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The more I think about it, if the draft were tomorrow (and we were picking at 2 or 3) I'd really be pounding the table for Stanley. I know that would be seen as being out of left-field, but going forward I think he'd be absolutely fantastic for us.

 

I still suspect we get a few wins together and end up in the 8-15 kinda range, and at that point I feel Ramsey would be a dream for our secondary, but as things stand Stanley's another guy I'm excited over. 

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The more I think about it, if the draft were tomorrow (and we were picking at 2 or 3) I'd really be pounding the table for Stanley. I know that would be seen as being out of left-field, but going forward I think he'd be absolutely fantastic for us.

 

I still suspect we get a few wins together and end up in the 8-15 kinda range, and at that point I feel Ramsey would be a dream for our secondary, but as things stand Stanley's another guy I'm excited over. 

i think if we end up in the 8-15 range then ramsey is long gone by the time we pick, i think he goes top 5 unless something disastrous happens. but yeah if we have the pick of the litter it comes down to stanley or bosa, the most dominant defensive prospect since suh, or the cornerstone left tackle. i personally prefer the left tackle because they are just so few and far between.

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Bosa. Beast..pressures QB on nearly every snap. Reads plays..never gets tired..

 

best player in the draft. Ramsey or hargreaves would be other options but they will likely be picked between 4-8

 

 

nothing is going to stop us from getting n1..

 

we better lose vs jacksonville.

Now that's the spirit. Nothing is going to stop us.

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I've seen tape of him. You're right. He's impressive, I might have to jump on that hype train with you. 

Glad to hear it. He's really impressive. I was honestly surprised when I saw him play. I can't believe nobody really talks about the guy, but I did hear the announcers gushing over him as much as I was when I watched the game, so perhaps he's getting some notice and recognition now. I think he could rise by the time of the draft. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he went high second round or even in the first round. I think this guy has a ton of talent and he could rise if he has a good combine with a good Senior Bowl. 

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i think if we end up in the 8-15 range then ramsey is long gone by the time we pick, i think he goes top 5 unless something disastrous happens. but yeah if we have the pick of the litter it comes down to stanley or bosa, the most dominant defensive prospect since suh, or the cornerstone left tackle. i personally prefer the left tackle because they are just so few and far between.

I don't know about that. I think Ramsey will go around the 8th to 15th pick. I think we certainly have a very good shot at him. I honestly think some people here get a little too drunk on the idea that guys will be gone before X pick. It's often the case people just get it wrong and fail to get it right. Don't get me wrong because it has happened, but I can't remember the last time two defensive backs went in the top 10. 

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I don't know about that. I think Ramsey will go around the 8th to 15th pick. I think we certainly have a very good shot at him. I honestly think some people here get a little too drunk on the idea that guys will be gone before X pick. It's often the case people just get it wrong and fail to get it right. Don't get me wrong because it has happened, but I can't remember the last time two defensive backs went in the top 10. 

I believe that'd be 2010, when Eric Berry went at 5 and Joe Haden at 7. No reason Ramsey and VH3 couldn't be that good, but I agree Ramsey slips a little. If we're picking in the top half of the draft, I'd be confident we have a shot at him.

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Glad to hear it. He's really impressive. I was honestly surprised when I saw him play. I can't believe nobody really talks about the guy, but I did hear the announcers gushing over him as much as I was when I watched the game, so perhaps he's getting some notice and recognition now. I think he could rise by the time of the draft. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he went high second round or even in the first round. I think this guy has a ton of talent and he could rise if he has a good combine with a good Senior Bowl. 

I'm going to watch more tape on him. I'm not impressed by these first round pass rushers and I'm kinda falling out with Leonard Floyd. 

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I would be a little upset if they passed up on a player like Nkemdiche, Bosa, or Hargreaves for Stanley. Stanley just doesn't play with a nasty or mean streak, which I don't like, even if he's pretty sound and athletic. I want that lineman to be nasty.

Not to mention that Monroe is only 28 and as long as he's healthy, he's been very good. He was amazing in 2013 and he's rivaling that level these past two games.

I think Urschel can fill in at left guard. Finding a quality pass rusher the level of Bosa isn't easy to do and finding an elite talent like Hargreaves and Ramsey is about equal. I mean, honestly, I don't think they can go wrong, but I'd prefer defense to a left tackle

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I would be a little upset if they passed up on a player like Nkemdiche, Bosa, or Hargreaves for Stanley. Stanley just doesn't play with a nasty or mean streak, which I don't like, even if he's pretty sound and athletic. I want that lineman to be nasty.

Not to mention that Monroe is only 28 and as long as he's healthy, he's been very good. He was amazing in 2013 and he's rivaling that level these past two games.

I think Urschel can fill in at left guard. Finding a quality pass rusher the level of Bosa isn't easy to do and finding an elite talent like Hargreaves and Ramsey is about equal. I mean, honestly, I don't think they can go wrong, but I'd prefer defense to a left tackle

I'm so conflicted on who I want. So this is what it feels like to have your pick of the litter? Lol, surely an abnormal feeling around here. I think that if the draft was tomorrow, I would want to go with Hargreaves because I think he's the safest pick of those guys. I really love Ramsey as a FS for this team, but I just don't know about him in the top-5. That seems a bit early for him in all honesty, and I believe FS is a major, major need and he would be BPA at that point. 

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Think it is going to be pure BPA here, we could use help everywhere besides QB and SS. RB needs the future stud, WR duh, TE duh, O-line probably no K.O. plus Monroe dealing with nagging injuries. D-line could be put over the top with the right player to mask a weak secondary, OLB duh, LB with Daryl Smith aging and Mosely struggling in coverage would love a guy who could hang with TEs, CB duh, FS duh. Personally I just want our pick to be a future leader of the team and HOF guy, we are due for another home run.

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I'm so conflicted on who I want. So this is what it feels like to have your pick of the litter? Lol, surely an abnormal feeling around here. I think that if the draft was tomorrow, I would want to go with Hargreaves because I think he's the safest pick of those guys. I really love Ramsey as a FS for this team, but I just don't know about him in the top-5. That seems a bit early for him in all honesty, and I believe FS is a major, major need and he would be BPA at that point.

Could always trade back like three or four picks, get a first rounder next year, and get Ramsey or whoever is still left over. I'd be cool with that
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I love the draft, watch the draft, read the draft analysts predictions, but when it comes to picking players for the Ravens I leave it to the pros in the knows -- Joe Hortiz and his staff to sort through the prospects and Ozzie and Eric to pick the right people to make the Ravens winners. Wishing and hoping like the rest of you, I think we get 3 top tier players with our early picks and some solid depth with our mid-round picks.

 

We need a RB, a 2 WRs, 2 edge rushers, and 3 dbacks...all with speed and athleticism. All in all a very tall order. So much can happen in 6 months time.

 

PS  You can throw an o-lineman in there also.

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if we pick top 3, then whatever team is picking last out of KC, HOU, and NO will be in a bidding war for our pick so they can take jared goff if he isnt already gone. if the ravens finish as badly as i think they will, we are gonna walk away from these next 2 drafts LOADED.

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if we pick top 3, then whatever team is picking last out of KC, HOU, and NO will be in a bidding war for our pick so they can take jared goff if he isnt already gone. if the ravens finish as badly as i think they will, we are gonna walk away from these next 2 drafts LOADED.

Or Ozzie will trade down for an aging vet and miss a dynamic prospect or just grab the best O-lineman

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if we pick top 3, then whatever team is picking last out of KC, HOU, and NO will be in a bidding war for our pick so they can take jared goff if he isnt already gone. if the ravens finish as badly as i think they will, we are gonna walk away from these next 2 drafts LOADED.

Long as we can still get Ramsey.
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Long as we can still get Ramsey.

agreed

 

Or Ozzie will trade down for an aging vet and miss a dynamic prospect or just grab the best O-lineman

if that olineman happens to be tunsil or stanley then we would be in great shape. a franchise LT is almost always a better value than a skill position, LT is still the 2nd most important position after a qb. and lets be real, ozzie isnt gonna trade valuable resources like a high first for an aging vet, you just sound like you blindly hate ozzie because hes tactical and doesnt make sexy splash signings and picks.

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Is it too early to start complaining/speculating that Ozzie is going to trade out of the first round?

were speculating a trade back, which really would be brilliant, but it may just about impossible to trade out of the first round from a top 5 pick lol

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were speculating a trade back, which really would be brilliant, but it may just about impossible to trade out of the first round from a top 5 pick lol

 

Jokes. I find the reputation that Ozzie trades out amusing. There has only been 3 times we haven't picked in the first round. 2004, 2010, and 2012. 

 

We lost 04 to move up and take Boller, 2010 Denver gave us what we gave up for Boldin (and some), and 2012 where we moved back 5 spots and picked up a fourth round.

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Before the draft we need to get some positions addressed in FA, since we'll finally have some coin and cap space. Then in draft target the best player we can get. In the next draft I believe it's Stanley and I hope we have a shot at him.

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Before the draft we need to get some positions addressed in FA, since we'll finally have some coin and cap space. Then in draft target the best player we can get. In the next draft I believe it's Stanley and I hope we have a shot at him.

i too like stanley, and im thinking more and more that a franchise LT would do more for this team in the short and long term than any other pick, if tunsil comes back and dominates the remainder of the year then one of the top 2 OT's are likely pushed out of the top 5, and if were picking in the top 5 and are able to trade back just a few spots and still land the 2nd OT and get an extra first round pick... this team will be setting itself up for another 8 years of dominance, maybe even a better run than joes first 8 years.

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I would be a little upset if they passed up on a player like Nkemdiche, Bosa, or Hargreaves for Stanley. Stanley just doesn't play with a nasty or mean streak, which I don't like, even if he's pretty sound and athletic. I want that lineman to be nasty.

Not to mention that Monroe is only 28 and as long as he's healthy, he's been very good. He was amazing in 2013 and he's rivaling that level these past two games.

I think Urschel can fill in at left guard. Finding a quality pass rusher the level of Bosa isn't easy to do and finding an elite talent like Hargreaves and Ramsey is about equal. I mean, honestly, I don't think they can go wrong, but I'd prefer defense to a left tackle

I do wish Stanley would show that mean streak that many great o-linemen possess. He also isn't very strong and it has shown at times against bigger, stronger guys like Shaq Lawson, and even a smaller guy like Sua Cravens has exposed it. Don't get me wrong, Stanley is a great prospect who does has the frame to get stronger. I really do like him, he just may not be that sure-fire franchise LT some have made him out to be. He's not perfect.

 

I also would be kind of disappointed to see us pass up one of those top tier defenders for him. I get BPA, but a great young defender would probably turn this team around more than an LT, especially when we already have a good (not great) one, would.

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Bosa. Beast..pressures QB on nearly every snap. Reads plays..never gets tired..

best player in the draft. Ramsey or hargreaves would be other options but they will likely be picked between 4-8

nothing is going to stop us from getting n1..

we better lose vs jacksonville.

Unless we get him and then you'll be calling him a bust after 1 bad game

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Has anyone started playing the draft games yet. I just had the most unrealistic one yet lol. We were picking 2nd. I only did 4 rds.

Rd.1: Hargreaves

Rd. 2: Myles Jack

Rd. 3: Travin Dural

Rd. 4: Eric Murray

Rd. 4 : Carl Nassib

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Has anyone started playing the draft games yet. I just had the most unrealistic one yet lol. We were picking 2nd. I only did 4 rds.

Rd.1: Hargreaves

Rd. 2: Myles Jack

Rd. 3: Travin Dural

Rd. 4: Eric Murray

Rd. 4 : Carl Nassib

honestly... the most unrealistic thing there is that we take hargreaves at 2nd overall..

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honestly... the most unrealistic thing there is that we take hargreaves at 2nd overall..

Hard to choose him over Stanley and Bosa, but I was content with Monroe atleast until next year, and as far as Bosa and everyone else, I'm a huge fan of Hargreaves, and I want playmakers in the secondary asap. Bias maybe

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Hard to choose him over Stanley and Bosa, but I was content with Monroe atleast until next year, and as far as Bosa and everyone else, I'm a huge fan of Hargreaves, and I want playmakers in the secondary asap. Bias maybe

 

I would take Hargreaves over everyone but Bosa and Nkemdiche to be honest, only because he is the top player at his position and that position happens to be one of our biggest needs. I strongly believe we go defense in the first round and pass on an OT or wide receiver unless we trade back

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I'm so conflicted on who I want. So this is what it feels like to have your pick of the litter? Lol, surely an abnormal feeling around here. I think that if the draft was tomorrow, I would want to go with Hargreaves because I think he's the safest pick of those guys. I really love Ramsey as a FS for this team, but I just don't know about him in the top-5. That seems a bit early for him in all honesty, and I believe FS is a major, major need and he would be BPA at that point.

I just don't think we will have a top 5 pick anyway. I see us ending up in the 8-13 range. Possible he could fall that far. Hope he falls that far. Regardless I think we HAVE to go defense.
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