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[News] John Harbaugh Not Considering Coaching Changes

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This is the same BS we had to deal with with Cam Cameron...Harbs stuck by him for way too long until the ground swell of fan and ownership discontent forced him to do something...Ravens defense built this team and once Ray left, the DC is now exposed...guaranteed Belicheck didn't waste time making the change when he got rid of Pees...how many passes to a tight end does it take to change your scheme?

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"Not considering" means the question was mulled over. After the 49ers or the Cardinals kick the crap out of us

on the road, maybe the FO will figure out that we don't have the men for the job. It's too late to save the season, but at least, we can re-right the ship with new offensive and defensive coaches in preparation for next year.

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he is giving his coaches confidence which i understand. a new dc will not turn around this injury riddled defense at this point anyhow. if a change is made it will be during the bye week especially if we are out of contention which will be the case.

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Harbs just does not want to throw anyone under the bus. If it continues though and things don't change then he will have to revisit this thought process.

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exactly, this is the same thing that happened with cam Cameron and then look what happened. so who is the next worst team besides the 49ers on our schedule and then once we lose to them maybe harbs will see that the dc is the problem. but perhaps at the end of the season he just might be gone keyword might...expect a pass rusher in the first round. and of course cb,offensive line etc. and pick up someone in free agents deff. the cb position is hurt and they can't keep signing free agents then they have to place the other players on ir.

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%u201CThe coaches are doing a good job,%u201D Harbaugh said. %u201CWe%u2019ve just got to collectively find a way to finish games and get the job done. It%u2019s tough challenges that we%u2019re facing, but we%u2019ve got just the men for the job right here.%u201D

If this is a 'good job', I'd hate to see the alternative.

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oh and I forgot someone said this yesterday another fan...if you don't do something harbs or the front office your job may also be on the line as well.

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I think Harbs is just not going to say anything too negative about coaches since there are no replacements. The concern is the continuing to imply its the players. That's a way to lose the team, to start pointing fingers at each other. The mistakes happen every week so I don't think they respect the coaches. When is the players only meeting going to happen? That's the sign of locker room leaders.

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How is Brent Urban promising when he hasn't played a snap yet? I think we put to much into players that look decent in practice or have had a couple decent games a season or 2 ago. Then we take those guys, throw them in at starting spots and say the problem is fixed. All while ignoring solid quality players out there or letting the ones already on the roster go.It gets even worse when those guys on defense go out there and have to play damn near 10 yards off the ball and we expect them to stop big time players like AJ Green,Demaryius Thomas, Amari Cooper and no name TE's (apparently). Offensively I think we are just to complacent, Joe has gotten better as the years have gone by with little help from the FO. Every time he builds chemistry with a receiver thats pretty much a sign his either retiring or otw out the door. Bring in some talent for the guy, play a little more press so every recevier isnt given free reign to run his route, idk what the heck the training staff has to do but the amount of injuries over the last 3 yrs are crazy and Harbaugh is a good guy and great coach but loyal to a fault. Always a fan but we gotta win some games or else its just tank for Bosa time. GO RAVENS!

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why does harbaugh not see dean pees is the problem because he is horrible being our DC.

I think he does. But can you install a new system at this point? No pass rushers, CBs that appear unable to play man to man, miss tackles, penalties, safeties out of position, blitzes giving up big plays, LB that can't cover, and injuries. He probably is in evaluation mode.

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when you leave receivers uncovered as much as the defense does where does the fault lie? Coaching or executing the play. It's just way too many mistakes.

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BmoreRaven1123 you are exactly right. and they have to watch the game footage don't they see that the defenders are like 5-10 yards away from when the receiver catches the ball? they let them catch the ball in space and then tackle them after they have already taken 3-4 steps. You notice how the ravens always get receivers that are already "blossomed" such as boldin,manon,smith and then they draft torrey smith and doesn't do that great. they are not good at selecting and developing recievers they choose the recievers that other teams let go or no longer want who are already developed and only stay on the team for 2-3 years or retire.

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when you leave receivers uncovered as much as the defense does where does the fault lie? Coaching or executing the play. It's just way too many mistakes.

I do not understand how the Browns receivers could be so wide open on Sunday. At times there was not a sole close to being around them.

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Folks need to do some research and look up the precise words and sentiments that Joe and Harbs and Bisciotti used when recalling what actually happened with Cam Cameron. His ultimate and final sin was going against the gameplan the week of that Washington R-word game in 2012. The plan that the coaches devised and Harbs signed off on was to tilt more heavily towards putting the ball in Joe's hands and aiming for the intermediary and deep passing game. Come game day Cameron kept pounding the ball. If you rewatch you can see near halftime of that game that Harbs even got into Cameron's face about the clear Shanghai-ing of the playcalling. Multiple people have gone on the record to say that Cameron was really combative, hard headed and territorial when it came to his playcalling.

So what do we derive from this in the case of 'bend but don't break' spanning over multiple seasons filled with injuries? Pees isn't going rogue here. He's executing a gameplan and soft coverage strategy that Harbaugh has repeatedly blessed.

If it goes awry, which it has, Harbaugh has the luxury of pinning the weakhearted playcalling on Pees and dismissing him. Pees is just following orders here. It's not like he's gone soft in one game. It's happening repeatedly and Harbs hasn't ordered it to change because it's really his choice to play it safe in clutch situations.

This is the genius of having a non-specialist Head Coach whose job is largely big picture stuff and being the PR guy.

Pees is not the problem. Not until he starts to kidnap the playcalling and directly defies Harbaugh's gameplan. Then he'll get fired.

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“The coaches are doing a good job”  "we’ve got just the men for the job right here.” BUT .... "We don’t need to coach harder, we need to coach better." "We’ve got to find a way to make the difference. It’s making plays, it’s calling plays that give guys a chance to make plays in critical situations to get you over the hump.”

 

So Harbs is saying we got the right coaches including Pees, however, the coaches need to coach better and calling plays to give guys a chance to shine .... huh? 

 

Isn't that what the preseason is for? Plus 5 games already played and we need to get better at coaching and calling plays? 

 

That's what Ravens fans have been saying for the past 5 weeks. 

 

Maybe they are holding off on changes till either bye week or after end of season. Maybe there is no one available to hire for now. What a confusing statement. I am not even going to try to figure out and mess up my mind anymore than it already is. lol 

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Why would he consider coaching changes and hire a new head coach, I wouldn't fire myself either, maybe this should have been Steve saying he's not considering changes...

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I don't want to hear, ever again this year the Crown Royal radio commercial "as the Ravens bring home another victory". It ticks me off.

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“The coaches are doing a good job”  "we’ve got just the men for the job right here.” BUT .... "We don’t need to coach harder, we need to coach better." "We’ve got to find a way to make the difference. It’s making plays, it’s calling plays that give guys a chance to make plays in critical situations to get you over the hump.”

 

So Harbs is saying we got the right coaches including Pees, however, the coaches need to coach better and calling plays to give guys a chance to shine .... huh? 

 

Isn't that what the preseason is for? Plus 5 games already played and we need to get better at coaching and calling plays? 

 

That's what Ravens fans have been saying for the past 5 weeks. 

 

Maybe they are holding off on changes till either bye week or after end of season. Maybe there is no one available to hire for now. What a confusing statement. I am not even going to try to figure out and mess up my mind anymore than it already is. lol

Harbs will not make any coaching changes unless he is able to hire more of his buddies

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You've got it right on the head, law215. My biggest problem is with our secondary. They're not covering anyone (the opposition's QB has his pick of who to throw to, with no bad choices around), also, we're not tackling well and, finally, maybe just re-iterating here, but our Linebackers are over-matched covering backs. Now, we've had tons of players playing the secondary, due to our starters getting injured, so why is it that 8 different players or more, are stinking up the joint? How can every CB or S, including Jimmy Smith, have bad games all the way through??

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I do not understand how the Browns receivers could be so wide open on Sunday. At times there was not a sole close to being around them.

That's all Pees knows and Harbs is ok with it as he believes the "coaches" are doing a good job. Let's see if he still feels that way after we lose the next 4 games

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