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[News] Torrey Smith, Anquan Boldin React To Torching Former Team

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The trades where all about the $ for the owners, as well as the players. We all know that Dallas Owner has big $. But apparently not enough for Demarco Murray. Demarco looks bad this year. But he's paid..... All of our X players loved being here in Baltimore. But they didn't want to give them the $ they wanted to stay...

There's a salary cap. Owners are told how much they can spend, and they can't exceed it.

 

In the grand scheme of things, every NFL team has the same amount of money to spend on players as every other team. Its just a matter of whether they choose to do so or not.

 

Historically, we spend as much on players as the Cowboys do.

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didn't he draft a receiver in the first round? That's what everybody was yelling for ....and then he gets injured and ppl blame Ozzie again like he could have predicted that would happen. Maybe you should change your username.

 

In the past 19 years, or however long you want to go back, see how many times Oz has drafted a WR or CB with a first round pick?   I think you can count with a single hand.  Since that time period, has he ever drafted anyone like Darrelle Revis or someone like Julio Jones or AJ Green?  That's what I thought...

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Did Oz read the injury report on Perriman before we drafted him in the 1st round?

"I remember at an older age, my knees would just give out just walking in random places like in the mall or something," he said. "And everybody would be like, 'Boy, what's wrong with you?'"

It was Osgood-Schlatter disease, a common yet uncomfortable knee inflammation among adolescents. The pain level varies from patient to patient and those afflicted by the condition are sometimes genetically predisposed, as in the case of Breshad Perriman.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/ucf-knights/os-ucf-breshad-perriman-nfl-draft-0430-20150429-story.html

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I guess now we see what happens when you only think about saving money instead of paying people what they are worth, you make stupid mistakes and trade the people who can help you make it to the playoffs, the Ravens FO and head coach put this team in this position and if they can't get them out of this position both of you should be fired!!!

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Ugh. Anybody could see these two would light us up. Jeez, I miss them.

You know what? I'm happy for for T and Q. But at the same time, if I was them I wouldn't "crow" too loud. The Ravens have sadly proven to be an easy team to beat this season, and the 9ers are far from being a winning team themselves. Right now the Ravens make crappy teams look like playoff contenders.

Enjoy it while you can, boys. I hope you don't eat too much "crow" down the road.

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i hate they came and ate us like that, but at the same time im glad our fans got to learn the hard way that even a "one trick pony" is far better than 5 no trick ones.

 

Torrey was "our" one trick pony and I was pissed to hear that Ozzie let him hit free agency.  Smh!

 

They might remind the Ravens of what they are missing, but not the Ravens fault that Torrey decided to move on because the Ravens couldn't afford to keep him or Anquan..... Just sayin'....... Sometimes the cap stinks......

 

I'm glad that they looked out for themselves and their family even if that meant walking away from Baltimore.

 

But the fact that this is the team they won a Super Bowl with, i'm sure they still have that connection with this city.

 

I'm pretty sure that they both feel "connected" to the city of Baltimore but that doesn't mean that they miss being there after relocating their families and getting them situated and aclimated to San Francisco and going to work for the 49ers.

 

I'd like to hear Ozzie just say, "I'm sorry- I messed up with Anquan and Torrey. I should've just given them that extra million per year and found money elsewhere instead of trying to use band-aid, rent a receiver solution for receivers and corners. This year falls squarely on Oz and the FO. Last year, we barely made it to the playoffs- wasn't the writing on the wall? How come everyone knew we had to address our receiver / corner position except for Oz?

 

I definitely agree with this.

 

Torrey left because we offered $35M over 5 years and he wanted $40 mill for 5 years. Mathematically speaking, he left because he was getting an extra million dollars a year going to SF. To most people out there, those are life-changing numbers, but people look at as in oh well, they are athletes and got money so what's $5 million gonna do to him?? I am sure Torrey made the right decision for him and his family. C'mon ppl!!

 

Absolutely!  And, I don't blame him for bolting for San Francisco not one bit!  I'm different from most in that I love the fact that these players look out for themselves cause this business can be ruthless and cutthroat.  They can cut you, release you or even trade you at any given time and then on top of that ask you to take "pay-cuts".  Smh!

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How is Wright, a guy off the streets, even on the field covering two WR's who helped us win a Super Bowl in their revenge game??? Btw we helped put ourselves in this position defensively by waiving Melvin after one bad game, who should have never been there, and he was claimed off waivers by the Pats. Then Will Davis got hurt and had to go on IR. Apparently Tray Walker isn't ready for the task either? You have such little confidence that you can't throw him into a an emergency situation to play nickel. Charles James may have even been a better option. Wright has proven that he can't play in the league. The 9ers signed Wright initially to be one of their starting corners, but his preseason play was so poor he never dressed for them. And apparently when he was no longer getting opportunities in SF he badmouthed the team and demanded to be traded. Sound like a player we want to avoid at all costs.

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jek81791? I'm seriously convinced we "can't" beat anyone this year. Not even the 0 - 6 Lions!!! That's just how bad we are. We seem to play good in short spurts, and then by the end of the game we've run out of gas and can't sustain a drive or defend our turf long enough to secure a victory. Truth be told, we really should be 0 - 6. If not for the Squeelas missing those 2 field goals, I think we lose there too. 
 

 

Enough already!  Can we please get credit for the one "W" we got?  I mean really, people keep bringing up those missed field goals and it's really getting old.  Kickers miss field goals people, it happens, especially in Ketchup Field.  But with the way you guys keep talking about it you'd think Scobee's misses were some sort of rare astronomical anomaly.  Hell, by your logic, we really should have won that game against Cleveland if Tucker hadn't missed his field goal; maybe even won the game in SanFran just the same... Give credit to where it's due. Our defense might suck and make bad to average QBs look elite but fact is, they did enough during that Pittsburgh game to stop their offense and force them to kick... They missed, twice, and so we win. End of story!  BTW, the Lions are 1-5 (like us), not 0-6.  

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I get so tired of this ... people making up things just to try and emphasize their point. If Torrey and Q were still Ravens right now with the stats they currently have these forums would be calling for their heads.

They both had excellent games against a completely injury depleted secondary. This idea about "injuries don't matter" needs to stop. There are reasons that people are 3rd string, 4th string, on the practice squad or cut by other teams. No, they are not good enough in most cases to play at the level of 1st and 2nd string starters.

If you look at both these guys in the 5 games before their game against the Ravens:

Torrey - 11 of 19 for 127 yards (25.4yds/game) and 1 Touchdown

Q - 23 of 47 for 231 yards (46.2yds/game) and 2 Touchdowns (and 107yds and 1 TD came against the Giants)

To put it another way, Kamar Aiken had more production than they did leading into the game against the Ravens. People need to stop acting like the team that is on the field for the Ravens is the one that the FO envisioned or built.

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Sharece Wright ought to the the linch pin for our failure in SF.  Anquan and Torrey knew how pathetic he was and in a Ravens uniform he made us look bad.

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I could see why Torrey wasn't worth the money to keep here. But I still don't understand for life of me why Boldin was traded for a sixth round draft pick. If age was any of a factor in that decision...you can see he's still tearing it up 3 years removed.

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Fans are still like calling Smith a "one trick pony" but we found out what a lethal trick it is , and what we are without it.

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I understand letting Torrey go for a $5M difference in salary (don't like it, but I understand). Cutting Boldin over less than $1M is what I can't get over. We would've made the playoffs in 2013 had he remained on the roster, but his personality was "too strong" for Harbs. Well, he may be older and slower, but he is tough, has great hands and is a leader.

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Torrey left because we offered $35M over 5 years and he wanted $40 mill for 5 years. Mathematically speaking, he left because he was getting an extra million dollars a year going to SF. To most people out there, those are life-changing numbers, but people look at as in oh well, they are athletes and got money so what's $5 million gonna do to him?? I am sure Torrey made the right decision for him and his family. C'mon ppl!!

I think fans sound less than logical and downright hypocritical when they argue for why someone else should take a self-imposed pay cut that they themselves would never entertain.  

Ozzie's $35mill/19mill grnted salary was nowhere close to  the 49ers $40mill/22mill grntd salary + $8mill signing bonus+$750k workout bonus. There is nobody in this league that would even entertain the thought of staying with their current team. Many fans would rather ignore the fact  that Ozzie's job is pay every players the accepted minimum , provide as little contractual security he can and and demonize a player doing the same thing. When a GM win at the table it it's celebrated as a bargain or value signing. When players win at the table it's simply  called greed-especially of it's another team that willing to pay.

 

"No player in the NFL is paid what they are worth. You're paid what you can negotiate" - Eric Davis

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I understand letting Torrey go for a $5M difference in salary (don't like it, but I understand). Cutting Boldin over less than $1M is what I can't get over. We would've made the playoffs in 2013 had he remained on the roster, but his personality was "too strong" for Harbs. Well, he may be older and slower, but he is tough, has great hands and is a leader.

The $2mill cut from his $6mill base cut was imminent and Boldin knew it was coming just like all players know it on backloaded contracts. What set infuriated Boldin was that Ozzie made it clear that in addition to the pay cut that he would not be offered an extension. Nobody was willing do more than pick up his current tab. The 49ers picked up the tab i, gave us a pick and placed him well outside of the division.  Despite having a killer post-season his less than stellar regular season wasn't forgotten.  

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Fans are still like calling Smith a "one trick pony" but we found out what a lethal trick it is , and what we are without it.

So true.

 

"No player in the NFL is paid what they are worth. You're paid what you can negotiate" - Eric Davis

I just love Eric Davis. Always just tells it like it is.

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Pick a side, first everyone was trashing Torrey for not giving his all on every play and veug a one trick pony, now everyone wants to say how bad if a move it was to let him walk. Stick to your opinion...so.e of y'all are phony as hell.

 

He is a one trick pony and does not fight for the football. Steve Smith even at 35 is a better WR than Smith.

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(1.) "torched us"?? They had TWO big plays where we completely dropped the ball & blew coverages with a brand new guy off-the-street. T-w-o plays, people; hardly torching... .. .

(2.) "reminded the Ravens what they're missing"?? I'm pretty certain BOTH teams entered the day at 1-4. Boldin hasn't done anything to help San Fran since being there & obviously Torrey isn't transforming them into a SuperBowl contender either. Calm down; sheesh... .. .

(3.) I've heard the most disappointing things from my RAVENS NATION during this trying time. People are blaming Ozzie for draft picks (?????), Harris is now a subpar coach, even CJ Mosley shouldn't be on the field all 3 downs. Smh. We lost every single game on the final play of every game. Despite all the mistakes we've made & all the injuries we've endured & the revolving door in the secondary, we did ENOUGH to be in position to win EVERY single game this season. We are one bounce-of-the-ball from being 0-5. We're also one bounce from being 5-0. Relax... .. .

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Oh well. Don't get too cocky guys. You were a 1-4 team as well till you beat us. For that matter any receiver lining up against our CBs seems to win easily anyway. Not a great measure scoring on our defensive backs, so ease up on the 'torching' stuff.

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Still miss "Q" - we probably wouldn't have gone after SSS if he was still here. Wish we could have both (for their whole careers) - that would have made some noise.

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(1.) "torched us"?? They had TWO big plays where we completely dropped the ball & blew coverages with a brand new guy off-the-street. T-w-o plays, people; hardly torching... .. . (2.) "reminded the Ravens what they're missing"?? I'm pretty certain BOTH teams entered the day at 1-4. Boldin hasn't done anything to help San Fran since being there & obviously Torrey isn't transforming them into a SuperBowl contender either. Calm down; sheesh... .. . (3.) I've heard the most disappointing things from my RAVENS NATION during this trying time. People are blaming Ozzie for draft picks (?????), Harris is now a subpar coach, even CJ Mosley shouldn't be on the field all 3 downs. Smh. We lost every single game on the final play of every game. Despite all the mistakes we've made & all the injuries we've endured & the revolving door in the secondary, we did ENOUGH to be in position to win EVERY single game this season. We are one bounce-of-the-ball from being 0-5. We're also one bounce from being 5-0. Relax... .. .

OMG!!! I could not have said it better myself!!! You cannot call it "torched" against a terrible secondary!! against a Darrell Revis type..yes! against Wright...no I like Torrey Smith alot but he is not the best and he has not been turning SF into a team to be feared. I definitely understand why he went for the money. Nothing is guarenteed.

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One thing I found or noticed about some of our Ravens fans. we are quick to judge others opinion, sometimes take a look at your comments if you do not like them, say nothing . you think you are better then others but you are not. Seriously people lots of you are taking this too personal for get the game now cause you are not real fans cause real fans do not treat their own like most i mean most or you do.you act like kids worse then your own I No more to say to any of you so called fans this year done.

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I could see why Torrey wasn't worth the money to keep here. But I still don't understand for life of me why Boldin was traded for a sixth round draft pick. If age was any of a factor in that decision...you can see he's still tearing it up 3 years removed.

 

I think you're letting his playoff performance that year cloud your memory.  He was 65 of 112 for 921 yds and 4 TDs with less than ~80yds in half of his games and only 2 over 100yds during the 2012 season.  He was 22 of 36 for 380yds and 4TD in the playoffs - a huge increase over his season performance.  And a pace he has not come close to sustaining since then.

 

Q is far from "tearing it up" with the 49ers.   They targeted a defender they knew extremely well (they even said so themselves) and exploited his weaknesses and tendencies.  Good for them.

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"San Francisco Head Coach Jim Tomsula said the out-and-up route was something the 49ers drew up specifically for Smith."

 

Hmmmm, could it be because they knew he'd be matched against Shareece Wright?????? lol man

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I could see why Torrey wasn't worth the money to keep here. But I still don't understand for life of me why Boldin was traded for a sixth round draft pick. If age was any of a factor in that decision...you can see he's still tearing it up 3 years removed.

 

Agree 100%. Boldin was a bad move period. The Smith move was a good business decision that just didn't work in our favor last week.

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