Cillmatic

2016 free agency

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We might as well put Brooks out there, need to see if he's anything good. If he sucks then we know what we need. Him and Kendrick should share time.

 

No doubt Lewis has been a spare. Brooks looked explosive last week in limited action

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We might as well put Brooks out there, need to see if he's anything good. If he sucks then we know what we need. Him and Kendrick should share time.

That's really how I feel. If we feel Brooks isn't the answer then we can really go after a Free Safety talent. If the team feels playoffs is out of reach then that's pretty much when Brooks will get the start. 

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That's really how I feel. If we feel Brooks isn't the answer then we can really go after a Free Safety talent. If the team feels playoffs is out of reach then that's pretty much when Brooks will get the start. 

I agree that we should give Brooks a good amount of playing time too, or even start him. The only thing you guys can't forget is that he is still trying to get back to 100% from his injury, which he isn't yet. Also, you can't automatically say he is terrible for making mistakes, he is a very young player and everyone makes mistakes (especially DB's)

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If we sign Jermaine Kearse and Marvin Jones we'll be PERFECTLY fine on offense as Long as one doesn't mess up. The draft needs to be all about defense. Ramsey, a comer and pass rusher.

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Honestly, an offseason with Trumaine Johnson and Marvin Jones there would be perfect. I think retaining Aiken as a number 3 is a good move. He's not a horrible #3 option. In fact he's pretty solid there.

I mean

Perriman(even if he's just a deep threat)

Jones

Aiken

Maxx

Gillmore

is not a horrible corps of WRs. You could do a lot worse.

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Honestly, an offseason with Trumaine Johnson and Marvin Jones there would be perfect. I think retaining Aiken as a number 3 is a good move. He's not a horrible #3 option. In fact he's pretty solid there.

I mean

Perriman(even if he's just a deep threat)

Jones

Aiken

Maxx

Gillmore

is not a horrible corps of WRs. You could do a lot worse.

I want Marvin Jones too. I'd love to have him here. I do think we could chase a guy like Vincent Jackson, but I personally would love to have Jones. I also think Aiken is solid. He's getting better and better. Def. keep him here.  

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Honestly, an offseason with Trumaine Johnson and Marvin Jones there would be perfect. I think retaining Aiken as a number 3 is a good move. He's not a horrible #3 option. In fact he's pretty solid there.

I mean

Perriman(even if he's just a deep threat)

Jones

Aiken

Maxx

Gillmore

is not a horrible corps of WRs. You could do a lot worse.

I'm not familiar with this Trumaine Johnson dude, can you tell me about him?
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Johnson plays great against smaller WRs and average against bigger ones but is more than competent as a #2

He plays the ball really well. I just hope Rams decide to pay Jenkins and not him. Then it's just a matter of convincing Ozzie to pay the guy more than anybody else will offer.

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He plays the ball really well. I just hope Rams decide to pay Jenkins and not him. Then it's just a matter of convincing Ozzie to pay the guy more than anybody else will offer.

If Johnson's as good as you guys say he is I'll take either.
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He plays the ball really well. I just hope Rams decide to pay Jenkins and not him. Then it's just a matter of convincing Ozzie to pay the guy more than anybody else will offer.

Likewise. I liked him when he was coming out. Have been on the Marvin Jones wagon since 2012 so I'd obviously like to see him on this team.

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Johnson plays great against smaller WRs and average against bigger ones but is more than competent as a #2

A secondary of:

CB#1: Jimmy

CB#2: Johnson

Slot CB: Webb/anyone else

FS: Ramsey

SS: Hill

Would be one of the best secondary's in the league.

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I like Trumaine Johnson, but I don't wanna see us compete for him. If the market is too high for us then I'd like to see us look at other option. I like Prince Amukamara but he has trouble with injuries. I can't trust that. I know a couple of Giants fans and I constantly see them vent their frustration. 

 

I'm still crossing my fingers for Tashaun Gipson, I know it's annoying hearing me vent about how badly we need a FS but damn it we need one badly. It's been a painful start for Gipson heading to his contract year so his value hasn't been as high as he has anticipated. I feel that if we sign another CB it will still be a problem for us when covering deep and we can't take full advantage of Will Hill's talent at the box. 

 

I like Jalen Ramsey but I don't want to be dependent on a player in the draft. If he's taken then we won't be able to solve our FS problems.

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I like Trumaine Johnson, but I don't wanna see us compete for him. If the market is too high for us then I'd like to see us look at other option. I like Prince Amukamara but he has trouble with injuries. I can't trust that. I know a couple of Giants fans and I constantly see them vent their frustration. 

 

I'm still crossing my fingers for Tashaun Gipson, I know it's annoying hearing me vent about how badly we need a FS but damn it we need one badly. It's been a painful start for Gipson heading to his contract year so his value hasn't been as high as he has anticipated. I feel that if we sign another CB it will still be a problem for us when covering deep and we can't take full advantage of Will Hill's talent at the box. 

 

I like Jalen Ramsey but I don't want to be dependent on a player in the draft. If he's taken then we won't be able to solve our FS problems.

Haven't seen much of gibson but i hear hes good.If we were gonna throw money at someone I would love it to be Eric Weddle.Not sure how the talks are now but a couple months ago him and the chargers were in disputes over an extension and even trade suggestions were thrown around.Not sayin he'd be cheap but he would be the veteran fs we would need.Not too old and we would know exactly what we're getting.Also if we do get a top 10 pick if we could snatch up a top corner like hargreaves that would be great.

Cb1-Smith

Cb2-Hargreaves

SS-Hill

FS-Weddle.

Now we'd be in business.

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If we sign Jermaine Kearse and Marvin Jones we'll be PERFECTLY fine on offense as Long as one doesn't mess up. The draft needs to be all about defense. Ramsey, a comer and pass rusher.

Not trying to sound mean,but with smith retiring and perriman being an unknown at this point,and our lackluster receivers,Jones and Kearse aren't really a that big of a threat in any receiving core.We can't keep neglecting wr like that.

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Not trying to sound mean,but with smith retiring and perriman being an unknown at this point,and our lackluster receivers,Jones and Kearse aren't really a that big of a threat in any receiving core.We can't keep neglecting wr like that.

Marvin Jones is a very high end #2. He'd be good here. I think Perriman can be a number one. His ceiling is massive and his floor isn't very low.
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Haven't seen much of gibson but i hear hes good.If we were gonna throw money at someone I would love it to be Eric Weddle.Not sure how the talks are now but a couple months ago him and the chargers were in disputes over an extension and even trade suggestions were thrown around.Not sayin he'd be cheap but he would be the veteran fs we would need.Not too old and we would know exactly what we're getting.Also if we do get a top 10 pick if we could snatch up a top corner like hargreaves that would be great.

Cb1-Smith

Cb2-Hargreaves

SS-Hill

FS-Weddle.

Now we'd be in business.

I'm totally with you on that, I think Gipson might make more sense since he'll be the cheaper option by a small margin. He's definitely a great Free Safety and I think that his down season so far is hugely attributed to injury, I even think a lot of teams will bypass that, he's that good. Him and Will Hill would be an insane pairing. 

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Not trying to sound mean,but with smith retiring and perriman being an unknown at this point,and our lackluster receivers,Jones and Kearse aren't really a that big of a threat in any receiving core.We can't keep neglecting wr like that.

I'm with Lost, Marvin Jones is a nice #2. He's just good at what he does quiet honestly. I would really love him here. Depends on how willing the Bengals are at letting him go and how willing we are to offer Jones the contract he desires. I don't anticipate him touching 1,000--but that's due to that amount of weapons out there.

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I do think Marvin Jones would be the best FA option unless someone unexpected gets cut due to cap reasons. And I would think Jones would want to go to a team where he has a shot of becoming the number one guy.

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I'm with Lost, Marvin Jones is a nice #2. He's just good at what he does quiet honestly. I would really love him here. Depends on how willing the Bengals are at letting him go and how willing we are to offer Jones the contract he desires. I don't anticipate him touching 1,000--but that's due to that amount of weapons out there.

Bengals are gonna have 31 million in cap space so we're gonna have to out bid.
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Bengals are gonna have 31 million in cap space so we're gonna have to out bid.

thats insane considering they already have one of the best rosters in the league. 

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The ravens biggest problem is they have no dynamic edge rushers. Dumervil seems to have lost a step and will be 33-34 next year. Pees gets a lot of heat but you can not play aggressive when you know your rushers won't get to the QB. Again nobody wants to blame Ozzie for failing to draft a dynamic sackmaster in over a decade!! Point out pees failures but make excuses after excuses for ozzie!! Then fire the coordinator for the players being so terrible!!

With that being said the free agent that should be #1 on the ravens shopping list is BRUCE IRVIN!! He will be not only a 15-20 sack producer but a BARGAIN!! Irvin is 6'3 258 lbs and can play traditional LB Duties like man,zone cover,read react. However he is at his best when RUSHING TBE QB!! He is as explosive an edge rushers as there is Is in the NFL. He has built power and an array of moves to mix with his AWESOME get off burst. HOWEVER he is a BARGAIN because he has not collected 16 sacks yet because he is being played as a traditional 4-3 OLB where he does not rush the QB very often. However his best position is no doubt a 3-4 edge rush olb where he could easily collect 12-16 sacks. He is as explosive as Khalil Mack. The ravens stout lineman would free him up to use his speed. I do not know why the seahawks did not blitz him more often in the Superbowl. Or line him up at DE. When he blitzed Vollmer could not handle him!! If Irvin played on a 3-4 team he could challenge for the NFL sack lead. He is more explosive and bigger than vic Beasley and Khalil Mack!! A smart gm will realize this dude needs to be charging after QBs far more often. And best of all he has not played 3-4 olb yet and collected 16 sacks. If he did he would cost over $10mil per year!! But because he is yet to play rush olb he could be signed for about 4 years $30mil. He is the type of player good gms pay for because his best production will be as a raven. Remember Boulware played traditional 4-3 LB and never had more than 7 sacks but collected 16 when he played Defensive End?? Irvin will be a fierce weapon on the ravens Defense!! A rush olb that can cover and read react when the coordinator wants to mix things up and confuse opposing offenses!! He should be the #1 offseason priority. The defensive backfield will look much better once they hurry QBs. He is what the defense needs to set the tone. Irvin,Mosley,Davis,Williams and Jernigan and another LB early in the draft( either mlb or another rush olb) and the front 7 could be dominant again. I like Sean Spence in free agency as well.

As for WRs Brian Quick was coming on before injury.

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The ravens biggest problem is they have no dynamic edge rushers. Dumervil seems to have lost a step and will be 33-34 next year. Pees gets a lot of heat but you can not play aggressive when you know your rushers won't get to the QB. Again nobody wants to blame Ozzie for failing to draft a dynamic sackmaster in over a decade!! Point out pees failures but make excuses after excuses for ozzie!! Then fire the coordinator for the players being so terrible!!

With that being said the free agent that should be #1 on the ravens shopping list is BRUCE IRVIN!! He will be not only a 15-20 sack producer but a BARGAIN!! Irvin is 6'3 258 lbs and can play traditional LB Duties like man,zone cover,read react. However he is at his best when RUSHING TBE QB!! He is as explosive an edge rushers as there is Is in the NFL. He has built power and an array of moves to mix with his AWESOME get off burst. HOWEVER he is a BARGAIN because he has not collected 16 sacks yet because he is being played as a traditional 4-3 OLB where he does not rush the QB very often. However his best position is no doubt a 3-4 edge rush olb where he could easily collect 12-16 sacks. He is as explosive as Khalil Mack. The ravens stout lineman would free him up to use his speed. I do not know why the seahawks did not blitz him more often in the Superbowl. Or line him up at DE. When he blitzed Vollmer could not handle him!! If Irvin played on a 3-4 team he could challenge for the NFL sack lead. He is more explosive and bigger than vic Beasley and Khalil Mack!! A smart gm will realize this dude needs to be charging after QBs far more often. And best of all he has not played 3-4 olb yet and collected 16 sacks. If he did he would cost over $10mil per year!! But because he is yet to play rush olb he could be signed for about 4 years $30mil. He is the type of player good gms pay for because his best production will be as a raven. Remember Boulware played traditional 4-3 LB and never had more than 7 sacks but collected 16 when he played Defensive End?? Irvin will be a fierce weapon on the ravens Defense!! A rush olb that can cover and read react when the coordinator wants to mix things up and confuse opposing offenses!! He should be the #1 offseason priority. The defensive backfield will look much better once they hurry QBs. He is what the defense needs to set the tone. Irvin,Mosley,Davis,Williams and Jernigan and another LB early in the draft( either mlb or another rush olb) and the front 7 could be dominant again. I like Sean Spence in free agency as well.

As for WRs Brian Quick was coming on before injury.

at least find the tab key....please. im sincerly asking. 

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Wishing it were the 2016 season and we were heading into the 2017. Lol Myles Garrett would look great in a Ravens uniform. This upcoming draft is probably barely better than the 2013 draft. Not too many star players

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at least find the tab key....please. im sincerly asking. 

Judging by his perception of talent, you're better off ignoring and not reading all together.

 

Apparently he literally thinks Bruce Irvin is Von Miller 2.0...

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The ravens biggest problem is they have no dynamic edge rushers. Dumervil seems to have lost a step and will be 33-34 next year. Pees gets a lot of heat but you can not play aggressive when you know your rushers won't get to the QB. Again nobody wants to blame Ozzie for failing to draft a dynamic sackmaster in over a decade!! Point out pees failures but make excuses after excuses for ozzie!! Then fire the coordinator for the players being so terrible!!

With that being said the free agent that should be #1 on the ravens shopping list is BRUCE IRVIN!! He will be not only a 15-20 sack producer but a BARGAIN!! Irvin is 6'3 258 lbs and can play traditional LB Duties like man,zone cover,read react. However he is at his best when RUSHING TBE QB!! He is as explosive an edge rushers as there is Is in the NFL. He has built power and an array of moves to mix with his AWESOME get off burst. HOWEVER he is a BARGAIN because he has not collected 16 sacks yet because he is being played as a traditional 4-3 OLB where he does not rush the QB very often. However his best position is no doubt a 3-4 edge rush olb where he could easily collect 12-16 sacks. He is as explosive as Khalil Mack. The ravens stout lineman would free him up to use his speed. I do not know why the seahawks did not blitz him more often in the Superbowl. Or line him up at DE. When he blitzed Vollmer could not handle him!! If Irvin played on a 3-4 team he could challenge for the NFL sack lead. He is more explosive and bigger than vic Beasley and Khalil Mack!! A smart gm will realize this dude needs to be charging after QBs far more often. And best of all he has not played 3-4 olb yet and collected 16 sacks. If he did he would cost over $10mil per year!! But because he is yet to play rush olb he could be signed for about 4 years $30mil. He is the type of player good gms pay for because his best production will be as a raven. Remember Boulware played traditional 4-3 LB and never had more than 7 sacks but collected 16 when he played Defensive End?? Irvin will be a fierce weapon on the ravens Defense!! A rush olb that can cover and read react when the coordinator wants to mix things up and confuse opposing offenses!! He should be the #1 offseason priority. The defensive backfield will look much better once they hurry QBs. He is what the defense needs to set the tone. Irvin,Mosley,Davis,Williams and Jernigan and another LB early in the draft( either mlb or another rush olb) and the front 7 could be dominant again. I like Sean Spence in free agency as well.

As for WRs Brian Quick was coming on before injury.

You're about as delusional as they get. Irvin isn't very good. He gets plenty of opportunities to rush the passer but just hasn't produced. You should see how creative the Seahawks get with there passing downs using Bennet, Avril, Clark, and Irvin without any d tackles and Irvin's usually the one that can't seem to get any pressure.
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