Was Harbs winning a SB lucky?

[Dfence4champs2052]

I feel like Boldin has already been replaced by Steve Smith of course Boldin is  more taller and a better red zone threat but no way you can convince me he's not a aggressive player and etc. Boldin bought toughness to The Ravens offense and so does Steve Smith.  

 

Since Dfence4champs2052 told me go find a players guide(not trying to be sarcastic or smart) I guess the other aggressive player  Harbaugh supposely released was Bernard Pollard but James Ihedigbo replaced him in 2013 whom was a better cover safety and cheaper. The Ravens have been able to replace Pollard not once but twice with Ihedigbo and Hill.

 

 

Boldin was making 6 million before he was traded and Steve Smith is making 4 million right now. I don't remember entirely how much Pollard was making before he was cut  I think it was 2 or 3 million while guys like Ihedigbo and Hill  were making less and are better safeties. I really don't understand why Ravens fans keep bringing up Boldin or even Pollard when we have replaced them with cheaper/better talent.

 

Yet that replaced talent took us to the promised land. The great replacements you point out haven't done much except help shatter all the franchises' records and streaks with mediocrity.

[Dfence4champs2052]

So you saying getting rid of guys like Boldin and Pollard took away the swagger from the team even though for majority of the time none of these guys were Ravens for most of their career.The Ravens swagger has been around way before those guys got here. 

 

 Harbaugh has never shy away from players that would debate against his methods. I remember years ago when him and Derrick Mason would get into  a  argument on the sidelines but yet when he was a free agent he was re-signed.  Ravens fans seem to picture Harbaugh as this egotistic coach that wants yes men at all times but where is this evidence to prove this other than speculations?

 

People that are refuting this are also using speculation.

[Dfence4champs2052]

If what you're saying is that Harbaugh was somewhat resposnible for the methodical purging of talent in favor of more agreealbe players that saw eye to eye with him, you may have a very valid point. Like somebody said in some post I read, Harbaugh has purged the swagger right out of the Ravens!

 

He was aruging against that point. That was the point I was making.

[jazz1988]

Yet that replaced talent took us to the promised land. The great replacements you point out haven't done much except help shatter all the franchises' records and streaks with mediocrity.

 

The talent you mention didn't take The Ravens  to the promised land in their first year. It took time and many heart broken losses for the players to get on one of accord. Rome wasn't built in a day and I'm not even brushing off that they wasn't good or great players but reality is this they can't stay forever.

 

I'm sorry but Bernard Pollard is not going to help our secondary perform better in coverage and the way he plays that just means more unnecessary penalties and Will Hill is a  way better strong safety than he is. Anquan Boldin is still a solid player but Steve Smith brings just about everything he bought to The Ravens and maybe more besides height/being red zone threat.

 

Honestly in 2012 our defense was shattering records back then even when those players were on the team. They eventually got things to together but i remember in 2012 where teams could run all over our defense  and even pass the ball at well. These issues didn't just start after those guys left but it's was quite evident when they were here

Edited October 26, 2015 by jazz1988

[K-Dog]

, Harbaugh has purged the swagger right out of the Ravens!

Suggs?  Steve Smith? Jimmy Smith ( when he is doing good ) all have swagger.

 

Its kinda hard to have swagger at 1-5 for sure, but it was not intentionally purged by Harbaugh.

[jaege]

Of course. Every team that wins the SB has some measure of luck to get that far, either good luck for them or bad luck for the opposition, or a little of both. Because only one game is played per tier of the play offs, luck has more weight than baseball or basketball. Its just the way it is. 

[The Mom Gene]

You have to have the ability and the camaraderie.  And the resolve of the team has a lot to do with it more so.  You have to want it bad enough to leave it all out on the field for the good of each and every game.  It's about 80% ability and about 20% luck... if that.

[Militant X 1]

It depends on what you mean by "luck." Every team that wins a Super Bowl has some things go their way. Some times its just not having injuries, which can be a form of "luck." In the Ravens SB run, it was the end of the Denver game that was their "lucky break." Last year, the Patriots, as good as they have been, won their first SB in ten years. And they got a pretty "lucky break" to get it done. However, you have to do a lot of things right to have those moments matter. As an outsider and Steeler fan, I have to say that the thing I don't get in here is the bashing of Harbaugh and/or Flacco. No person, player or coach gets it right every time. There are a bunch of other good coaches and great players…all professionals….who are chasing the same thing your guys are chasing. Its hard to get it, thats why it means so much. You don't have the run of success the Ravens have had without a pretty darn good coach and an above average QB. The Ravens have both. The line between wins and losses in the NFL can be razor thin. I fully expect the Ravens to remain competitive for the rest of the season and be right back to threatening for the division next year. Down years like this suck. I know, the Steelers have had them. But your team is not the Browns or the Lions. This won't last. One of the things that has kept the Steelers competitive through the years is coaching stability and job security. I wouldn't underestimate the value of those things. You all will be much better off if the organization stands behind your coach and rides this out. 

 

Had to +1 you for this Baro.

[baroquenspirit]

Had to +1 you for this Baro.

I won't let it go to my head!