[News] Ravens Waive CB Rashaan Melvin, OLB Jason Babin

[ravensdfan]

Still have Pees so don't really think it matters who we bring in.

[HoldingCall]

I'm surprised by Melvin's release, I thought he would eventually pan out. I don't get to see him practice so I accept the team decision without question. Hey, Daniel Brown is back...Good move (I hope). Konrad is back also! Could one of the TEs ends move to WR (Williams)? No sense, by-passing Asa Jackson on practice any longer, if he doesn't pan out by now it's time to part ways. Babin had a bad start and became a one-man wrecking crew, for the wrong team. No surprised there!

[ravensnj]

People that have impressive preseasons usually are the ones who want to play hard and put it on the line. Play like Ravens! Welcome back Daniel Brown~!

[VeiledPsychosis]

Asa wasn't bad last year when healthy, problem he, like too many players on this team, is never healthy for more than a couple games at a time. Maybe he and James and spark something but so long as Pees is here I doubt it

[ravne05]

Ravens should have a open tryout to the public for the secondary and WR position like that movie about the Eagles called invincible

[boldtown]

well that band-aid was ripped off. wonder how many more the ravens will have this year? harbaugh needs to get off this loyalty kick and get some coaches that are not so freaking predictable. another thing someone in that locker room needs to light the fire in the players. .......maybe they should take some of the 5 hr stuff since the can't play more than 49 minutes

[burnbigben]

Pees is not good. He will be gone after this year.

Grant it there is a lack of talent a key positions but a Great Defensive MIND Maximizes What Talent you do have.

Ravens dont have a Free Safety. Will Hill is a pretty strong tackler in the box safety, not good in coverage 20 yrds deep and Kendrick Lewis is the same. Terrance Brooks I dont know if hes good or not because hes not given a chance to start yet for a prolonged time. I know hes Big Thumper though and they use him often on safety blitzes..which hes pretty good at.

Jimmy Smith is a shutdown CB, but hes a Press Man CB. Dean Pees screws Jimmy and makes Jimmy look bad when he plays 10 yrd off coverage Zone 90% of the time. Jimmy is not Richard Sherman a Zone CB, hes more Darrelle Revis, Patrick Peterson.. Press Man all game long. A D coordinators job is to optimize his players talent and know who his players are..

I bet you anything Rex or Pagano would let Jimmy play Press Man every game.

Last our LBrs are HORRIBLE!!! Cj Mosley as great as he is and hes a pro bowl caliber ILBr, since the day he came into the NFL he hasnt been able to cover RBs in the pass game to save his life. Ray Lewis could do that in his sleep. Mosley can doeverything else,blitz, run stuffer, good instincts, etc but side line to side line speed is not or par with Ray...because he cant cover RBs..and every time Ravens face Bell or a legitimate RB in passing game its brutal. Daryl Smith is just to old now to shut it down.. Ravens need to find a sideline to sideline Speed backer.. See if Art Brown can do the job... Or thsts another hole needing filled through draft.

Ovbiously pass rush..eventual Sizzle replacement

WRs..give joe weapons

 

I agree with almost all of this.  CJ may be a 2 down linebacker given his obvious struggles in man coverage which is unfortunate..  I'm all for bringing in Arthur Brown on 3rd downs for some coverage.

 

I want to see our guys play more press man coverage but I'm afraid our pressure will not be able to get to the QB and leave the back end guys exposed, and I'm sure Dean Pees thinks so as well.. That being said, I'm tired of our guys calling plays scared - If we are gonna lose then at least go down fighting!

 

We just lack heart IMO, both our O and D both cave when crunch time comes around and it is NOT the Ravens team I have grown to love.

[EvilWayz]

I never understood why he wasn't on the field. They signed him and we hardly heard anything about Jason Babin. Its good he's gone, rather than just sitting there taking up some much needed space right now. I don't know what we need to do. Something needs to be done. If we fire Dean Pees now who takes over as his replacement? I know he looks terrible as a DC and needs to go, but I think if he is going to be let go it will be in the offseason. I do believe he is in the hot seat. I don't know if you get rid of both OC and DC. Are we liking what Marc Trestman is doing now, or do he goes along with Pees? I also think there be other coaching staff fired than just Dean Pees, if he is fired. We look terrible this year, and seems like everything that can go wrong has for our Baltimore Ravens. If there is a way out of this, they are going to have to fight with everything they got. Question is can we do it? I think we still have some ray if hope, I don't know what its, but I think we do have some ray of hope. It is really sad to watch what is happening to our Baltimore Ravens.

[ravne05]

I honestly think a craigslist add will be plenty for a new DC at this point I will make up the ad saves Ravens money and time and I think I can get someone good just thank me later.

[trevorsteadman]

I almost want the Ravens to rebuild this season.. But looking at their schedule... They could still be in play off contention. One of the wild cards this year will only have 9 wins if not 8. The AFC is full of teams that are not that good... There is the Patriots, Bengals... Broncos I guess even though their offense is terrible... But like I said both wild card spots are up for grabs. All teams are only at 2 wins or less. I want the higher draft pick but the Ravens have been so close even against the good teams like the Bengals and the Broncos. If somehow they can hold their leads in the fourth quarter... They still look like a play off team the first 58 minutes of every game they have played so far.

[Bat-mite]

Ah, what the heck. Why not. We've got nothing to lose at this point. Babin was a huge disappointment.

[Bob21043]

Hey, we could pick up Randy Edsall - he was Jacksonville's DB coach before going to Maryland. Maybe he could help the Ravens DBs - they've looked bad for years now.

[HoldingCall]

Interesting moves. Why wasn't Melvin put on the practice squad?

I'm thinking Melvin may be in the situation Daniel Brown was in. The team have added others to the practice squad, If they don't pan out they will be gone and Melvin may come back.

[Drew P]

Hey, we could pick up Randy Edsall - he was Jacksonville's DB coach before going to Maryland. Maybe he could help the Ravens DBs - they've looked bad for years now.

 

He was the HC of Connecticut and he's useless

[HoldingCall]

I almost want the Ravens to rebuild this season.. But looking at their schedule... They could still be in play off contention. One of the wild cards this year will only have 9 wins if not 8. The AFC is full of teams that are not that good... There is the Patriots, Bengals... Broncos I guess even though their offense is terrible... But like I said both wild card spots are up for grabs. All teams are only at 2 wins or less. I want the higher draft pick but the Ravens have been so close even against the good teams like the Bengals and the Broncos. If somehow they can hold their leads in the fourth quarter... They still look like a play off team the first 58 minutes of every game they have played so far.

Actually, Jets 3-1; Bills 3-2; and Steelers 3-2; but are not out of reach.

[steelcityraven]

WOW Melvin was waived????? Really???? Why the regression with Melvin also?

[TheConquerorWorm]

Interesting moves. Why wasn't Melvin put on the practice squad?

He has to clear waivers first....

[riseNConquer81]

good. Babin never shouldve been here to begin with, that never made sense.

Melvin was never really that good, didnt understand where all the hype about him came from.

[riseNConquer81]

Interesting moves. Why wasn't Melvin put on the practice squad?

cant practice squad a guy immediately after cutting him. he has to clear waivers

[The Greek]

However, some of the dead money could have been avoided. Some couldn't. (Actually, it can all be avoided, but that's another story) Re-signing Pitta (to the contract he got) was not even close to being a smart move. But, he's Joe's best Bud. 

dislike flacco much? hehehehe

[steelcityraven]

Everyone keeps saying that we have a lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball and that is simply not true. STOP buying into Pees excuses and lies. Nobody is good enough for a coach that isn't cutting it. We have probowl caliber talent at every level of the defense. DL. Brandon Williams is a probowl interior DL. and CDavis is one of the top rookies in the league. TJernigan has probowl talent when he learns to be NFL consistent. LGuy is a solid DL and while maybe not pro bowl level...he is certainly not without talent. OLB. We have Elvis who is a pro bowl LB. We have Upshaw and while he is not pro bowl bc he doesn't put up flashy numbers there are not many in the league better at playing the run... meeting the ball carrier at the point of attack and setting an edge. Just a few years ago... everyone praised Jarrett Johnson for doing that same thing. ILB both CJ and DSmith are pro bowl caliber LBs and I believe that you would be hard pressed to find a better ILB tandem in the NFL then that. CB. Jimmy Smith has pro bowl caliber talent. (when used to his strength). In fact just last season most pundits were calling him one of the top 5 shut down CB's in the NFL. Webb at one time played at that level and we see inconsistent streaks of this talent in his game still but he has grown very inconsistent in a system that does not play to his strengths). Will Hill was a very short time ago being called one of the best Safeties in football. K lewis while maybe not pro bowl caliber looked close to it last year in Houston. He is certainly not without talent. Kyle Arrington was a highly coveted FA CB just at the start of this season... (in fact probably one of the top FA CB's on the market)... and while nobody expected him to come in and be DReevis... he is certainly not without talent. That alone is a great deal of talent on this D and most DC's would kill to have that kind of talent to work with! Stop believing Dean Pees lies. He has had an excuse since he got here. They were too old, We lost too much the next year (when all of those old players retired). THe next season we were re-building and last season we had too many injuries. This season we have no talent? A lot of excuses for not achieving! Stop believing those lies and allowing Pees to place blame elsewhere! There is a great deal of talent on this defense but they are all under achieving and all look very un-prepared come game time. Worse yet... they consistently collapse when the game is on the line and consistently look confused out there (especially from half time on - when other coaches have made adjustments). Who is responsible for that? (On most other teams it is the DC)? IDK why Pees keeps getting a free pass. We have talent don't believe that lie anymore! The only place we don't have pro bowl caliber talent is at the DC position!

[RavensBaltimore]

Givens didn't get any action because Average Joe looks at his first receiver, then freaks. He also stares down the one and only receiver. Next loss, watch him as he drops back. Take away his strong arm and you have a very ordinary QB. On a good day. But, he got his money.

I see Flacco scanning the field, and I see our receivers being blanketed. Almost every receiver we've had plays better with Joe than he did with any other qb, so it makes no sense to blame him for the issues that our receivers have. His #1 receiver right now couldn't even stay on a roster before coming to Baltimore. His #1 before he got injured looked like he was declining in Carolina, and has increased his production at age 35 and 36, which is almost unheard of. You should watch NFL Films analyst Greg Cossel break down and explain Flacco's ability to read defenses, because your analysis isn't even close to being accurate. You simply don't like Flacco and you see things how they suit your purpose.

[steelcityraven]

Givens was more of a decoy then anything at this point and the Browns knew that. He didn't have time to learn the system and be much of a factor vs the Browns - I expect him to be more involved moving forward and starting this week!

[riseNConquer81]

Still have Pees so don't really think it matters who we bring in.

funny how most of you only apply that kind of logic one way

[riseNConquer81]

We have probowl caliber talent at every level of the defense.

no. we. dont.

put the pom poms down, and back away.

[cobrajet]

I agree with almost all of this.  CJ may be a 2 down linebacker given his obvious struggles in man coverage which is unfortunate..  I'm all for bringing in Arthur Brown on 3rd downs for some coverage.

 

I want to see our guys play more press man coverage but I'm afraid our pressure will not be able to get to the QB and leave the back end guys exposed, and I'm sure Dean Pees thinks so as well.. That being said, I'm tired of our guys calling plays scared - If we are gonna lose then at least go down fighting!

 

We just lack heart IMO, both our O and D both cave when crunch time comes around and it is NOT the Ravens team I have grown to love.

I feel the same way. IMHO we just look like we are playing scared at crunch time (especially 4th quarter). The defense is definitly guilty of this but I have seen it from the offense too. We don't have a killer instinct on this team. I think Pees needs to be on the field coaching his unit up.

[Ravens_Flock]

They need to give Jackson another shot KR, because we literally have no one else.

[RavensFootballFan]

Keep mixing it up till the Ravens find the right pieces. Hopefully some of them will work out or bounce back for the better of the team.

[ravenstime]

I hope for good effort from James and Jackson. I have a hunch Asa is our guy and we'll keep him. He plays hard, fumbling problem or not.

[stampedehero]

Babin was invisible but really he had no chance to play and proove himself..   Melvin was ordinary and that was an easy decision for management. (Irony::::That was thought of with Stewart and look what Denver did to him)  All we need is a win in SF and Ariz to capture momentum.  Who will step up?  Got to hope Dum plays, Canty recovers and Croc is in the fold. We don't quit and we don't throw in the towel.  This entire 20th anniversary season deserves a poignant moment where we re-group and start a winning streak. Got to win four in a row. That originates with the D co ordinator and smart play calling within 5 minutes at the end of the 4th Q.   Can't choke at the end. Keep Believing  Shoot for .500 and more The Clevleand and Cincinnatti losses were evastating .