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[News] John Harbaugh: We're A Blitzing Team

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When the CBs are at least 10 yards back and we have so many pieces changing in the secondary there will always be ways that the QBs can take advantage of us. If we are going to blitz, then we need to be playing full press and one on one coverage. Otherwise when the blitz does not get to the QB and we are playing zone defense, we end up giving away big plays.

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blitzing? i like the attitude but blitzes do not mean anything when your corners are playing soft. or the corners don't hit on the hit to ruin the timing. and continue to blitz when the ravens have the lead because the secondary can not stop pooh bear from the honey jar.

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Noooooooooooooooooo sorry coach but I saw it and every time the Ravens blitz they got burned! Gotta rush four no more than five and spread out the rest! It helps the secondary until they can gel! Fake blitzing can work also and when the Ravens get in the playoffs "PIN THEIR EARS BACK"! For now just CHILL!

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I just want them to play aggressive. No software coverage and no standing around in zones. If you get beat, learn from it. No free easy passes. Above all, play smart.

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The secondary and the defensive line need to be in sync. First, if your going to blitz half the time, then you have to either get to or hurry the qb. Don't abandon your cb for 15 seconds letting the receivers run wild. Personally, I think if someone else watched that film except Harbaugh and Pees they may find a few more than 3 plays with bad calls. I think that estimate is very conservative, very conservative indeed. When I see blitzes on half the plays and then on those blitzes we have our cbs standing 15 yards off the line, that sounds to me like about 45 bad calls out of 90 not 3.

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Somebody needs to teach Pees something other than zero blitz(cover zero). Sending the house every other play is just a big log jam. Pagano and Ryan had lots of success with safety or corner blitz. Mix it up a little.

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Im good with attacking BLITZING! Look people you dont have to like it... But no Sizzle. So no HOFr DE/OLBr to demand double teams GAME CHANGER!!!

Safeties are crap. Jimmy Smith is the only man in the CB crew, Webb is injured again.

Let me give credit to Brandon Williams, and Carl Davis they look like legit players in run stuffing.

But if you have NO HOF Players your screwed. For the last 10 years... We had 2 SLAM DUNK Hofrs Ray,Ed.. A should be HOFr Sizzle, and could be HOFr Ngata..

So you bleed by a 1,000 cuts...or maybe you blitz and get enough sacks and stops to win a ball game.

But one thing is for dang sure Ozzies recent draft failures are coming back to haunt us.

They really better start hitting Grand slams in the draft again this year

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Glad to hear it. The issue, though, is that Josh McCown was adjusting protection to those blitzes, moving in the pocket to avoid the rush lanes, and abused us when we had a safety walk down from the defensive backfield. Another user mentioned the zero-blitz / cover-zero.

 

Bringing more bodies than they can block is one thing but it is much more effective when you disguise.

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It all comes down to in past years we had players on defense that were leaders on defense ,making it to where the coaches didnt have to do much but call plays. Now that those players are retired ,gone etc., these coaches are out of sink with teaching and training and now have to earn those checks and it doesnt look like they can handle being coaches and training up these players.

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We blitzed McCown quite a bit, but he kept managing to complete passes down the filed because our corners either can't handle man coverage, or someone was out of position in the zone.

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Coach Harbuagh is trying to force something that is not working. Im tired of watcing us blitz players just for them to get stood up at the line or either get to the QB to late. Years ago our rush was so successful because we had D-lineman capable of getting to the QB fast.

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We blitzed McCown quite a bit, but he kept managing to complete passes down the filed because our corners either can't handle man coverage, or someone was out of position in the zone.

 

Thats because our D-line can hardly get to the QB. I've seen our D-lineman getting stood up way too much this season. And to make it worse, Pees is blitzing guys that should fall back in coverage. He blitzes guys that end up not even getting to the QB, let alone causing a break down in coverage.

 

The problem is pretty simple. We have a mediocre D-line and our safeties are prone to blow coverage, be it Pees's fault or the players.

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The problem isn't the blitzing it's the fact that the blitzes aren't disguised well! My 9 year old can tell when we're blitzing and where it's coming from. When you have a weak secondary and no dynamic pass rusher, you either have to disguise blitzes, or send 4 in exotic ways ala stunting, sending 4 from one side (Overload) and dropping D Linemen into zones. I don't care about Harbaugh and 105.7 making excuses for Pees by saying it's the talent, Pees is not creative enough, PERIOD! Pittsburgh has less talent on their defense yet they are more successful. I wonder why? Because Keith Butler's scheme is less predictable and more confusing

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What Ravens need to do and what they are capable of doing is two different things. Pees does not do a good job of disguising blitzes so they get picked up and result in big plays. What CB do you trust to be on an island?, what safety do you trust to be a ball hawk to cover distance and eliminate a big play? Blitzing (too much) would almost guarantee a blowout. Ravens need to play ball control to limited the opposing offenses possessions, trust the front seven to stop the run which they have the talent to do, and play cover 2. Ravens just don't have the talent on the backend to be aggressive. Play Parcell football since we make every offense look like the 1990 Bills.

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It's fine that we are a blitzing Team, but when Doom got hurt we were done... Our DBs better learn to cover without relying too much on the pass rush. Sure we can't cover every WR forever but our DBs got outplayed so quickly and were stumbling around. We need to step up in coverage and start to play like Ravens!

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Haloti was great for the zone blitz, athletic enough to drop into coverage. We've definitely got run stoppers up front but nobody that athletic.

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Sorry folks but I think the coaches know more about these things than we do. We need healthy players first and foremost. Who knows when that will happen. In the meantime one game at a time. Hopefully a win is nearby. Go Ravens.

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Blitzing all the time only works with solid Corner and Safety play, jamming the receivers at the line. If you want to blitz all day Dean, draw up some safety and corner blitzes and better disguise packages. If you keep sending Doom, Z Smith and CJ we will keep getting killed with 3 step drops and quick outs. We don't have a pass rusher who draws double teams like sizzle, so its simple math, that means every D Lineman and LB are accounted for.

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How depressing. Out of 90 defensive plays, Pees and Harbs only found 3 plays where they feel they should have run a different play? Does that mean that the coaches put the failures within the other 87 plays totally on the players, meaning it's all player technique and execution rather than rethink some of the other plays called also? I realize that the level of play is less than stellar some times but only 3 plays out of 90 were because of bad or ineffective decisions by the DC? How discouraging to read this.

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We just don't have the talent to blitz the way we did last year (and even last year we lacked talent in the secondary). We lost our edge rushers with Suggs and Doom. The Browns knew an ILB blitz was coming every time and checked down for a good gain whenever it happened. We need to add a lot of talent to our pass rush and secondary in draft/FA. (and WR)

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RIP "Organized Chaos!" You talk about our offense being a vanilla package,our defense is in a transparent bag.By the time the 2nd half starts,the opposing OC has already figured out what Pees did,done,and doing so by the 4th. qtr. we can't even stop a nose bleed.Oh,and Flacco should get more mobile,those couple of runs worked real good.I was looking for more of it.

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Blitzing constantly only makes sense if the execution is good enough to bring sufficient pressure on the QB so that we don't leave big enough windows to throw to, if we can't keep up on man coverage. Once we allow offense separation, it's essential that the QB can't make a decent throw. Can we do that?

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Im not giving up... But hypothetically 1-4 right now.. If by Miracle Ravens pull out 3 straight wins vs SF,AZ,SD before bye.. Keep fighting for playoffs. Im not expecting it..

If however they are 1-7,2-6 at bye.. I think Ravens should fully "Tank" put out effort but assume a losing role for a top ten pick.

Cause if they cant get to. 500 by the bye... A top ten pick it better then no playoffs and getting 15-18 pick with 6-10,7-9 record.

You have a better shot at HOF Caliber pkayers in the top ten. And if this scenario unfolded and I was Oz I might try to maximize my picks by trading back a few slots and getting additional first. That way you could pick up 2 Book end Pass Rushers early... Or a Book End Pass Rusher and WR

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and now its time for the "fire pees" brigade to demonstrate exactly why none of them should be taken seriously at all. this is the perfect topic to expose them with.

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and now its time for the "fire pees" brigade to demonstrate exactly why none of them should be taken seriously at all. this is the perfect topic to expose them with.

 

nah they will just spin in another way lol.

 

just look at the dean peas thread on the forum  :lol:

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nah they will just spin in another way lol.

 

just look at the dean peas thread on the forum  :lol:

nah. im not doing that to myself. its best if i remain ignorant to whatever they're talking about over there, i cant handle much nonsense lol.

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