[News] Eisenberg: Ravens' New Goal Is To Limit Disappointment To One Season

[BillyD]

Where's Juan Castillo when you need a really good scapegoat?

Haha!  Love it!  I think Castillo was saved by Kubiak's system.  Still seeing mistakes from the young guys though.  Except for KO, of course.  That man is a BEAST!

[BillyD]

It is true he has had 4 Coordinators in 4 years but this is the 2nd year in the same system. Explain to me why he has regressed with his mechanics? Throwing off his back foot, lobbing the ball and not seeing the field? We did have Torrey and Anquan, Jacoby, Pitta and Dickson for our Super Bowl run and we had good lineman too for that run- McKinney at LT, Yanda, Osemele, Birk, none of whom were mediocre lineman.

It's not the same system this year.  They kept the same language to make it easier, but the system is definitely different.

[b93333]

Just finished an article about Harbs quite possibly being fired at the end of the season. I for one don't think there is any chance of that nor would it be justified. At a minimum he needs a chance to see how he can recover from his first really bad season. Were I the owner... who we all know is no fool... I would be looking at our recent drafting that has left us with bust after bust in the early rounds.

[BillyD]

Well in Fantasy Football I'm gonna keep drafting QB's who are playing the Ravens. This defense has proven that it can't cover anybody, doesn't create turnovers, can't rush on pass plays and gives up at least 1 or 2 big pass plays every week. Carson's probably gonna go over 400 yds. this week.

I don't know.  The two vets we have faced in Manning and Vick didn't hit the 200 yard mark.  I think you need to be a lower level journeyman or a young QB to clear 300 against the Ravens...Palmer might not qualify for 300+...(I'm joking, of course!)

 

Good fantasy strategy, though...I might test that out myself!  Great post!

[The Mom Gene]

It is true he has had 4 Coordinators in 4 years but this is the 2nd year in the same system. Explain to me why he has regressed with his mechanics? Throwing off his back foot, lobbing the ball and not seeing the field? We did have Torrey and Anquan, Jacoby, Pitta and Dickson for our Super Bowl run and we had good lineman too for that run- McKinney at LT, Yanda, Osemele, Birk, none of whom were mediocre lineman.

I didn't say that we were mediocre.  But we are now.  And the mechanics are affected when you are "off your game" because other players cannot and do not perform.

[The Mom Gene]

Just finished an article about Harbs quite possibly being fired at the end of the season. I for one don't think there is any chance of that nor would it be justified. At a minimum he needs a chance to see how he can recover from his first really bad season. Were I the owner... who we all know is no fool... I would be looking at our recent drafting that has left us with bust after bust in the early rounds.

Link?

 

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[b93333]

Well in Fantasy Football I'm gonna keep drafting QB's who are playing the Ravens. This defense has proven that it can't cover anybody, doesn't create turnovers, can't rush on pass plays and gives up at least 1 or 2 big pass plays every week. Carson's probably gonna go over 400 yds. this week.

 

Don't bet on it... with Arizona's "D" the Ravens won't do much scoring and Palmer will play it safe.

[The Mom Gene]

The Bengals have been to the playoffs for four years in a row, so they're not drafting that high.  I am a Ravens fan but you have to give credit where credit is due.  The Bengals last four drafts have been outstanding.  And its not like they bring in big name free agents.  They don't even spend to the cap.  Their drafts have just been very deep.  They have a lot of great affordable young players because of their drafts.  And Ravens have only drafted one pro bowler in the last five years.

I'll withhold my opinion on the Bengals until I see how deep they go in January... They usually choke. And Reds is just now learning how to play with all his fancy toys....  but even those guys have taken a couple of years to grow and learn.

[The Greek]

if harbs has 2 more seasons like this than he will be fired. he deserves a few more seasons with the success he has had. i believe they will turn it around next season. marvin lewis was almost fired like 5 times from the bengals and they stuck with him with solid results these past few years.

[The Greek]

flacco has one receiver and one te he trusts and when they are not open and the other bum receivers we have cannot get open which is 95% of the time then flacco feels rushed to get rid of the ball and that is where his play gets sloppy. he just needs to take the sack or throw the ball away from now on. he is not the type of qb like brady and rodgers that can turn any receiver into a star. flacco needs proven receivers and aside from sss he has nothing. trestman deserves a mulligan this season. i want to see what he can do when  we have better receivers.

Edited October 20, 2015 by The Greek

[Tower of Power]

I guess in the preseason I, or a friend of mine, said that we have only 1 QB, 1RB, 1WR, and maybe 1 TE. That's proven too true, and the offense too shallow - specially when 3 of those are banged up. And let's not even talk about the secondary - they were torched in the preseason, and they'll be torched all season long. If our 4 (5? if ever Perriman shows up???) playmakers score 40 points we may add other wins.

[Tower of Power]

Are the DBs we have had or recently signed any better than Melvin? Gift the Patriots???

[bmorefan444]

We've had 2 bad months of football...Imagine being a redskins fan..

[Tower of Power]

Put Urschel in. We need some smarts. And someone who feels like playing too.

[Tower of Power]

Why do the playcallers forget - regularly at some point in the game - that we have TEs on the field?

[b93333]

Link?

 

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No link but it was Baltimore Beatdown... Harbaugh on Hotseat...

[FloridalovesRavens]

Wouldn't it be great if we win on MNF!!! I know you are all laughing at me but I can dream can't I? Go Ravens!

[The Mom Gene]

No link but it was Baltimore Beatdown... Harbaugh on Hotseat...

Thanks...

 

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2015/10/20/9567357/head-coach-john-harbaugh-could-be-on-the-hot-seat-by-seasons-end

[jpboechat]

One disappointment was that we didn't got Steffon Diggs, we were all excited about him yet we let him get away, and now his production is closing in on Aiken's......

[Drew P]

Put Urschel in. We need some smarts. And someone who feels like playing too.

 

The O line has come around nicely its the rest of the team that stinks

[Drew P]

One disappointment was that we didn't got Steffon Diggs, we were all excited about him yet we let him get away, and now his production is closing in on Aiken's......

 

that was a head scratcher ..speed and return skills

[Ravenshine]

True.  And it's not like he has a bunch of weapons that are working with him when the blitz comes.  Most of the time Joe is on his own and might have SSS or Forsett read the blitz and adjust.  I'm not sure the other receivers and the young TEs are able to do that.  Now that might be coaching, it might be experience, it might be a combination of the two along with other factors.  Not to mention for the 4th season in a row Joe and the gang are in a new system with a new OC. Is he perfect?  "Elite?"  I don't know.  But he's my QB, and I'm happy to have him.

Again agree 100 percent I like how you filled out the details and specifics of his 'work day'. I wanted to say more earlier but I was tired of posting so much lol, all this defending legit players gets tiring to me lol. I'll be back at it tomorrow. because I think there's just as much good to say on this team as bad. We are at 50/50 and the "do you see our glass half full or half empty" question applies. And the best half empty argument I've come across here is "who cares if we are good, if we lose the games?" That's a good argument. All I can say to that is...I keep the faith for the rest of our 10 games that we can get a lot of wins. Because I see we have the ability and we need to avoid mistakes and penalties...then we'll win those games that we previously lost by small margins.

[PalmBayRaven]

At the start of the season everyone was saying how our Offense line was a strength? Now their just mediocre? Go figure. Monroe is another one not playing up to his contract. I really just don't get why we are so bad at wide receiver. Marlon has been here 3 years, Kamar has been here a couple years why haven't we found anything they do well? There has to be something! That is a coaches job to put the players in the best possible light. We have Waller 6'6 240lbs run 4.4 40 and we have yet to really use him. That's just a waste of talent sitting on the bench. Not sure if Joe can really develope young receivers?

[Ravenshine]

I still think the Offense is our strength and the reason we're played close games. They are not mediocre...just it's like... they make 2 good plays then a mistake or penalty...or as my dad says "why did they run that play?" Type of call. So just seeing them play solid and tighter. But I think they are good. Which makes the losses sting harder.

[Pdh23]

As much as we give Ozzie credit for his drafting and picking of talent, his recent drafts have not. If we had drafted just capable players ,didn't have to be AllPro, in the recent early rounds instead of busts we have, Elam, Brooks, Perriman , A.Brown examples we would be better and wouldn't be 1-5.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I love our Ravens but I am sorry this is more than just a hiccup. We lost to the Raiders the R-A-I-D-E-R-S!!! The team fought the whole game and finally got ahead then lost. The Browns are 1 thing they always play the Ravens tough but the Raiders is just plain inexcusable. I am happy that they are working on fixing it but in all reality we need a defensive back field and more than just 1 WR that wants to play. I hope Oz is looking at both those spots on the roster for this up coming draft.

[OzzieBisciotti]

We just haven't drafted well over the past five years- it's as simple as that. That's why we pick up scrubs from other teams as soon as they get cut. That's the bottom line- if we drafted well, or picked up good FAs, then we wouldn't be here where we are today. Also, Oz needs to stop giving out big contracts to injury prone people:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/ucf-knights/os-ucf-breshad-perriman-nfl-draft-0430-20150429-story.html

How can we draft a player that had knee issues since he was a kid? Said Perriman in an old article: "I remember at an older age, my knees would just give out just walking in random places like in the mall or something," he said. "And everybody would be like, 'Boy, what's wrong with you?'"

It was Osgood-Schlatter disease, a common yet uncomfortable knee inflammation among adolescents. The pain level varies from patient to patient and those afflicted by the condition are sometimes genetically predisposed, as in the case of Breshad Perriman.

[January J]

Ah...So Harbs is still playoff bound? You go get em Harbs!

I'd like to hear what his answer would be if he was asked straight up if he thinks the Ravens are still going to make the playoffs. Publicly I'm sure he would say yes.

[SmashMouth7]

With personalities like Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Haloti Nghata, Bernard Pollard, Terrel Suggs. IF you dont have a really great head coach to keep those personalities in line it can destroy a team just as much as help a team. Those guys are great and they expect everyone to be as great as they were which is a hard thing for other players to know that they would never be in the spotlight like those guys. Head coach keeps everyone on the same page aiming for the same goals. Harbs is not a bad coach. We have just been good for so long that its starting to get to our team. There is a lot of pressure on the players because this has been a winning organization since the beginning. A lot is expected from the management and the players. How many of our best coaches and management have left for new jobs elsewhere because of performance here. Marvin Lewis, Rex Ryan for example. We lost our head of college scouting director a few years ago and some of our scouts went on to better positions on other teams. When you lose a lot of your great scouts and great coaches and have to replace them it makes it hard to get the same results and I think we are seeing the effects of that now. There will be a lot of pressure on the scouts and coaches this offseason to scout the right players for the draft and bring in the right players from free agency.

Those personalities kept a winning vibe in the locker room, Harbaugh got rid of guys that had that fire to put their teammates in check. I'll take all those players over a coach that can not coach their personalities. It's his way or the highway now we're left with a losing way. Plus Harbaugh straight out lie with no cut, arguing with chip kelly, which I liked, then said he didn't. Saying he didn't have a dog house which he did, he was brought in for discipline it's done now we need someone to come in for winning with mixed personalities.

Edited October 20, 2015 by SmashMouth7

[bmoraven]

That all sounds Nice, but didn't we just do this in 2013? After we cut and gutted the team? just curious