[News] John Harbaugh Not Considering Coaching Changes

[kduo]

Coaches are doing a good job? Really Harbs

[Purple Dawg 96]

The coaches are doing a good job in my eyes it's the Offense! When in OT they just went 3 and out run on 1st and 2nd pass on 3rd and punt and then people want to blame the Defense AGAIN! Noooooooooooooooooo, the Offense gave up and gave the game away! I watch brady manning and big Ben take control of their Offense at times even from the coaches to get something going when is Joe going to show this type of motivation! 120 Million and no drive for perfection just shoulder shrugs and running off the field! 3 and out in OT gave the Browns the win should of been a passing situation to get out our end of the endzone but they went "VANILLA" and now it's convenient to just blame the Defense! "GET OUT OF HERE"!

[RaRaRavens]

LOL, I expressed this opinion just hours before this article:

 

"I see another Cameron case with Pees.

 

Harbaugh will refuse to face the truth and will keep hiding his head under the sand. Meanwhile, Pees will do the best he can to help opposing offenses ridicule our once legendary defense.

 

Fans and pundits will demand the release for months end, but no changes will come. Once we'll lose to the Jaguars offense and people will start calling for Harbaugh's head for not doing anything, he'll finally heroically make this drastic change of firing his DC, like it was his genius idea.

 

Luckily this time there's no fear anymore that Harbaugh's stubbornness could cost us the season - it already has."

 

 

But you know what's the worst part about his statement is? It's that he's basically saying that the losses are our defensive players fault. Because if "the coaches are doing a good job", then it must be on the players. And this is not the case.

 

Our secondary might have had couple of mistakes, but the fact that they are playing 10 yards away from line of scrimmage the whole second half is DC-s call. Watching the game, I can't even see our CB-s on the TV screen, which allows offenses to march down the field with short slants. So most definitely our DC IS NOT doing a good job.

 

But saying such things will frustrate the players and make them lose their confidence even more. The fact of the matter is, we have some exceptional talent on this team. Someone on these boards correctly pointed out, that if all of our starting D were to become FA today, most of them would be picked up by other teams and used as starters immediately.

 

Bottom line - talent is there, coaching is not. And such statements by Harbs prove that he lacks critical thinking towards his staff, which hurts this team and does not make him a top 5 HC in this league.

 

VERY VERY disappointed in Harbs once again.

 

 

*Edit: I'm starting to wonder if Harbs has just benefited from having some of the best players and FO of all time around him during his HC career.

Edited October 13, 2015 by RaRaRavens

[Ravens_Flock]

The truth is, any defensive success we've had with Pees, which hasn't been much, was due to great players we had, not him. His schemes are soft, he has CBs playing 5 miles off of WRs, they can't stop TEs to save their life, etc. His secondary units are traditionally terrible no matter who is playing. Our D used to be a strength. Grandpa Greg Mattison was pretty bad, arguably the worst DC we've ever had.....that is until we got Pees. Pees is without a doubt the worst DC in Ravens history. He is not the ONLY problem with the team, Tressman was always a bad hire and a bad fit for the Ravens from day one, and the "Great" Ozzie has made a lot of misfire draftings and signings the last few years. And good ol' Coach Speak Harbaugh, is still the same as ever. And Joe is still Joe, not "elite", just Joe. But Pees is a major problem, and our D playing the way it does, is sad. It has no more leaders, with Suggs out, and for all we know never playing again, and Ngata gone, all of the veteran legends of our once great D are gone. And it shows. I said we should have paid Ngata, and we should have. But that still wouldn't fix the Pees problem.

[ravlivie]

No brainer,fire Pees. Fans deserve more

[Ultimanick]

Please replace Dean Pees. McCown looks like a probowler Qb. Are you kidding me? WHat would Aaron Rodgers or Brady do to us if we played them?

Its coaching! put players where they play best not your sound. Bend dont break defense. THats a soft approach, Raven players are drafted by how nasty they can play, it needs to match the coaching. As of now. Dean Pees is coaching like a little girl

[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

The sad part is harbs is believing his own crap....we deserve more!

[Hardhitters]

Harbaugh success came from guys who had mouth, alphas, Harbaugh is the problem, he even told Steve Smith to think hard about returning because he's alpha. Harbaugh needs to go, he didn't coach wins he inherited a great defense and a brand new QB, since he sent that defense packing it now shows that his plan doesn't work.

Boldin is perfect example, but I bet Harbaugh was in love with quiet no fight Torrey Smith, now Torrey's out there asking for the ball, he didn't here.

Edited October 13, 2015 by Hardhitters

[RavenManiac#7]

Harbs says that the coaches are doing a good job. Well, if he really thinks Pees is doing a good job, I have to think that he's delusional. Then he says that the coaches have to coach better. Now, he sounds confused. Which one is it, Harbs? Are the coaches doing a good job or do they have to coach better? And don't forget to look in the mirror. Please don't think that I'm advocating that we fire Harbs. I'm Not! I just think, given how things are, Everything has to be looked at and evaluated.

[bozo]

the team is terrible, I said it in preseason they looked bad. the secondary is probably the worst in the nfl. jimmy smith is not good webb is at best average the play off the receivers way too much the let them down the field all day long every game, of course you're going to lose that way.

[bozo]

guys get over it the season is over, we may get the number 1 pick next year. it's not going to change we will continue to lose, next week we will make s.f look like superbowl champs.

[The Mom Gene]

guys get over it the season is over, we may get the number 1 pick next year. it's not going to change we will continue to lose, next week we will make s.f look like superbowl champs.

Nahhhh..  I don't think so.  They look as bad or worst than we do.

 

 

[Hardhitters]

We missed the playoffs then Kubiak took us now we're missing it again. If you really look at our success since Flacco been here it has nothing to do with Harbaugh. If Billick had Flacco instead of Boller we would be killing the AFC

[RavenManiac#7]

"I would answer the phone, Im hoping somebody calls me" - Ed Reed , the Ravens have contacts to make this team electric. Football is entertainment, it is about the show and play on the field. Ed is another waste on talk shows... The guy could teach young players, why not ask him to coach.

I've said this before. First, FIRE PEES! Second, find a way, any way, to talk Ray Lewis out of his job as a commentator and into the job of our DC. It's really going to take some persuading. So, get everybody on board, including his buddy, Ed Reed. Third, replace the current secondary coach with Ed Reed. He has already stated his interest in coaching. Ray Lewis-HC, Ed Reed-SC = Dream Team. Pretty much guaranteed that our defense will play with more intensity, motivation, and effort.

[balfan23]

Harbs says that the coaches are doing a good job. Well, if he really thinks Pees is doing a good job, I have to think that he's delusional. Then he says that the coaches have to coach better. Now, he sounds confused. Which one is it, Harbs? Are the coaches doing a good job or do they have to coach better? And don't forget to look in the mirror. Please don't think that I'm advocating that we fire Harbs. I'm Not! I just think, given how things are, Everything has to be looked at and evaluated.

Harbaugh has been here long enough for you to know how this works. He doesn't call anyone out publicly. He was behind Cam 100% all the way up to the day that he was fired. I think you can rest assured that everything is being looked at and being evaluated. 

 

I think too, it would be unfair for him to try and hold up Pees as the lone problem, when the team has so many shortcomings at the moment - some of which fall on the HC (most notably, the lack of discipline). Finger pointing never yields a positive outcome. 

 

I think we are going to try to carry on with this season as best we can and evaluate when it is over. At that point, if things haven't improved, then changes will be made. I know a lot of fans are champing at the bit for heads to roll and to roll now. Unless we have a coach on staff that we think is our future, then it does little good to fire someone and promote a lame duck. At some level, we have to trust that, internally, plans are being made to eventually go outside the organization if need be and bring in some fresh thinking - especially on the defensive side of the ball. 

[RavenManiac#7]

"Football is about attitude, the will to win and the physical domination on the field"- Ray Lewis what this guy is doing in a suit trying to talk into a microphone has got me, he needs to be on the field coaching young players!

You're right about where he belongs, but he's where he wants to be. He's doing this because he wants to have more time to be around his family. That's why it's going to be such a hard sell, and maybe an impossible one, to get him to take our DC job. Now, Ed Reed is a different story. He has already spoken about his interest in coaching. I would like to see him as our secondary coach. The Real problem is that Harbaugh would NEVER allow either one of those guys to be on his staff because they could actually get some of the credit for any success we might have. Harbs' considerable ego would, undoubtedly, get in the way.

[callahan09]

The coaches are doing a good job in my eyes it's the Offense! When in OT they just went 3 and out run on 1st and 2nd pass on 3rd and punt and then people want to blame the Defense AGAIN! Noooooooooooooooooo, the Offense gave up and gave the game away! I watch brady manning and big Ben take control of their Offense at times even from the coaches to get something going when is Joe going to show this type of motivation! 120 Million and no drive for perfection just shoulder shrugs and running off the field! 3 and out in OT gave the Browns the win should of been a passing situation to get out our end of the endzone but they went "VANILLA" and now it's convenient to just blame the Defense! "GET OUT OF HERE"!

 

Are you serious?  You're putting this on the offense and have no problem with the way this defense has been giving away games since last season?

 

We scored 30 points.  We didn't turn the ball over at all.  We had over 125 rushing yards.  We were AT HOME.  The reason we lost such a game is because of the defense, it's really not up for debate.

 

Do you realize that in the past 10 seasons, there have been 136 such games.  Exactly TWO of them have been losses.  The Ravens game on Sunday against the Browns.  And the Ravens game last year against the Chargers.

 

Outside of our LAST TWO SUCH GAMES, the NFL is 134-0 in these kind of offensive performances at home.

 

We're the only team that can seem to lose these games, and we've done it twice in a row now, and that's because the defense isn't doing their job.

[RavenManiac#7]

Harbaugh has been here long enough for you to know how this works. He doesn't call anyone out publicly. He was behind Cam 100% all the way up to the day that he was fired. I think you can rest assured that everything is being looked at and being evaluated. 

 

I think too, it would be unfair for him to try and hold up Pees as the lone problem, when the team has so many shortcomings at the moment - some of which fall on the HC (most notably, the lack of discipline). Finger pointing never yields a positive outcome. 

 

I think we are going to try to carry on with this season as best we can and evaluate when it is over. At that point, if things haven't improved, then changes will be made. I know a lot of fans are champing at the bit for heads to roll and to roll now. Unless we have a coach on staff that we think is our future, then it does little good to fire someone and promote a lame duck. At some level, we have to trust that, internally, plans are being made to eventually go outside the organization if need be and bring in some fresh thinking - especially on the defensive side of the ball. 

I agree 100% with everything you said. Well put, and well thought out. I admit that I'm an impatient man. It's something I've worked on all my life. So, yeah, I admit I'd like to see a change made when it's obviously needed. But, you're perfectly right about how this organization works. Cameron's ruing the season firing was Extremely rare. In fact, I'm not sure I remember it ever happening before. You're spot on, though, balfan

[b93333]

Whatever the official line from the Ravens may be we all know our owner is no fool. This is clearly a lost year... we need to be focusing on being the best we can be next season. That will certainly include changes on both sides of the ball as well as in the F.O. and/or the coaching staff. I for one have faith in the owner at a minimum.

[Vitalvicious]

I seriously can't believe I just read this garbage!!!! We should be 5-0! On the other hand, we could easily be 0-5 if Josh Scobee could kick

Harbaugh may be going down along with Pees and Trestman, I thought coach Harbaugh was smarter than that, to say the coaches are doing a great job is totally false!

[Stephenjr]

Yeah, players had nothing to do with that. Was just Pees vs all 11 guys on the 49ers offense.

Pees is not holding players accountable.He also does not have them prepared.

[JayTheGreat]

I would really love to see Ed or Ray back on the coaching staff. I think the Ravens coaches & some teammates took Ray and his speaches for granted. It became more of an "Old man ray is preaching again..Oh brother" type of thing rather than really taking in the lessons of Football that could be helping them today smh especially late in games. Harbaugh likes to bring people to facility to visit..(Indiana Hosiers..ect) What in the world is the hold up with bringing Ray in for a convo with these young players on defense..I'll tell u why. [EGO] Harbaugh doesn't want it to be about anything else but him & the team. Its been that way since 2008, When he first arrived here he didn't respect what Ray & those guys brought to the team & the city for that matter. HE even tried to take Rays intro from him. It wasn't until he felt that energy for the first time in the Bengals opener that he concieded & had to "kiss the ring" in a sense. Since then it was a count down until he could fully control the team smh..Dont get me wrong im not bashing Coach Harbaugh he's a great coach & injuries has pegged our team the last few years but sometimes you have to admit when you need a hand. I dont understand why Ray was never brought in to talk to this young Defense since he's retired Especially in the offseason, He's more than just an ex Raven..this man is a Professional Motivational Leader/Speaker, you can't expect someone to be him, but u can expect for him to make an impact on young players lifes. I remember reading earlier this summer about how hard Jernigan was working in the offseason with Ngata gone, & my only thought was "who is showing him how to work hard" Suggs doesn't work out with the team..No one is here teaching them how to go the extra mile to be able to perform at the level we the fans are acustom to seeing. I am rambling but i know i make sense lol Bottom line is If you cant bite the bullet to atleast try & bring Ed or Ray in to speak, coach or do "Something" in the facility none of these young guys will know what it means to "PlayLikeARaven". They single handedly created that phrase!!! yea you can PlayLikeARaven means putting it all out there & giving maximum effort and all that but Those guys brought that attitude here that your trying to pass down to the next generation of Ravens..So why not bring those guys in to show what that really means smh....OK IM DONE...Foreal this time lol

[BSHU_Miami]

Um excuse me harbs????

[RavensBlood2Bone5220]

Don't be surprised if we keep losing like this that changes won't be made. Coach Harbs said the same thing about Cam Cameron and look what happened. Its been up and down with our last few DCs. Rex Ryan:UP-Greg Mattison:Down-Chuck Pagano:UP-Dean Pees: on the way down real fast.

[baltraven2014]

Its official now! I really dislike this Head Coach. He always has these conjecture laced explanations when his team loses. He appears to just say anything that sounds good instead of being a man by telling the truth. No wonder his team stinks. No wonder his team is undisciplined. No wonder these Ravens are the laughing stock of their Division. Leadership! It seems to me if there were a bit more transparency and honesty about this sorry team, the Ravens could began their rebuilding process. Looks like this will be their norm under this unrealistic Coaching mentality!!

[Corvus Maximus]

The Coaches are doing a good job%u2026. Someone ask Harbs what is his criteria? Clearly he is not considering wins and losses. Is there another way besides winning football games to make it to the playoffs? Are these guys out curing cancer, sheltering the homeless, or running an orphanage? God bless them if they are but they are being paid to win football games! Read between the lines %u2013 wins and losses reflect directly on the head coaches%u2019 planning and preparation. Do you hear anyone saying %u201Cthis is not a 1-4 team?%u201D The lone win was against an aging backup QB who had less than one week to prepare. You select any one of the top five head coaches in the league, let them %u2018coach%u2019 this team and Baltimore gets back on top. Harbs no longer has the shadow of a Great D to cover his incompetence. %u201CWe have to collectively find a way%u201D What do you mean %u201Cwe%u201D Kemosabe? You are being paid to provide the answers, make the adjustments, and most important win games%u2026