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The real mistake with Perriman. Five players up and down. PFF grades. Flacco on Dan Patrick Show.

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[llxxGrimxxll]

i see fluff... instead berating the worst team in football right now and headhunting fixes.. they print fluff.. no wonder baltimore is 1 and 5. if i were biscotti i would be back-charging the players and coaches for lost ticket sales he suffered this year because of their shoddy play.  he does this kind of thing to the temps in his company (when they break things because of carelessness or poor performance), why not do it to the football team?

Edited October 20, 2015 by llxxGrimxxll

[Bohica5]

Sergio Perriman a mistake??.....I accept ALL of ur apologies for the negs you gave me for telling the truth(Which most of you refuse to accept)about our towel boy being a mistake(the mistake was taking a receiver) and we better never ever take a receiver in the 1st round again....We use to draft fantastically when we took "best available" and made it work for us.....and next year it better be a new QB or we are going to be perennial last placers in our division(until we purge the mediocrity, and we really need a new head coach also....neg me up but YOU know its the truth......Sad times call for a change for our team....So let's change it!!.....our owner must care a little!

Edited October 20, 2015 by Bohica5

[merryjman]

Look, I'm as disappointed as everyone else, but I have to again comment on just what Ozzie is facing in terms of salary cap. Dennis Pitta has a $32 million contract, half of it guaranteed, and his total salary for this season is $12.8M. Over 10% of our salary cap is being spent on injured players. Over FIFTEEN percent of the cap is being spent on players who aren't even on the team any more (Rice, Ngata and J Jones are the top three) and there was no way (or no point) to keep them.

So this is what we're left with: no ability to sign good free agents, and literally no talent to fill the many empty roster spots, because the money just isn't there. It sucks, but they had to deal with the collateral damage of all those cap hits.

The good news is that the 2016 cap situation looks much better: No more Rice, No more Ngata, and Pitta will be dealt with one way or another by then, at most tying up a mere $6M in dead money. Flacco will have to restructure, as his agent indicated immediately after that $120M contract landed.

And then, Ozzie and Decosta will do what they always do: find value in the draft, and make smart free agent moves, and do their best to insure against disastrous injuries. We the fans will just have to be patient.

[BmoreB]

Sergio Perriman a mistake??.....I accept ALL of ur apologies for the negs you gave me for telling the truth(Which most of you refuse to accept)about our towel boy being a mistake(the mistake was taking a receiver) and we better never ever take a receiver in the 1st round again....We use to draft fantastically when we took "best available" and made it work for us.....and next year it better be a new QB or we are going to be perennial last placers in our division(until we purge the mediocrity, and we really need a new head coach also....neg me up but YOU know its the truth......Sad times call for a change for our team....So let's change it!!.....our owner must care a little!

Maybe you should find another team to follow. Asking for a new QB is asinine, borderline insane really.

[Bohica5]

Maybe you should find another team to follow. Asking for a new QB is asinine, borderline insane really.

keeping flacco and harbs would be assinine......they have run their course.....unless you want the same old plays, no imagination,and losing.....like losing?   I don't....

[January J]

keeping flacco and harbs would be assinine......they have run their course.....unless you want the same old plays, no imagination,and losing.....like losing?   I don't....

well harbaugh and flacco combined have THE most wins in the league since they came in..so yeah, I like winning. I'd rather accept one bump in the road than to be the Browns. A few minor adjustments this offseason and we will be right back at it.

[757RavensFan]

Sergio Perriman a mistake??.....I accept ALL of ur apologies for the negs you gave me for telling the truth(Which most of you refuse to accept)about our towel boy being a mistake(the mistake was taking a receiver) and we better never ever take a receiver in the 1st round again....We use to draft fantastically when we took "best available" and made it work for us.....and next year it better be a new QB or we are going to be perennial last placers in our division(until we purge the mediocrity, and we really need a new head coach also....neg me up but YOU know its the truth......Sad times call for a change for our team....So let's change it!!.....our owner must care a little!

 

I like how you pick and choose what to read in the LFW article.  Nowhere was it stated that drafting him was a mistake.

 

I guess you missed this part.

“Drafting Perriman wasn’t the real mistake; not having any semblance of a backup plan to stretch the field was the major error when you acknowledge the history of NFL first-round receivers who haven’t found immediate success on the field.”

 

[tbird]

The Ravens are working out more unknown corner backs. So, who wants to be carved up like a Thanksgiving turkey by Carson Palmer on Monday night? We will be wishing for one of those close games. This is about to get really, really ugly, fans.

[steelcityraven]

Perriman is way too early to call a bust. The guys hasn't even stepped foot on an NFL field yet... how can we say if he is a bust or not... no one has seen him play. A career is not one season.... lets wait and see on this on... I do think they are right in saying the real problem is the lack of a back up plan. THey placed a lot of hope in a 36year old WR and a rookie! The 36 year old has held up his end of the bargain but with out back ups... it only took one injury to derail us! That's not okay..... in today's NFL.

[JayTheGreat]

YOOOO this is wack man...Bill Belichick is about to have Rashaan Balling for him smh...what if he actually became a shutdown corner for the Patriots. That would just confirm everything about this week coaching staff.

[steelcityraven]

I have said this before and I will keep saying it. It doesn't matter if we would bring in DReevis, RSherman, Clinton Ha Ha Dix and Cam Chancelor - Earl Thomas- Eric Weddle etc... We would still have an excuse why our DB's cant cover. James Ihedigbo and Darian Stewart are having pro-bowl like seasons this year in (Denver and Detroit respectively). I think Chykie Brown is playing in NY (not sure how well he is doing admittedly). Will Hill was considered one of the top Safties in the NFL with the Giants... Just last season Jimmy Smith was being called one of the top 5 CB's in the NFL. KLewis was having a probowl type season last year in Houston. Kyle Arrington was one of the hottest CB FA's on the market at the start of this season. WHy can our players (who are not cutting it here) leave here and play at a high level elsewhere? Why can other players look great elsewhere and then come here and in a short time look horrible? Why can players we have and know are great look so bad in our defense? It cannot be that every DBack that we bring in is horrible! At some point we have to be honest about this and say that our DC is failing us! When ? If you make everyone around you worse -what does that say. IF they leave and instantly get better what does that say? If they are great and come in and play horrible and cant cut it in our D what does that say? Tell me one DB that flourished under Pees? One? Tell how many DBacks have under achieved since we got Pees? Tell me how many left and played much better under a new DC in one short year? Somebody logically explain to me why this guy is still here? He is killing us! Period!

[balfan23]

If Melvin succeeds with the Pats, that's going to hurt. It will also say a lot. There is no team in the league that is as weak as we are at the CB position. We cut him, because he played poorly ... for us. If he plays well in NE, I'd think someone would need to answer to that.

[ellicottraven]

Pees needs to make sure his players practice what he preaches. If they can't, cut them. If they don't cut him because it can only mean he's lost the defense.

[TheConquerorWorm]

Why can players we have and know are great look so bad in our defense? It cannot be that every DBack that we bring in is horrible! At some point we have to be honest about this and say that our DC is failing us! When ? If you make everyone around you worse -what does that say. IF they leave and instantly get better what does that say? If they are great and come in and play horrible and cant cut it in our D what does that say? Tell me one DB that flourished under Pees? One? Tell how many DBacks have under achieved since we got Pees? Tell me how many left and played much better under a new DC in one short year? Somebody logically explain to me why this guy is still here? He is killing us! Period!

You can't seriously watch the game and blame the bad defense, missed tackles, missed assignments, etc on the DC. It's not Pees fault that Will Hill played out of position letting Torrey have single coverage against a CB off the street with no safety help. It's not his fault that Daryl Smith is old & slow and can't cover a TE to save his life. It's not his fault that Arrington can only play man coverage on small slot receivers and is horrible in zone coverage. 

 

Darian Stewart is playing safety on the best defense in the league with the best pass rushers in the league - no comparison. We are signing guys off the street to play defense. Really, name one player on this team that you would consider a top Defensive player in the NFL? Suggs is hurt. That leaves Dumervil, Mosley & Jimmy Smith as our best defensive players. We have a couple of solid guys like Brandon Williams & Will Hill but let's not kid ourselves, this defense has ZERO playmakers - no pass rushers, no shutdown corners, no ball hawking safeties. We can stop the run, kinda, that's it. I don't care who you bring in as DC, until we get some more talent on this defense, it's at the bottom of the league.

 

This is exactly what happens when you are in salary cap hell with too much dead money on the books. You can't afford to sign quality depth, so when injuries hit, you're stuck signing guys off the street.

[sami]

we lost Melvin? when did this happen? (Ive been on vacation)

[axisofeeble]

Hard to admit but this team sounds beat. Cardinals on the road spells doom. Carson Palmer must be chomping to unleash Fitzgerald,Brown,etc running free behind Webb,Hill,Wright,etal. ARI.-37---Ravens 27. If Suggs is this valuable at 33 how do we win with him 34 getting paid and recovering from 2nd major injury. Perriman can't heal or likes the 1st round money with no work? In Ozzie we trust is getting shaky. Trestman might not be funny,or a genius,or innovative but his attack certainly is boring,sort of Cameron like without the inc.run,draw ,punt aspect of familiarity. Wait till next year,lots of high draft picks to trade.

[Crusader]

Lets see were he list after the big contract.

[757RavensFan]

we lost Melvin? when did this happen? (Ive been on vacation)

 

Melvin and Babin were both released after the Browns game. 

[GangofRavens]

we lost Melvin? when did this happen? (Ive been on vacation)

Harbaugh threw a tantrum when Melvin made two mistakes in a game and cut him afterwards.

[EliteRavens]

We cut Melvin and Charles James but what about S. Wright?

[Fastynart]

The "real mistake" with Perriman was drafting him in the first place. We did not need another questionable wide receiver. What we needed was and IS defense. Although our offense has looked pretty bad at times, they have put enough points on the board to win at least two, and possibly three of the games in the loss column. The defense sucks. I can't believe that since Ray retired, no one in the Ravens front office has done a damn thing to beef up the defense. Elam was the worst pick since Kyle Boller. Whomever scouted this guy and thought him worthy of a number one pick should be fired. He is awful.

[Darkraven23]

I agree with Fastynart the thing is i always mike mayock is full of hot air you could tell perriman wasnt a first round wide reciever by looking at the teams that passed on him needed a speed guy in the first round vikings bears raiders steelers and the jets among others all passed even the broncos took a lesser receiver who is now performing well behind sanders so maybe he's worth a pick but he should have been atleast 3rd round because now we know why everyone passed and more than likely we should took shane ray

[rmcjacket23]

I agree with Fastynart the thing is i always mike mayock is full of hot air you could tell perriman wasnt a first round wide reciever by looking at the teams that passed on him needed a speed guy in the first round vikings bears raiders steelers and the jets among others all passed even the broncos took a lesser receiver who is now performing well behind sanders so maybe he's worth a pick but he should have been atleast 3rd round because now we know why everyone passed and more than likely we should took shane ray

LOL, couple of problems I have with this...

 

1. The Bears and Raiders took WRs before him that were perceived to be better than him. That's why they passed on him. You don't trade a speed guy for a better player.

 

2. The last thing the Steelers were looking for in the draft was a speed WR... they had plenty of those already. Brown and Bryant were already on the roster. 

 

3. Vikings had already added Mike Wallace, who is a speed guy.

 

4. We couldn't have picked Shane Ray, because he was drafted before it was our time to pick.

 

The people that passed on him had other players rated higher or didn't need him and wanted someone else.

 

Sorry, but your analysis is just completely wrong.

Edited October 20, 2015 by rmcjacket23

[EddiOK]

The only way to have a backup plan to an untested rookie WR to stretch the field is to go out and get a high-quality free agent and pay top $$. Is that something Ozzie was prepared to do, knowing the cap limits and dead $$ we were paying out this year? It would have been viewed as high-risk financially. In retrospect, it might have won us a game or two more. Nine out of ten times, he's saying no to that kind of approach.

[EddiOK]

Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that Belicheat is going to make Melvin a pro-bowl CB by the playoffs?

[iluvpurple]

Not sure where my earlier post on here went, but I will try to re-post it..... Marshall Yanda is not only one of the best players in the NFL, he is definitely one of the BEST players to ever grace a Raven's uniform. I could say so many great things about his play on the field, and off the field (he is ALWAYS at Purple Evening for us women fans), but the greatest thing I can say is, he absolutely reminds me of our old Baltimore Colts players, that lived and breathed for the game, that means a lot these days.......

[jecopeland1]

THe ravens have alot of work to do for next season we have to fix our defense(secondary) . And then stevesmith is retiring so we have to get flacco some actual weapons. i just hope we never go into dark time like the raiders

[Bandit666]

1. Way to go Yonda. Taking less pay to stay with the classiest organization in the entire NFL. 2. Flacco is having a horrible year, he is trying to do too much and is making mistakes. Would Perriman or a speedy WR to stretch the field make a difference, maybe. One big play is all you need, ala Torrey Smith last game. That play took any hope of the Ravens winning. 3. Fire Pees.

[Bohica5]

I like how you pick and choose what to read in the LFW article.  Nowhere was it stated that drafting him was a mistake.

 

I guess you missed this part.

“Drafting Perriman wasn’t the real mistake; not having any semblance of a backup plan to stretch the field was the major error when you acknowledge the history of NFL first-round receivers who haven’t found immediate success on the field.”

 

So...you apoligize for negging me then.....