with "active" next to their name is still being paid by the Ravens one way or another.  Justin Tucker, C.J. Mosely, and Brandon Williams will join this list shortly.  Baltimore isn't cheap and are always next to the cap

[ashoganesyan]

If every call in every game is going against us, the core of our team is injury plagued, and we are still within a score of every game we have played (most of them away) then I think things will be ok. Literally any fluke play possible happens against this team, the Browns guy catches the ball with his balls, CJ gets stopped but the refs for some reason think there is still forward progress, Dalton throws random touchdowns that somehow his receivers get, refs call ineligible receiver when our man CLEARLY signaled his eligibility to the ref, I mean anything that can possibly go against this team is doing so this season, and I am not even talking about the injuries and complete overhaul of personnel. I mean we have had a different offensive coordinator almost every year! we don't have single receiver except Smith who can cause any sort of seperation, the defense is inconsistent. What I am trying to say is that in the face of ALL of this every game has been close, every game has been decided on a play or two, every game we had a chance to win and I guess thats what makes this harder. But at the same time I am not worried, there are seasons like this and thats ok, because if we are playing this way when everything is against us, then this team is gonna be special when everything comes together. And hey theoretically there is still a chance to make playoffs, we are only 3 games back of the Steelers and we have the head to head away win and the season isn't even half way done. So until there is no more mathematical chance to make it, I still believe just like the coaches. And a lot of people are saying the coaches are dumb and dont make it a big deal, but its because they know we are so close in every game and if a few plays start going our way, we can easily win 5 or 6 in a row, and that can change this season around. 

[DomMcRaven]

I think the biggest issue with this offense last night was Monroe and Aiken.  Aiken led the team in snaps at WR and couldn't get open worth a damn, he was a total waste of space on the field.  He also did a horrible job picking up blocks and didn't pick up hot reads, either.  He is just a bad receiver, that he is our #1 receiver in snaps this year is absolutely pathetic.  And Monroe was ATROCIOUS.  He couldn't block to save his life.  How often was Flacco running for his life or getting sacked because Monroe was just a turnstile (if he was even that effective at slowing down the pass rusher)?  There were plays where Monroe might as well not even have been on the field.  In fact, Flacco's blind side was protected better on the final drive of the game when Monroe was out due to injury.

 

When your blind side tackle is playing that bad and your #1 receiver in snaps is that useless, and your running game is only getting like 3 yards per carry, and your punt returner coughs up the ball costing you a drive and making you play from behind in the 2nd half, then it becomes a perfect storm of *really difficult* to get anything going on offense, so I don't personally really think Trestman is too much to blame for the stalled drives we had in the 2nd half when Monroe was useless, Aiken was useless, the run game was useless, and we were playing from behind. That's tough to overcome.

Well said. However, I still believe that the returner was down, but it is what it is. It's amazing with all of the problems this team has, we're still competitive.  

[BSHU_Miami]

No one ever talks about how bad our run game is. Every week it's "They need to run to open up the pass", and every week it's been just the opposite. Until the offense sees that the pass game opens up the run, they will struggle early in games.

this so much, the receivers and Joe have to be on point in the pass game then we can gash them with Justin and buck... However out pass game takes forever to get underway...like until we're down 14... But I agree

[Static]

They were blitzing and stacking the box constantly .

 

They knew our line doesn't hold and our receivers don't get open.

[Purple Punishment]

He threw A ball that Gilmore had every chance to get bit didn't. That wasn't on joe he couldn't take a sack and had no time to plant and his feet. Learn more about football

Is it never Joes fault now?

[ravensdfan]

Is it never Joes fault now?

No it just isn't always his fault like everyone likes to make out.

 

He had no time to plant his feet and couldn't take a sack there. He put it up knowing he had a 6ft 6" TE there in the end zone. Gilmore COULD have made that catch - I've seen other TEs make ones with way worse passes, but he didn't. He's young. I still like Boyle better for his fight.

[hawkprey]

this so much, the receivers and Joe have to be on point in the pass game then we can gash them with Justin and buck... However out pass game takes forever to get underway...like until we're down 14... But I agree

That's because we run all this underneath crap. And use play-action that fools no one. When Joe is in shotgun we're pretty good.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

The thing I have a question about is when Chris Johnson was wrapped up by Williams at what point is forward progress stopped causing the player to be considered down? Johnson was on Williams chest for at least 3-5 seconds and not going anywhere. Just my opinion the Refs blew that call. Johnson was clearly not down but his forward progress was stopped PERIOD!!! We all know if another Raven player would have hit Johnson while he was on Williams chest it would have been a personal foul on the Ravens for a defenseless player or roughing a player. The play just upset me because the refs should have blown it dead after that long of no movement or forward progress by Johnson.

[GrimCoconut]

I'm done being upset over a clearly biased officiating crew. It's all good. I'm not even mad. We've benefited at times in the past and got calls to go our way because we were the home team.

That said, I do think these refs have it out for us. Please don't write this off and let me explain. See, we've been an undisciplined group this year and we've earned, imo, probably extra attention that comes from officials as a consequence. They're likely watching us closer because of our reputation and history of lack of discipline.

That's just how it goes sometimes and it's up to the team to fix this reputation.

Edited October 28, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[hawkprey]

As sucky as it is to lose, I have to admire the players actually stepping up. The DBs played great after a shaky start. Everyone on defense had their moment. Allen, Steve Smith and Gillmore showed that they were tougher than the defenders. The team overall played better as the game went on.

 

Unfortunately, the circumstances were just stacked against us. Overlooking the botched officiating, we ended the game missing about half our starters against a team that has virtually no starters injured until one of their CBs got hurt. Away on a Monday night is just a really rough spot to be in with all that.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

For the most part I am happy with how the guys played last night. I am not happy about the loss but for the most part the guys really played their hearts out.

[Nicky-B]

The idiotic types of things that have happened to the Ravens this season are typical. Bad calls always seem to go against the teams with the losing record. In my opinion our secondary needs to go back to tackling basics of wrapping up and not giving yards after a catch. Can't tell you how many times I've seen defenders just trying to bump the guy out of bounds or take his feet out only to miss and have him go for a first down and beyond. 

 

Our receivers DO NOT get separation (Steve Smith Sr being the exception) which limits Flacco's choice of where to throw and we need a better pass rush.

[Static]

Been a while since Ive seen Canty play like that.

 

 

Buck Allen needs more carries .

 

 

 

 

                    CAR    YDS    AVG     TD     LONG

Justin Forsett    12     36      3.0        1     14

Javorius Allen    3       25     8.3         0     15

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2015102600/2015/REG7/ravens@cardinals#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000566728&tab=videos&analyze=boxscore

Edited October 27, 2015 by Static

[Tru11]

I'm done being upset over a clearly biased officiating crew. It's all good. I'm not even mad. We've benefited at times in the past and got calls to go our way because we were the home team.

That said, I do think these refs have it out for us. Please don't write this off and let me explain. See, we've been Ann undisciplined group this year and we've earned, imo, probably extra attention that comes from officials as a consequence. They're likely watching us closer because of our reputation and history of lack of discipline.

That's just how it goes sometimes and it's up to the team to fix this reputation.

 

they probably mad cause talks suggest we started the deflate thing to get on a roll and NFL got their butt whooped in court because goodell got to power hungry.

 

interesting that both colts and ravens are terrible this season 

Edited October 27, 2015 by Tru11

[BSHU_Miami]

That's because we run all this underneath crap. And use play-action that fools no one. When Joe is in shotgun we're pretty good.

hmm.... Something we've known since his rookie year.... Go figure.

[rmcjacket23]

 

Been a while since Ive seen Canty play like that.

 

 

Buck Allen needs more carries .

 

 

 

 

                    CAR    YDS    AVG     TD     LONG

Justin Forsett    12     36      3.0        1     14

Javorius Allen    3       25     8.3         0     15

 

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2015102600/2015/REG7/ravens@cardinals#menu=gameinfo%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000566728&tab=videos&analyze=boxscore

 

So based on one week, a guy earned more playing time? 

 

He's averaged 4.9 YPC compared to 4.3 for Forsett. There's not huge difference between the two. He's certainly not making Forsett look bad.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

they probably mad cause talks suggest we started the deflate thing to get on a roll and NFL got their butt whooped in court because goodell got to power hungry.

 

interesting that both colts and ravens are terrible this season 

interesting points. Conspiracy theory's at their best....but interesting points

[Militant X 1]

The Ravens offense has no "explosive" weapons not one player (outside of Steve Smith, Sr.) to take over games and the defense is not in any shape to close out games whatsoever!

 

The results....

 

1-6

[Nicky-B]

Well, let's see "Fire Everybody" ...... my guess is that includes the owner so I can only surmise you want the team gone! NO THANKS ...... Been There, Done That. I've been watching the NFL for nearly 50 years now and a few things I've noticed. #1 They call it "Home Team Advantage" for a reason; the "zebras" seem to concur. #2 The "Zebras" also seem to call an inordinate number of calls AGAINST the teams with weaker records. I guess they didn't notice the defender pushed Gillmore prior to going up for the ending INT. Questionable calls will happen because the refs are only human but in many cases video review may remove a lot of that human factor. I personally think the Ravens hurt themselves with penalties, slow starts on offense (seems they don't get invigorated until the 4th quarter), they don't have the killer instinct, they need a speed wideout and a stronger, faster pass rush.

 

Just my opinion!

[jaege]

Well said. However, I still believe that the returner was down, but it is what it is. It's amazing with all of the problems this team has, we're still competitive.  

 

 I don't believe the returner was down. I know very well he was down.