The Joey Bosa thread

[Jacquouille]

4 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I've always said this. He's a 3/5 tech hybrid and in nickel packages we should consider implementing a 9 wide package. Him and doom lined up at the 9 would be absolutely unstoppable, both of them play low and ridiculously powerful when engaged, getting a head of steam will knock ot's over regularly

I'm sorry, I am not educated to the Xtech stuff and I don't know what a 9 wide is ^^. Well basically I get the point, but I think I didn't get it before, when you were saying it.

[L.A.Ravens]

Hope we pick Bosa up. I can see steeler fans craping  them selfs knowing Bosa will take out rohlisberger.

Edited April 19, 2016 by L.A.Ravens

[JoeyFlex5]

1 minute ago, Jacquouille said:

I'm sorry, I am not educated to the Xtech stuff and I don't know what a 9 wide is ^^. Well basically I get the point, but I think I didn't get it before, when you were saying it.

3tech is lined up between the guard and tackle but more on the guards shoulder and penetrates crashing inward on passing downs. 5tech is just on the outside shoulder of the T. 9tech is lined up on the outside shoulder of the TE or the imaginary TE

[Jacquouille]

13 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

3tech is lined up between the guard and tackle but more on the guards shoulder and penetrates crashing inward on passing downs. 5tech is just on the outside shoulder of the T. 9tech is lined up on the outside shoulder of the TE or the imaginary TE

Ok thanks for that! And I guess the 0tech is the guy in front of the C?

[KBoum]

20 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Ok thanks for that! And I guess the 0tech is the guy in front of the C?

0 tech is like Nose tackle. in a 4-3 scheme, you have your biggest DT (Williams) playing 1-tech. which means between C and G. The other is usually in 3-tech.

 

Bosa is a very good 3-5 tech guy in a Nickle, Dime defense he would be very great inside with someone like Jernigan.

 

Here's a picture to help you figure this out.

 

 

Edited April 19, 2016 by KBoum

[Ravensfan23]

59 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I've always said this. He's a 3/5 tech hybrid and in nickel packages we should consider implementing a 9 wide package. Him and doom lined up at the 9 would be absolutely unstoppable, both of them play low and ridiculously powerful when engaged, getting a head of steam will knock ot's over regularly

I've heard a ton of comparisons to Bosa. Watt which I really don't like and I myself have compared him to Suggs in this defense. However watching Bosa over the weekend, I couldn't stop thinking about Trevor Pryce. He'd have to pack on about 15-20lbs to consistently play the 5tech imo but I think he could live there. I just really love his versatility and think he'll carve out his own niche in the NFL be it with the Ravens or not. The ability to move Bosa around and allow others to get on the field as well will be huge. 

I can just envision playing a quick passing team and having Bosa and Urban rushing from the inside with those long arms blocking passing lanes. Or lining Bosa up at the 5tech to rush inside while allowing Doom a ISO on the RT. Or using that quick inside step from the DT position to run a stunt with Timmy. Bosa would allow Pees to get so creative without blitzing. He's the kind of attention grabber that make guys like Urban and Davis look better because of 1on1 match ups. 

[KBoum]

The thing I find funny is all the people who don't want the Ravens to draft Bosa because he won't fit good in a 3-4 system. How many plays are run from the typical 3-4 scheme during a game ? not a lot.

 

base defense is looking to be more and more of a nickle than anything. hybrid 3-4 is like a 4-3 and Bosa fits perfectly as well. having a good pass rush from the inside is very underated nowadays. if the QB can step in the pocket the outside rushers have a tougher road ahead

[JoeyFlex5]

55 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Ok thanks for that! And I guess the 0tech is the guy in front of the C?

Yep! It starts at 0 and then 1 is between 2 is over the guard and etc etc

[JoeyFlex5]

18 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I've heard a ton of comparisons to Bosa. Watt which I really don't like and I myself have compared him to Suggs in this defense. However watching Bosa over the weekend, I couldn't stop thinking about Trevor Pryce. He'd have to pack on about 15-20lbs to consistently play the 5tech imo but I think he could live there. I just really love his versatility and think he'll carve out his own niche in the NFL be it with the Ravens or not. The ability to move Bosa around and allow others to get on the field as well will be huge. 

I can just envision playing a quick passing team and having Bosa and Urban rushing from the inside with those long arms blocking passing lanes. Or lining Bosa up at the 5tech to rush inside while allowing Doom a ISO on the RT. Or using that quick inside step from the DT position to run a stunt with Timmy. Bosa would allow Pees to get so creative without blitzing. He's the kind of attention grabber that make guys like Urban and Davis look better because of 1on1 match ups. 

At 270 with a man's body all muscle idk if 20 lbs is necessary really. Its not like he lacks power lol. 

 

I've personally always compared him to Michael Strahan and I stand by that comparison faithfully. He may be a tad less explosive but the way they engage and disengage and then close in on the ball is identical

[Ravensfan23]

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

At 270 with a man's body all muscle idk if 20 lbs is necessary really. Its not like he lacks power lol. 

 

I've personally always compared him to Michael Strahan and I stand by that comparison faithfully. He may be a tad less explosive but the way they engage and disengage and then close in on the ball is identical

You may be right about that. Me saying adding 20 is more of me being a traditionalist, but with spread up tempo offenses there isn't much tradition in football anymore lol. 

I think his hand usage really sets him apart. People asking has this guy reached his ceiling, I'm asking how much better will he be with NFL coaching? Don't see Ramsey making it to #6, so other then Tunsil, Bosa is a slam dunk if he's there.

[Jacquouille]

10 hours ago, KBoum said:

0 tech is like Nose tackle. in a 4-3 scheme, you have your biggest DT (Williams) playing 1-tech. which means between C and G. The other is usually in 3-tech.

 

Bosa is a very good 3-5 tech guy in a Nickle, Dime defense he would be very great inside with someone like Jernigan.

 

Here's a picture to help you figure this out.

 

 

 

10 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Yep! It starts at 0 and then 1 is between 2 is over the guard and etc etc

Thx guys, it was very helpful, appreciate it!

[ALPHA]

Demarcus Lawrence is facing a drug suspension, I think Bosa is going to Dallas.

[Kinda_Dante]

32 minutes ago, ALPHA said:

Demarcus Lawrence is facing a drug suspension, I think Bosa is going to Dallas.

If that makes Ramsey fall down the board or Tunsil I'm all for it!

[ALPHA]

7 minutes ago, Kinda_Dante said:

If that makes Ramsey fall down the board or Tunsil I'm all for it!

Jacksonville could jump on that, I've heard they're in love with Buckner but who knows?

[Kinda_Dante]

I think Buckner going before us along with the two QB's would be ideal! IMO that would mean that 3 players the Ravens wouldn't draft anyways off the board!

[Jacquouille]

Honestly I want Bosa more and more, I think I really got accustomed to the idea of him in black and purple and I would be a bit sad if he doesn't fall to us.

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm now 99% sure bosa is the pick. I don't see Dallas taking him, I don't see the chargers passing on tunsil, I am sold on the jags taking jack, and I don't buy that we want buckner. Draft outlets keep mocking him to us but we have never in recent memory drafted a first rounder who we have never met with and I don't think buckner is anywhere near as high on pro scouts boards as he is in the media. 

 

Tunsil to SD, Ramsey to dal, Jack to jack, bosa to bmore. I can't think of any other realistic scenarios. 

Sd could shock us all and take Ramsey because they have shown great interest, in which case I think Dallas either takes jack or elliott, and then if they take jack then we may get screwed and end up with Buckner, but it's hard to imagine imo.

[52520Andrew]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm now 99% sure bosa is the pick. I don't see Dallas taking him, I don't see the chargers passing on tunsil, I am sold on the jags taking jack, and I don't buy that we want buckner. Draft outlets keep mocking him to us but we have never in recent memory drafted a first rounder who we have never met with and I don't think buckner is anywhere near as high on pro scouts boards as he is in the media. 

 

Tunsil to SD, Ramsey to dal, Jack to jack, bosa to bmore. I can't think of any other realistic scenarios. 

Sd could shock us all and take Ramsey because they have shown great interest, in which case I think Dallas either takes jack or elliott, and then if they take jack then we may get screwed and end up with Buckner, but it's hard to imagine imo.

If San Diego takes Ramsey and the Cowboys take Jack, we get one of Bosa or Tunsil. I don't think we can lose at this point lol

[usmccharles]

5 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm now 99% sure bosa is the pick. I don't see Dallas taking him, I don't see the chargers passing on tunsil, I am sold on the jags taking jack, and I don't buy that we want buckner. Draft outlets keep mocking him to us but we have never in recent memory drafted a first rounder who we have never met with and I don't think buckner is anywhere near as high on pro scouts boards as he is in the media. 

 

Tunsil to SD, Ramsey to dal, Jack to jack, bosa to bmore. I can't think of any other realistic scenarios. 

Sd could shock us all and take Ramsey because they have shown great interest, in which case I think Dallas either takes jack or elliott, and then if they take jack then we may get screwed and end up with Buckner, but it's hard to imagine imo.

Dallas is going to have no pass rush with LE Lawrence getting suspended, i wouldnt rule out Bosa there if Ramsey is off the board

[52520Andrew]

9 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Dallas is going to have no pass rush with LE Lawrence getting suspended, i wouldnt rule out Bosa there if Ramsey is off the board

Yeah if Ramsey is gone I think Bosa would make a lot of sense given the latest news. Dallas could always go another direction if they don't view Bosa as an edge rusher but they could also put him in a Michael Bennett type role where I think he could be effective. Jack would make a lot of sense for Dallas as well though. 

[ALPHA]

31 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm now 99% sure bosa is the pick. I don't see Dallas taking him, I don't see the chargers passing on tunsil, I am sold on the jags taking jack, and I don't buy that we want buckner. Draft outlets keep mocking him to us but we have never in recent memory drafted a first rounder who we have never met with and I don't think buckner is anywhere near as high on pro scouts boards as he is in the media. 

 

Tunsil to SD, Ramsey to dal, Jack to jack, bosa to bmore. I can't think of any other realistic scenarios. 

Sd could shock us all and take Ramsey because they have shown great interest, in which case I think Dallas either takes jack or elliott, and then if they take jack then we may get screwed and end up with Buckner, but it's hard to imagine imo.

I don't want to let my guard down and get hurt again

[usmccharles]

12 minutes ago, 52520Andrew said:

Yeah if Ramsey is gone I think Bosa would make a lot of sense given the latest news. Dallas could always go another direction if they don't view Bosa as an edge rusher but they could also put him in a Michael Bennett type role where I think he could be effective. Jack would make a lot of sense for Dallas as well though. 

Yea thats what i was thinking.  Ramsey i think is their first choice, after that anything can happen imo

[Inqui]

29 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Dallas is going to have no pass rush with LE Lawrence getting suspended, i wouldnt rule out Bosa there if Ramsey is off the board

With a pick this high you want to look at a guy you can hang onto for 10 years or more - I honestly don't think a four-game suspension to Lawrence will impact the Cowboys' board in the slightest. So if they take Bosa, I think it'll be because he was their guy all along.

Edited April 21, 2016 by Inqui

[rmw10]

29 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Dallas is going to have no pass rush with LE Lawrence getting suspended, i wouldnt rule out Bosa there if Ramsey is off the board

I think they'd be smarter to play it long term.  Pass rush is a dark hole for them now but with their recent draft history, I wouldn't expect them to panic and take a guy they don't deem as better.

[Inqui]

Just now, rmw10 said:

I think they'd be smarter to play it long term.  Pass rush is a dark hole for them now but with their recent draft history, I wouldn't expect them to panic and take a guy they don't deem as better.

I finally beat you to it.  

[usmccharles]

9 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I think they'd be smarter to play it long term.  Pass rush is a dark hole for them now but with their recent draft history, I wouldn't expect them to panic and take a guy they don't deem as better.

While i agree, i still think about Bosa isnt out of the question.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, 52520Andrew said:

If San Diego takes Ramsey and the Cowboys take Jack, we get one of Bosa or Tunsil. I don't think we can lose at this point lol

I forgot about tunsil lol. Somehow...

[52520Andrew]

4 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I forgot about tunsil lol. Somehow...

Here is hoping that 5 teams forget about him come draft night as well lol

[Edgar]

• Would anyone rather have Bosa than Tunsil, Jack, Ramsey?

[BmoreBird22]

Damn, Russell Street Report absolutely hates Joey Bosa.