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[News] John Harbaugh Addresses Late-Game Urgency

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Could Joe get his head in the game?  Blame everyone you want, but he's responsible for this poor record!

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I'd love to see an article on how our past 4-5 drafts have not been fruitful. Instead of reloading like the Pats, we unload and try to make amends with other people's garbage.

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It sucks even more when Pittsburgh can have a 3rd string QB come in stone cold and throw a couple TD passes to a guy who was playing his first game of the season and do it against a 4-2 team.

In a Ravens timetable, that's an incredibly short time to gel with your receivers.

How DO they do it? HMmmm....IJS

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I can't believe that Harbaugh actually said %u201CWe were trying to get to the line as fast as we could and get the plays called as quickly as we could.%u201D Every fan saw that there was zero effort coming out of that O Line on those two plays. Wow...just wow.

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With the make up of this team we would be better off with Jim instead of John Harbaugh. Jim would have a foot up a couple of lineman's ..... After that so called 2 minute drill.

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What are the chances that since Mccown threw for 457 and Kapernick threw for 340 that Palmer will

throw for over 500 next Monday night. With the whole world watching. ouch

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On another note what is the deal with our schedule. Totally unnecessary that we had to have 5 of 7 on the road which included 4 games out west. Screw you NFL. We should have protested that from the

beginning. That was the NFL way of saying to the Ravens You are not making the playoffs this year,.

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You know come next Monday, we will all be thinking " hey we can still make the playoffs" if they just get their heads out of their rear ends! One game at a time, hey I can dream can't I?

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It's not all on you and your staff Harbs, but if So. Cal comes callin', go for it. Its time for a change. The G.M. has a huge hand in this mess. Bringing in guys off the street to replace starters is not how you build. Biscotti served notice after 8-8. The organization knows where he stands.

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The QB is supposed to be the leader of the team. When your QB is throwing two interceptions per game, it is obvious that he is not committed or invested in winning. That poor attitude and level of commitment is filtering down through the entire team. Harbaugh needs to get a handle on it quick.

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Joh H, if you can really say that is the fastest our line can move and the fastest you can call plays maybe its time to find another occupation. You continously make excuses or deny what everyone else can see plainly!!!!! denying things doesnt make it go away. Try being truthful once, I guess that is too much to ask of someone who said perrimans injury was "minor" and that you said you didnt know what his status was! that is an outrageios comment from someone who is responsible for every player on his team I think any other coach would consult with the medical staff every day about a 1st round pick>> AND where is T sizlle???? all other players like B rothelberger, and smith sr are at every game and involved. THis team HAS given up Dan PPes has to go our defense is terrible. testman calls a very conservative game just no one is playing well BRING RAY LEWIS IN as def. coord and light a fire.

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You know come next Monday, we will all be thinking " hey we can still make the playoffs" if they just get their heads out of their rear ends! One game at a time, hey I can dream can't I?

you can dream all you want. But unfortunately this was probably the last chance we had to turn it around. We've shown no sign of improvement and losing back to back to the browns and niners while making mccown and kaepernick look like pro bowlers did it for me. Keep dreaming though. It's been done before and it will eventually be done again.
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"I'd love to see an article on how our past 4-5 drafts have not been fruitful. Instead of reloading like the Pats, we unload and try to make amends with other people's garbage."

Couldn't agree more. I commented on this a couple of seasons ago, but was negged because everybody thinks Ozzie is God. How could you keep losing talents like, Arthur Jones, Ellerbie, Macffie, Boldin, Torrey Smith, Ngata, Kruger, year in year out, (Interestingly could you believe that all these guys were on our roster at the same time) and expect to win. I know you can't pay everybody but it seems to me that Ozzie takes pride in saving money even if it means losing talents. Teams that find ways to keep talents, I believe win enough to justify the money they spend. What happens to all the money Ozzie saves? Goes right back to the garbage carrousel that we have become. In the end we save no money.

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The QB is supposed to be the leader of the team. When your QB is throwing two interceptions per game, it is obvious that he is not committed or invested in winning. That poor attitude and level of commitment is filtering down through the entire team. Harbaugh needs to get a handle on it quick.

wrong. It's not a problem with attitude or commitment. It's simply a lack of execution mixed with a tough string of injuries. add in a tough start to the schedule . And it's kind of funny to say that he's not invested in winning when he's tied with manning for the most wins in the nfl since 2008. That's over Brady, Rogers, and so on.
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"I'd love to see an article on how our past 4-5 drafts have not been fruitful. Instead of reloading like the Pats, we unload and try to make amends with other people's garbage."

Couldn't agree more. I commented on this a couple of seasons ago, but was negged because everybody thinks Ozzie is God. How could you keep losing talents like, Arthur Jones, Ellerbie, Macffie, Boldin, Torrey Smith, Ngata, Kruger, year in year out, (Interestingly could you believe that all these guys were on our roster at the same time) and expect to win. I know you can't pay everybody but it seems to me that Ozzie takes pride in saving money even if it means losing talents. Teams that find ways to keep talents, I believe win enough to justify the money they spend. What happens to all the money Ozzie saves? Goes right back to the garbage carrousel that we have become. In the end we save no money.

You do realize most of the guys you listed were replaced with cheaper, better players correct?

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That was a compounded set of issues starting with coaching (burning a timeout early, horrible challenge) and made worse by the lackadaisical manner of the O-Line. We are paying Monroe and Zuttah good money for their very average play, but this is unacceptable. Ozzie better force some hard personalities on this team. Put a Wally or a Zeus on that line and see a sense of urgency.

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I'd love to see an article on how our past 4-5 drafts have not been fruitful. Instead of reloading like the Pats, we unload and try to make amends with other people's garbage."

Couldn't agree more. I commented on this a couple of seasons ago, but was negged because everybody thinks Ozzie is God. How could you keep losing talents like, Arthur Jones, Ellerbie, Macffie, Boldin, Torrey Smith, Ngata, Kruger, year in year out, (Interestingly could you believe that all these guys were on our roster at the same time) and expect to win. I know you can't pay everybody but it seems to me that Ozzie takes pride in saving money even if it means losing talents. Teams that find ways to keep talents, I believe win enough to justify the money they spend. What happens to all the money Ozzie saves? Goes right back to the garbage carrousel that we have become. In the end we save no money.

You do realize most of the guys you listed were replaced with cheaper, better players correct?

What cheaper better players are your referring to?

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"The QB is supposed to be the leader of the team. When your QB is throwing two interceptions per game, it is obvious that he is not committed or invested in winning. That poor attitude and level of commitment is filtering down through the entire team. Harbaugh needs to get a handle on it quick.

wrong. It's not a problem with attitude or commitment. It's simply a lack of execution mixed with a tough string of injuries. add in a tough start to the schedule . And it's kind of funny to say that he's not invested in winning when he's tied with manning for the most wins in the nfl since 2008. That's over Brady, Rogers, and so on."

Flacco's so called win total is one of the most misleading statistics in sports. You know as they say "statistics is like a bikini, it shows a lot but it does show everything" Flacco is a beneficiary of a great defense that ranked in the top 10 for about a decade. Flacco never carried the defense. The defense carried Flacco. The best segment of Flacco's career was the 2012 playoff run. In fact most will argue that, that was his only good run. Flacco is not going to carry any team. If you believe that, you will be continually disappointed.

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John Harbaugh really seems like a great guy, and a good leader but I don't think he is a good fit for this team. Like I've said years past, he took the credit from Ray Lewis during that 2009-2012 span.

 

With Ray Lewis and a handful of our brute players now gone, Ozzie has to be cautious of who he puts on this team. This team needs someone that will get these players going with a high motor. Our best bet is to get a good feisty College coach to come in and be our D-coordinator then maybe promote him to Head Coach.

 

But as of right now, it seems like the head coach is one of the many problems with this team.

 

And also, Flacco showed yesterday that he is his same self and he will throw pure dumb and pathetic passes sometimes. Im really starting to think that Joe might be a little slow, and this whole time we were just thinking he was just an overly cool QB, when really he is just a tab bit slow lol.

 

Regardless Flacco is a talented QB working with mediocre WR's right now except for a couple guys.

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please , please , please tank and get a top 5 pick ...Don't say tanking is not in ravens DNA ...if we had an iota of self pride we wont be in this deep a hole in the first place ...

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At rmcjacket23, free agency can be a killer, however, I tend to agree with you, wondering why we can't keep some of the players we develop. The cap is bogus, only because it was intended to keep the Jerry Jones types from becoming the N.Y Yankees and Boston Red Sox teams of the NFL.

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If Harbaugh denies the fact that there was an absolute lack of hustle in the last 75 seconds of the game and wants to showcase his support for his players by not throwing them under the bus, I can totally understand and fall in line with that reasoning. But, if for a second he seriously believes that in those 75 seconds, the Ravens were really hustling to get the ball into the end zone, he is in total denial and needs to be more forthcoming! Those last 75 seconds were agonizing to watch for any Ravens fan and no amount of reasoning after the fact is going to change that.

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I'd love to see an article on how our past 4-5 drafts have not been fruitful. Instead of reloading like the Pats, we unload and try to make amends with other people's garbage."

Couldn't agree more. I commented on this a couple of seasons ago, but was negged because everybody thinks Ozzie is God. How could you keep losing talents like, Arthur Jones, Ellerbie, Macffie, Boldin, Torrey Smith, Ngata, Kruger, year in year out, (Interestingly could you believe that all these guys were on our roster at the same time) and expect to win. I know you can't pay everybody but it seems to me that Ozzie takes pride in saving money even if it means losing talents. Teams that find ways to keep talents, I believe win enough to justify the money they spend. What happens to all the money Ozzie saves? Goes right back to the garbage carrousel that we have become. In the end we save no money.

What cheaper better players are your referring to?

Well, lets take the one's he listed for example...

 

We lost Ellerbe to a huge deal for the Dolphins, we signed Daryl Smith for significantly less. Ellerbe was then benched in Miami, and is now playing in New Orleans for significantly less.

 

We lost Kruger to a huge deal for the Browns, and while he's played well, we signed Dumervil, who has more sacks than he does since leaving... for significantly less.

 

We let Boldin walk, and we signed Steve Smith, a nearly identical player (I'd argue better) at this stage in his career, again, for significantly less.

 

And while we let Ngata and Art Jones leave, neither is doing much of anything on their respective teams, and our defensive line is arguably the biggest strength of the team. The run defense is still superb, which is primarily what those two guys excelled at.

 

The only two guys on that list who we significantly miss right now are Torrey and McPhee. Torrey was attempted to be replaced by Perriman, and naturally the FO don't have a time machine, so they couldn't have predicted that he'd suffer a largely season-killing injury. If he's healthy, we may not even be discussing Torrey Smith right now, but we can't know that for sure.

 

McPhee, while NOW a big loss, was always the third pass rusher on this team, and you can't spend $8M a year on pass rushing depth. While we feel his loss from a depth issue, again, its amplified by the loss of Suggs, which was unpredictable.

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At rmcjacket23, free agency can be a killer, however, I tend to agree with you, wondering why we can't keep some of the players we develop. The cap is bogus, only because it was intended to keep the Jerry Jones types from becoming the N.Y Yankees and Boston Red Sox teams of the NFL.

The cap benefits everybody. It keeps at least a semblance of parody in the league, which makes the league itself more relevant and thus generates more revenue. Without it, there would be no revenue sharing amongst the owners, many teams would contract, and the league would be dominated by about a half dozen teams in the league every year.

 

And given that the Ravens are basically a small-to-mid-size market in the grand scheme of things, we wouldn't be one of those teams.

 

Every team in the league has the same problem retaining all of their players.

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