Tank?

[ravensfan2430]

Tanked?... They have already tunked.

[cobrajet]

You can't have coaches and players officially tank especially when we are not mathematically eliminated. What you can do is play guys like Arthur Brown to see if he is worth tying up a roster spot and keep playing guys like Boyle and Jeremy Ross to see if they can continue to improve. Guys have to play hard and try to win and coaches have to coach to win to truly evaluate them. If they fail then you clean house all the while getting a better schedule and draft picks.

Edited October 13, 2015 by cobrajet

[fistfullwales]

Not sure if this has been addressed, but we can "tank" without tanking. We could trade away guys who will become free agents or who we may cut in the offseason to gather picks and young talent. I know it's the NFL and these types of liquidations aren't as prevalent as in baseball, but this is a way to tank without the guys on the field giving less than 100%. Let the young guys battle for spots next year. Treat the rest of the season as a preseason for next year. Just a thought.

[slangin_birds]

i made this account in the beginning of preseason after being an avid reader of this site for years, and was excited about our teams chances this year and contributing to the discussion...however, since the season started, it has been one face palm moment after another, and i couldnt muster the will to talk about what i was seeing lol. now granted, im relatively young (21), but have been watching the ravens since around our first super bowl win. one thing i can say looking at this team compared to teams of years past is that we truely lack an identity on defense. after suffering through a browns-like carousel of qbs for a few years, id say that position as well as the offense as a whole is in relatively decent shape, but does not have a defense that can step up to the plate. the personality of our defense has often mirrored the personality of the defensive coordinators, which i think is apparent now more than ever. in regards to tanking, it is obviously not in the ravens nature to consider such a thing, but our future prospects for this season look pretty damn bleak to say the least. the pressure will be on the FO when we are picking in the top 10 this upcoming draft to not have a major whiff.

     also, a little off topic, but speaking of top draft picks, does anyone else vaguely remember reading an article a few months ago about some weird degeneritive condition or something of the sort that breshad perriman has as well as his father? and could that possibly be contributing to him missing a little more than "a few days" with his knee sprain?

[Bmoreazfan]

No chance we intentionally lose... but rest assured with the level of coaching we have in Pees and Trestman it is guarantied we will get a top draft pick. No way Treadwell goes in the top 5 and I don't want to see another receiver drafted in the first round regardless. If Breshad doesn't pan out that proves our front office has no business drafting wr's in round 1. Stick to the Defense in round 1! Regardless of how hard our team tries this year we will likely be 4-12 if we give it a 100%. The best possible solution I see for this team is 6-10 which is still unlikely

[K-Dog]

yes

That makes my head hurt.

[Cillmatic]

Like I said(and everyone else on the forum) before the team won't willingly tank. The fans can only root for a loss. That's it. This is truly a redundant thread.

[Tru11]

i don't think you can yourself a fan if you are rooting for your team to loose lol.

 

well at least to my opinion.

[Cillmatic]

i don't think you can yourself a fan if you are rooting for your team to loose lol.

well at least to my opinion.

If it comes down to the last game of the season and the Ravens and Lions are both 1-14 I'm DEFINITELY rooting for a loss for us. Getting the #1 overall pick could instantly make us Super Bowl contenders. We could trade down and STILL get Treadwell as well as a teams next three first round picks and a second round pick. Edited October 13, 2015 by Cillmatic

[xxhighriser]

It would be smart, but it won't happen. Which means we probably will finish with 7 or 8 wins and still miss the playoffs. It sucks cus we never really go after big name free agents and I don't expect it to change.

[Tru11]

If it comes down to the last game of the season and the Ravens and Lions are both 1-14 I'm DEFINITELY rooting for a loss for us. Getting the #1 overall pick could instantly make us Super Bowl contenders. We could trade down and STILL get Treadwell as well as a teams next three first round picks and a second round pick.

 

meh to many ifs.

 

since we playing against the bengals  chances are you dont have to root for a loss lol

[Sami84]

was away on a trip.

 

Yes time to tank. I see 0 purpose on trying to reach 6 wins.

 

don't bother. Harbs knows this team is done. You could tell in the tone of his voice..hes been humbled.

 

ozzie needs to draft better. Joe needs to take a paycut and we need to stop killing our players in the off season and start firing certain coaches.

 

get the first pick of the draft...make it a player that has a legacy of a legend that a team can be built around on in an emotional and skill level.

Edited October 13, 2015 by Sami84

[K-Dog]

If it comes down to the last game of the season and the Ravens and Lions are both 1-14 I'm DEFINITELY rooting for a loss for us. Getting the #1 overall pick could instantly make us Super Bowl contenders. We could trade down and STILL get Treadwell as well as a teams next three first round picks and a second round pick.

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic, but we are way too far in the weeds for ONE pick to turn this thing around.  

[Cillmatic]

I am not sure if you are being sarcastic, but we are way too far in the weeds for ONE pick to turn this thing around.

Not saying that, think about it, the Redskins gave the Rams THREE first round picks and a third just to trade up about 6 spots. Give Ozzie an extra first round pick for 3 years and we'll be the best team in the league for a while.

[Guest]

They will botch the pick. A project lineman or a 40 time freak. Trade out stock pile WR's and DB's. This team is fragile yesterday looked like a mash unit..wth Ravens you are almost un-watchable

 

I actually agree with you.  I don't believe this Front Office trust themselves to make a sound pick.  They don't like the pressure to come up with a high selection.  That's why trading back for more picks has become an integral part of their modus operandi.  They figure, "More picks, even if we screw up we're likely to come up with something."................If we are "fortunate enough to come up with the #4 pick in the draft I'm literally scared to death of how they'll handle it.

[Guest]

This is a no brainer....For the same reason Today's NFL is a Parity, Salary Cap, Owner biased organization, where a good team cannot be kept together, you have to improve your team when the opportunity arrives............AND BOYS and GIRLS THATOPPORTUNITY IS POUNDING HARD AT OUR DOOR.

 

It's time to go out there and LOSE a BUCKETFUL of games..............Lose all the way to December.

Now, you don't go out and throw games............what you do is play the 2nds and 3rds to see who really deserves to be on your team next year.  That's all you have to do........... EVALUATE YOUR ROSTER THRU GAME PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

If you win, you win dagnabbit.............but if you lose, you grease the path to the FREAKIN GOLDEN GOOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Theres only one problem............you gotta rely upon your FRONT OFFICE.............to KNOW WHICH OF THE GEESE IS TOTALLY GOLDEN and NOT FOOLS FREAKIN GOLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

I'm down. I will suffer through this embarrassment of a season if the end result is a boatload of draft picks in the top 5 of every round.

 

 

 

The topic of "tanking" is going to be a prevailing sentiment among fans, but I couldn't disagree more and it is going to be a common theme in my posts from here on out. Tanking for a high draft pick is not a good approach. Teaching young players how to give up and lose cannot be a part of the lesson plan. 

 

You play to win the game ... period. Nothing less than 100% effort must be demanded next week or in week 17. Clean up this self-destructive, undisciplined play NOW. Sit anyone that isn't performing, no matter what their salary is and play guys that play like they want to win. 

 

If we do those things - and lose ... fine. Then we get the draft pick we get.

 

 

 

I'd like to avoid going 7-9 , miss the playoffs and miss a dynamic prospect.

If were gonna suck Let's only do it once.

[flynismo]

I actually agree with you.  I don't believe this Front Office trust themselves to make a sound pick.

 

[PurpleCity5]

We lack a bit of SIZZLE on this defense, it's going to DOOM us because of  the lack of a pass rush. 

Edited October 14, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[RaineV1]

No chance we intentionally lose... but rest assured with the level of coaching we have in Pees and Trestman it is guarantied we will get a top draft pick. No way Treadwell goes in the top 5 and I don't want to see another receiver drafted in the first round regardless. If Breshad doesn't pan out that proves our front office has no business drafting wr's in round 1. Stick to the Defense in round 1! Regardless of how hard our team tries this year we will likely be 4-12 if we give it a 100%. The best possible solution I see for this team is 6-10 which is still unlikely

The Ravens are 12th in total yards and 10th in points per game, and that's with the o-line playing badly and having a subpar group of receivers. Trestman is actually doing pretty good for what he's working with, unlike Pees.

[Purple Nurple]

Preposterous.

We'll do just fine losing in our own. I wouldn't want a man on my team that just threw in the towel.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Tanking is stupid. To those who actually suggest it: Where is your integrity? Do you have any self-respect or pride? Honestly.

Let's bench Flacco, and then fire Ozzie and Harbs, and then blow up the team and rebuild. Move the franchise to Jacksonville. 

 

 

Oh wait? It's best if you live your life giving 100% effort all the time? 

Okay. If we lose fair and square fine, life goes on. 

[#ibleedpurple]

im exited for the future we have young talented players at skill positions on offense and young talent on defense but this year sadly is done! do we tank? HELL NO! 1st round a corner 2 round wide out or pass rusher 3 round same thing 

[-Truth-]

It's threads like these that make me happy we found water on Mars so I can have realistic thoughts of not wanting to live on this planet anymore.

[polynesian15]

Tanking is stupid. To those who actually suggest it: Where is your integrity? Do you have any self-respect or pride? Honestly.

To be fair, football is entertainment - part of a capitalistic business if you will. It's not like they're saving lives, ending war or addressing world hunger out there on the field.

Let's keep it in perspective. 

The way they (defense especially) have been playing so far I'd say you can already bring buzz words such self respect, pride and integrity into question. They look flat and unmotivated out there, when they miss assignments etc. they don't cuss each other out - just hang their head and shrug their shoulders. More importantly it seems like there are never any defensive adjustments... Things look grim already, I (IMO) would like to at least get good draft position out of this abomination of a season thus far.

[Sami84]

i really think we have an insanely good shot on joey bosa.

 

he's what we need..a leader on D..pass rusher edge setter..screen breaker..hi IQ..insane motor.

 

Losing mcphee was a HUGE blow to this team. He's the best player no one ever talked about..an elite pass rusher.

 

We need to dedicate the entire draft to D.

 

get O in free agency/trades.

[stampedehero]

 

The topic of "tanking" is going to be a prevailing sentiment among fans, but I couldn't disagree more and it is going to be a common theme in my posts from here on out. Tanking for a high draft pick is not a good approach. Teaching young players how to give up and lose cannot be a part of the lesson plan. 

 

You play to win the game ... period. Nothing less than 100% effort must be demanded next week or in week 17. Clean up this self-destructive, undisciplined play NOW. Sit anyone that isn't performing, no matter what their salary is and play guys that play like they want to win. 

 

If we do those things - and lose ... fine. Then we get the draft pick we get.

 

I agree. Once forum posters  want draft picks at the 5th game then you can designate them "bandwagon" people.  This is why Miami fans care more about the draft than the game.   

Edited October 14, 2015 by stampedehero

[GrimCoconut]

i really think we have an insanely good shot on joey bosa.

he's what we need..a leader on D..pass rusher edge setter..screen breaker..hi IQ..insane motor.

Losing mcphee was a HUGE blow to this team. He's the best player no one ever talked about..an elite pass rusher.

We need to dedicate the entire draft to D.

get O in free agency/trades.

Weren't you one of the guys who said we didn't need to bring back McPhee? I recall gabefergy and I both saying we needed to keep him but weren't likely to bring him back, but I don't recall any positive comments from you on the need to retain him.

[Sami84]

Weren't you one of the guys who said we didn't need to bring back McPhee? I recall gabefergy and I both saying we needed to keep him but weren't likely to bring him back, but I don't recall any positive comments from you on the need to retain him.

 

no i said mcphee was the guy i wanted to keep out of all the guys that left.

[mc_red23]

You should never purposely tank at anything. It doesn't set a good example to the younger athletes/people and it does nothing for your own confidence either. It in turn means even worse performances from individuals and a lesser chance of a new contract with the current or other team in the future. Acquiring a higher draft pick is not a good enough excuse. I genuinely don't think I could put up with 11 more weeks of the performances we've put in so far, I'll lose any marbles I currently possess. 

Finishing 7-9 wouldn't be the end of the world although it will quite annoying as we'd miss the playoffs and end up with a reasonable but not great draft number. Should we have given up during Ray Lewis' final year when the odds were stacked against us week in week out? I didn't think I'd associate any Raven's fan with wanting to purposely tank. 

[GrimCoconut]

no i said mcphee was the guy i wanted to keep out of all the guys that left.

Maybe it was someone else. No offense, but there's been a bevy of negative people and you're certainly one of them. I probably unconsciously lumped them all together.