Cut, Trade, or Re-sign

[rmcjacket23]

We have boyle too.. all 3 could start I think we could trade one of them for a 3rd or 4th... pitta should retire

At best, you'd get the same value for what you drafted them at, although Max Williams would be worth less.

 

Doesn't make much sense to trade cheap, somewhat talented players.

 

Plus, most teams in the league have guys just like Crockett and Boyle.

[Ravens2343]

Cut Webb, Marlon, Arthur brown, kendrick

TRADE a TE

Resign juice

 

No way we trade a TE, they are a strength of ours moving forward.  I think we would try and trade Arthur Brown or Marlon Brown before cutting them.  Arthur is more likely to stay I believe.  Juice does not need to be resigned yet, he has another year left on his deal after this one.

 

I think we cut Daryl Smith unless he takes a paycut.  A surprise trade could be Monroe, if we are able to get Stanley or Tunsil in the draft.  I admit though that is very unlikely

Edited October 16, 2015 by Ravens2343

[rmcjacket23]

No way we trade a TE, they are a strength of ours moving forward.  I think we would try and trade Arthur Brown or Marlon Brown before cutting them.  Arthur is more likely to stay I believe.  Juice does not need to be resigned yet, he has another year left on his deal after this one.

 

I think we cut Daryl Smith unless he takes a paycut.  A surprise trade could be Monroe, if we are able to get Stanley or Tunsil in the draft.  I admit though that is very unlikely

I think people generally significantly overestimate the value of a lot of our players. Don't know too many teams in this league that would be interested in either of the Brown's based on what they've shown on the field (or what they haven't shown).

 

6th or 7th round pick at best, and I'd be stunned if you get that. And chances are that player won't amount to anything in the league either, because they rarely do.

[Ravens2343]

I think people generally significantly overestimate the value of a lot of our players. Don't know too many teams in this league that would be interested in either of the Brown's based on what they've shown on the field (or what they haven't shown).

 

6th or 7th round pick at best, and I'd be stunned if you get that. And chances are that player won't amount to anything in the league either, because they rarely do.

 

Sometimes teams take fliers on guys like them because they are young and cheap.  I cannot see a scenario where Marlon Brown is part of this team next year, unless he has practice squad eligibility.  I hope we hang onto Arthur Brown through the offseason atleast, I think we move on from Smith and he could be a potential replacement.

[RaineV1]

Teams will usually be willing to trade a late round pick for a player that could fit their needs. It's how the Ravens ended up with Will Davis and Givens. But you won't get much out of it.

[deacfan]

2 years 2 IR's that's a bad trend. I cant see them guys justifying 2 roster spots again going into 2016

Camp wasn't Ired last year. He had 4 catches in the patriots game...

 

He was a healthy scratch for 4 of the 7 games he didn't play in last year. He has a 3 week injury this season but they couldn't wait for Smith Periman and Camp to get healthy. The ravens will not cut his talent. 

[rmcjacket23]

Sometimes teams take fliers on guys like them because they are young and cheap.  I cannot see a scenario where Marlon Brown is part of this team next year, unless he has practice squad eligibility.  I hope we hang onto Arthur Brown through the offseason atleast, I think we move on from Smith and he could be a potential replacement.

Sure, but most of the time that's when they don't think that team will cut them.

 

I think every team in the league who is interested knows that Marlon Brown likely won't be on the team next year, because we would probably cut him.

 

Maybe a conditional 7th round pick for a guy like that, but again, to me, that's pretty close to just an outright release.

[Tenacious Faulker]

Trade KO for a 3rd rounder? I think Urshel's ready.

If we lose him to free agency then we might a 3rd round comp pick for him in 2017.  He's going to ask for (and likely get from some team) more than the Raves are willing to spend on him and they'll retain Yanda.

 

Any player that is still under a rookie deal that people here say should be cut should rethink that.  They're cheap talent and don't impact the cap as much even when tey get IR'ed part way into the season.  It just doesn't make sense economically speaking unless they need to make rom for another FA.  Therefore, Camp and LT will stay a Raven, Elam and Arthur Brown require additional thought since they've been paid their guaranteed money, but have another year (we won't might not get a comp pick in 2017 if dropped), 

 

Pitta may end up with an injury settlement for the remained of his $16M guarranty if he can no longer play.  Otherwise the team will have his salary in the books as dead money until 2018.  They need to satisfy another $7M to make that happen tho and Joe's salary is going to double next season.  This is a really bad situation for th team, but had that freak accident not happened would've otherwise been a good contract.

 

Webb has a great relationship with the team.  Unlike other "what have you done for me lately GMs" Ozzie will work with the players that have been good for the team, good men and dealt with him in good faith.  Webb's contract was a combination of that, inflated 2010 stats in having Ed Reed disrupt plays he could capitalize on and a lack of overall CB talent that year which made Webb more valuable than it should've.

 

Daryl Smith is not a bad contract, and he's an underrated player and leader.  If the secondary would do their damn job then the linebackers (including Mosely) wouldn;t be caught in the middle against teama that expose our DBs as the charlatans that they are this year.  Smith is a good pass coverage linebacker and not a great run stopper which was known athis signing.  If the Ravens had to part ways with him they cold now as he's been paid all his guaranteed money.  

 

Canty is cuttable in 2016 if they feel his leadership, waning skills and increasing injury risk are no longer worth their time.

[Ravens2343]

Saw Jeff Zrebiec reported that the Ravens are close to an extension with Yanda, should get done very soon.  This deal has been a long time coming, or maybe they are creating cap space to make a trade?

[iceripper]

Saw Jeff Zrebiec reported that the Ravens are close to an extension with Yanda, should get done very soon.  This deal has been a long time coming, or maybe they are creating cap space to make a trade?

It's a 4 year extension. As far as I know Ozzie it wasn't a cheap but affordable deal.

[GrimCoconut]

Saw Jeff Zrebiec reported that the Ravens are close to an extension with Yanda, should get done very soon. This deal has been a long time coming, or maybe they are creating cap space to make a trade?

Probably a lot of both. No need to wait until the offseason. He's clearly the guy to keep over KO. Maybe we'll still re-sign KO, but we at least have less pressure.

[Gordo52]

It's official

[jazz1988]

I wonder if Yanda contract extension give The Ravens more cap space now.

[rmcjacket23]

I wonder if Yanda contract extension give The Ravens more cap space now.

I understand why people ask this... but... does it really matter?

 

I mean what good does cap space NOW do us? We're 1-4 and there's no legitimate players out there to sign.

[Cillmatic]

I understand why people ask this... but... does it really matter?

I mean what good does cap space NOW do us? We're 1-4 and there's no legitimate players out there to sign.

He's referring to the 2016 cap.

[Drew P]

Camp wasn't Ired last year. He had 4 catches in the patriots game...

 

He was a healthy scratch for 4 of the 7 games he didn't play in last year. He has a 3 week injury this season but they couldn't wait for Smith Periman and Camp to get healthy. The ravens will not cut his talent. 

 

Dead space just like Perriman he should have been placed on IR. He's cheap and contributes but injury prone to say the least. It doesn't make sense to waste a valuable roster slot on a guy under his rookie contract.

[jazz1988]

I understand why people ask this... but... does it really matter?

 

I mean what good does cap space NOW do us? We're 1-4 and there's no legitimate players out there to sign.

 

We're 1-4 but the playoffs aren't completely out of reach it just became alot more harder to get there.  I was asking in general if Yanda contract gives The Ravens more cap space but you just never know what may happen honestly. Ozzie might trade for another player or just keep the extra cap space for next year.

Edited October 16, 2015 by jazz1988

[cushrinada1986]

Dead space just like Perriman he should have been placed on IR. He's cheap and contributes but injury prone to say the least. It doesn't make sense to waste a valuable roster slot on a guy under his rookie contract.Is 

Is camp already on year 4? if not I say let him at least stay for practice and then if he gets injured then release him next season.

[PurpleCity5]

Cut: Kendrick Lewis, Chris Canty, Marlon Brown

 

Trade: None

 

Resign: Brandon Williams, Justin Tucker 

 

Kendrick Lewis has been very inconsistent, one moment he'll make a big play, then the next he'll give up one. He's not a terrible player, but at best he's average. We need a FS who can cover with range, that can compliment Will Hill(Damn I want Jalen Ramsey). He's also at times been a poor run stopper and has missed plenty of tackles. If you can't cover and defend the run, then I don't know what you can do quiet honestly. Canty was great week 1 against Denver, I was very impressed with what he could do but that calf injury has kept him out for a while and can surely build up some rust for him. Marlon Brown has been disappointing. Lacks toughness and doesn't play up to his height, quiet honestly I don't see him staying. 

 

I feel that we should keep Brandon Williams a Raven. Great Football player and an even Greater Person. No question you want to keep Brandon Williams a Raven for years to come. Tucker has won us a lot of games, I'm a fan of his, but I question how much we value him.  

[omar586]

Resigned: Yanda, Tucker, Aiken, Ross, Orr and Jensen

 

Traded: Maybe Elam

 

Cut: Canty, Webb, and Daryl Smith (Maybe Zuttah)

 

Hopefully Pitta retires and I think we give Taliaferro and Campanaro a chance in camp and preseason to see if they can stay healthy

i can see canty getting cut, but not zuttah, smith. smith is still playing lights out for his age.

 

elam maybe cut, who the heck is gonna trade for elam, maybe for  bag chips.lol

 

tucker is #1 priority now that Yanda is extended.

Edited October 16, 2015 by omar586

[VeiledPsychosis]

Or teams can just sign him in the offseason without giving up the pick...

A third isn't going to happen but he could definitely be traded, sort of the same situation with Ngata. A team will trade so they know they will get him, if he hits the open market then the price willl skyrocket. Get him into X team and you have time to negotiate a contract before the offseason comes.

[Ravens2343]

i can see canty getting cut, but not zuttah, smith. smith is still playing lights out for his age.

 

elam maybe cut, who the heck is gonna trade for elam, maybe for  bag chips.lol

 

tucker is #1 priority now that Yanda is extended.

 

Daryl Smith looks like he has lost a little bit this season, maybe its just me.  Id love if he took a paycut and stayed.  Zuttah is interesting because we restructured his deal, he might stay now.  If we cannot trade Elam then I think we should keep him as depth.  Tucker should be resigned but I wouldn't be shocked if we hit him with the franchise tag

[VeiledPsychosis]

Dead space just like Perriman he should have been placed on IR. He's cheap and contributes but injury prone to say the least. It doesn't make sense to waste a valuable roster slot on a guy under his rookie contract.

Injury prone? he's had one injury...Camp is injury prone, Perriman has in no way proven to be injury prone. It's not a "wasted spot" if he is going to play this year, would have already happened but reaggrivations happen and they can't be predicted.

[omar586]

Daryl Smith looks like he has lost a little bit this season, maybe its just me.  Id love if he took a paycut and stayed.  Zuttah is interesting because we restructured his deal, he might stay now.  If we cannot trade Elam then I think we should keep him as depth.  Tucker should be resigned but I wouldn't be shocked if we hit him with the franchise tag

elam has been dissapointing

 

zuttah is actually playing way better than last year.

 

tucker is # 1 priority right now.

[VeiledPsychosis]

Daryl Smith looks like he has lost a little bit this season, maybe its just me.  Id love if he took a paycut and stayed.  Zuttah is interesting because we restructured his deal, he might stay now.  If we cannot trade Elam then I think we should keep him as depth.  Tucker should be resigned but I wouldn't be shocked if we hit him with the franchise tag

Based off who we have on the roster right now, even if Smith has lost a step he is still clearly the second best (and at times the best) ILB we have. If we draft someone I suspect Orr or Brown will be gone before Smith because Smith a little less good is still pretty darn good. And I think Orr could probably last on the PS if need be.

[Ravens2343]

elam has been dissapointing

 

zuttah is actually playing way better than last year.

 

tucker is # 1 priority right now.

 

Elam surely has, but his cap hit is not that big next year and he is still young.  I think we keep him and Arthur Brown around one more season.  Zuttah is playing well, but if we cut him, Canty and possibly Webb, then I think we could look into resigning KO and moving Urschel to C.  Tucker will be in Baltimore next year whether a new contract or the tag, I am willing to bet big on that one.  I could see a team next year without most of our older players on it: Zuttah, Pitta, SSS, Canty, Smith, Webb and Lewis all could be gone

[Drew P]

Injury prone? he's had one injury...Camp is injury prone, Perriman has in no way proven to be injury prone. It's not a "wasted spot" if he is going to play this year, would have already happened but reaggrivations happen and they can't be predicted.

 

Referring to Camp he cant handle the NFL

[Ravens2343]

Based off who we have on the roster right now, even if Smith has lost a step he is still clearly the second best (and at times the best) ILB we have. If we draft someone I suspect Orr or Brown will be gone before Smith because Smith a little less good is still pretty darn good. And I think Orr could probably last on the PS if need be.

 

I don't think he is bad, but I think the FO will put a bigger emphasis on getting younger moving forward.  In an earlier post I mentioned how I would like to see us replace Smith with someone like Sean Spence in free agency.  We need to get faster on defense, but I would like if Smith stayed but split snaps with someone else

[VeiledPsychosis]

I don't think he is bad, but I think the FO will put a bigger emphasis on getting younger moving forward.  In an earlier post I mentioned how I would like to see us replace Smith with someone like Sean Spence in free agency.  We need to get faster on defense, but I would like if Smith stayed but split snaps with someone else

That veteran leadership we should not overlook, right now he is pretty much the only real real vet on the D. I'm not a Spence fan, disregarding the fact that he is a steeler, I've never thought he was really any good. Speed shouldn't be priority #1, just because a guy is a little faster doesn't mean he can play, I'd rather take a complete ILB that is a little slow than someone that just has speed any day of the week. Speed is so overrated, that business model just doesn't work out in the NFL.

[Ravens2343]

That veteran leadership we should not overlook, right now he is pretty much the only real real vet on the D. I'm not a Spence fan, disregarding the fact that he is a steeler, I've never thought he was really any good. Speed shouldn't be priority #1, just because a guy is a little faster doesn't mean he can play, I'd rather take a complete ILB that is a little slow than someone that just has speed any day of the week. Speed is so overrated, that business model just doesn't work out in the NFL.

 

We would still have Suggs and Dumervil (assuming they are both back).  Smith is good and I love what he has done here, but we should make speed a high priority moving forward.  We may have the slowest roster in the NFL and it has shown at times this year.  Spence has been starting for the Steelers the last few games and has looked pretty good.  Nonetheless I wouldn't be surprised if we brought in some competition at linebacker through F/A and the draft.  We need to shake things up