2016 free agency

[Drew P]

You mean the same Forsett who is utterly dependent on the Oline in order to play well?

 

Yes, that Forsett.

 

Ok sure cut him

 

Could've sworn that's what we were already doing.

And I thought all running backs relied on their o-line. Now ppl want to cut forsett bc he played poorly in 2 games where he had no lanes whatsoever. And you talk about knee jerk reactions.

 

No doubt, a waiver wire pickup they got on the cheap. The opposition is keying the RB each and every play and he's getting it done.

[cushrinada1986]

Yanda is at the top of the list. Truly one of the Ravens greats and never seems to let us down, I love him. Keep him at all costs, honestly he's KO'd K.O for Free Agency. K.O has been good the past couple of games, he looks like the old K.O but I'm certain we'll lose him. I'd like to see us keep Tucker.

 

I wouldn't even bother much with Upshaw, he can't rush the passer and he's been inconsistent as an edge settler, if we can keep him for dirt cheap then fine. 

 

As far as Marlon Brown goes, I really think we should let it go. I don't think he'll be the player we thought he would be. I had high hopes but it just isn't working. 

 

I'd like to see us get a new Center, Urschel will be taking over for K.O but we need a new Center IMO, Zuttah just doesn't have enough power honestly. 

Wonder what is available next year in the draft.

 

[ravens rule]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but how about Josh Gordon ? He will be dirt cheap.

[PurpleCity5]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but how about Josh Gordon ? He will be dirt cheap.

I'm very open to that but Cleveland hasn't cut him now, so why do it in the offseason? 

[allblackraven]

I'm very open to that but Cleveland hasn't cut him now, so why do it in the offseason? 

He is free agent after this season

[PurpleCity5]

My hope for signing Eric Weddle still hasn't changed, whatever we do, I feel that we have to sign a rangy FS who can play some coverage. I feel that we're asking Will Hill to do too much at times. He's basically playing SS and FS due to Lewis lack of coverage capabilities as isn't playing as a true SS, a guy who can play coverage and has range would be perfect for this team. 

[PurpleCity5]

He is free agent after this season

Oh yeah, he was apart of the 2012 Draft class, I don't know if he'll be let go that easily by Cleveland. Would love to have him though, no doubt. He shouldn't cost much and it'll likely be a 1YR deal anyways. 

[allblackraven]

Oh yeah, he was apart of the 2012 Draft class, I don't know if he'll be let go that easily by Cleveland. Would love to have him though, no doubt. He shouldn't cost much and it'll likely be a 1YR deal anyways. 

He has obvious off the field flags all over him so even 1 year contract would be a risk, unless we get another solid WR. Good player though.

 

I would like for Ozzie to try to bring Trumaine Johnson in. He is balling and would be good opposite Jimmy Smith. My hope is that Rams keep and pay Jenkins and let Johnson test the market. Doubt they'd want to pay both.

 

Last but not the least - Johnson is my corner from this year's Draft a Franchise game.

[PurpleCity5]

He has obvious off the field flags all over him so even 1 year contract would be a risk, unless we get another solid WR. Good player though.

 

I would like for Ozzie to try to bring Trumaine Johnson in. He is balling and would be good opposite Jimmy Smith. My hope is that Rams keep and pay Jenkins and let Johnson test the market. Doubt they'd want to pay both.

 

Last but not the least - Johnson is my corner from this year's Draft a Franchise game.

I wouldn't expect the 1YR contract to have much guarantees, I expect a contract similar to Greg Hardy but even cheaper. As far as Trumaine Johnson goes, you and I have the same Idea there. I've brought him up as an option for us and I really like him, to be honest after more thinking I don't know If I would do it. I honestly think our biggest need is at FS, boy do we need one badly! We need one really really badly and I'd heavily prefer to sign one. 

Edited October 13, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[52520Andrew]

Last but not the least - Johnson is my corner from this year's Draft a Franchise game.

Forum mock for me

[allblackraven]

I wouldn't expect the 1YR contract to have much guarantees, I expect a contract similar to Greg Hardy but even cheaper.

 

I didn't mean risk in dollar terms, more of danger to again have thin WR depth.

 

As far as Trumaine Johnson goes, you and I have the same Idea there. I've brought him up as an option for us and I really like him, to be honest after more thinking I don't know If I would do it. I honestly think our biggest need is at FS, boy do we need one badly! We need one really really badly and I'd heavily prefer to sign one. 

 

Supply and demand - not a lot of good FS available and they will command high price. I'm still waiting for Brooks to get a real opportunity to show what he can do whit some continuity. Lewis disappointed, would be nice to pair up Brooks and Hill for next few games, let them play and see what happens.

[allblackraven]

Forum mock for me

 

What can I say - you know your CBs.

[BmoreBird22]

every RB in the NFL utterly depends on their Oline.

You seen Todd Gurley these past two weeks? Special talent, much like Peterson. Although, I will say that the chances the Ravens land a special running back like that (none this year) are nearly nonexistent.

[PurpleCity5]

I didn't mean risk in dollar terms, more of danger to again have thin WR depth.

 

 

Supply and demand - not a lot of good FS available and they will command high price. I'm still waiting for Brooks to get a real opportunity to show what he can do whit some continuity. Lewis disappointed, would be nice to pair up Brooks and Hill for next few games, let them play and see what happens.

I'm with you on just starting Brooks from here on out and seeing how he does. He hasn't been great, but neither has Lewis, in fact I don't even know if Lewis is better than Brooks in coverage as now. 

 

As far as your point goes with supply and demand, I can honestly say the same thing about CBs, I mean we all saw last season how they got paid and plenty of them have under-preformed so far, we're already paying CBs a lot as it is. Trumaine Johnson will get paid and if we give him the money he'll demand then that's over $100M dedicated to just the CB group alone.

 

I feel that we need to invest more into FS. Also, there are plenty of Free agent FS out there who could be effective here like Eric Weddle, Tashaun Gipson, Eric Berry, Walter Thurmond, Reggie Nelson. If we have to pay those guys multimillion dollar contracts and what not then so be it, we need to fix the problem we have at FS that's plagued us since Ed left. 

[52520Andrew]

What can I say - you know your CBs.

Well I just picked the right team lol although I did get offers on him as certain people would tell you

[Cillmatic]

He is free agent after this season

Are you sure? He missed two accured seasons.

[FlackAttack]

You seen Todd Gurley these past two weeks? Special talent, much like Peterson. Although, I will say that the chances the Ravens land a special running back like that (none this year) are nearly nonexistent.

 

love gurley. would be great to have someone of that magnitude running the rock out of our back field. ive been waiting for an athletic, big and dominant physical back to join this team since jamal left. the value of good RB's in the NFL is becoming extremely underrated. gurley will be something special if he stays healthy.

 

i'll admit, this past offseason i said we should trade up in the draft and snatch melvin gordon. kinda glad we didnt.

Edited October 14, 2015 by FlackAttack

[usmccharles]

love gurley. would be great to have someone of that magnitude running the rock out of our back field. ive been waiting for an athletic, big and dominant physical back to join this team since jamal left. the value of good RB's in the NFL is becoming extremely underrated. gurley will be something special if he stays healthy.

 

i'll admit, this past offseason i said we should trade up in the draft and snatch melvin gordon. kinda glad we didnt.

I completely agree with this.  This was brought up in the Ozzie thread about bad contracts, i still believe the Rice contract was a good contract.  At the time we gave it to him he was a top RB the league no question, especially considering he was one of the best pass catching rbs in the league, 4th and 29?  He was a dynamnic playmaker, guys like that you pay, regaurdless of the position.  Its not like we had the problem of deciding between a Dez Bryant talen and him. 

 

I too saw a lock of mock drafts with Gordon coming to us, he didnt jump off the page to me as anyone dynamic.  I wonder if Gurley would of fell to the 15-20 range if we would of made a move for him. 

[nyc9192]

My hope for signing Eric Weddle still hasn't changed, whatever we do, I feel that we have to sign a rangy FS who can play some coverage. I feel that we're asking Will Hill to do too much at times. He's basically playing SS and FS due to Lewis lack of coverage capabilities as isn't playing as a true SS, a guy who can play coverage and has range would be perfect for this team. 

I was just thinking that myself friend.If we get a top pick and get a corner like vernon hargreaves and get and eric weddle,our secondary would change over night.

[FlackAttack]

I completely agree with this.  This was brought up in the Ozzie thread about bad contracts, i still believe the Rice contract was a good contract.  At the time we gave it to him he was a top RB the league no question, especially considering he was one of the best pass catching rbs in the league, 4th and 29?  He was a dynamnic playmaker, guys like that you pay, regaurdless of the position.  Its not like we had the problem of deciding between a Dez Bryant talen and him. 

 

I too saw a lock of mock drafts with Gordon coming to us, he didnt jump off the page to me as anyone dynamic.  I wonder if Gurley would of fell to the 15-20 range if we would of made a move for him. 

 

yup. people quickly forget that rice was the best player on our offense, and arguably top 5 playmakers in the league from '09- '12.

 

it is also arguable that the 4th and 29 play against SD was possibly the most important play during our super bowl season, right up there with the mile high miracle bomb to jacoby.

[polynesian15]

My hope for signing Eric Weddle still hasn't changed, whatever we do, I feel that we have to sign a rangy FS who can play some coverage. I feel that we're asking Will Hill to do too much at times. He's basically playing SS and FS due to Lewis lack of coverage capabilities as isn't playing as a true SS, a guy who can play coverage and has range would be perfect for this team. 

Sort of like how Elam has been mis-utilized for most of his time here. It seems Harbs/the FO isn't willing to admit the need for a coaching change, hopefully this is because the season is all but over at this point.

If they finish with 4-5 wins and the defense keeps playing soft/giving up leads, I sincerely hope Pees and secondary coaches are let go.

[Ravens2343]

My hope for signing Eric Weddle still hasn't changed, whatever we do, I feel that we have to sign a rangy FS who can play some coverage. I feel that we're asking Will Hill to do too much at times. He's basically playing SS and FS due to Lewis lack of coverage capabilities as isn't playing as a true SS, a guy who can play coverage and has range would be perfect for this team. 

 

Id love Eric Weddle, but he will be 31 years old by the start of next season and will command a big contract.  Typically those are not the guys we go out and spend big on.  Terrence Brooks should get more time as the season goes on, so hopefully he turns into our starting FS.  We could target a corner in free agency though, maybe someone like Janoris Jenkins or Casey Hayward instead.  Then spend our first round pick on a pass rusher, wide receiver or maybe even cornerback

[PurpleCity5]

I was just thinking that myself friend.If we get a top pick and get a corner like vernon hargreaves and get and eric weddle,our secondary would change over night.

Sheesh. Our secondary would be legit with those two. 

[PurpleCity5]

Sort of like how Elam has been mis-utilized for most of his time here. It seems Harbs/the FO isn't willing to admit the need for a coaching change, hopefully this is because the season is all but over at this point.

If they finish with 4-5 wins and the defense keeps playing soft/giving up leads, I sincerely hope Pees and secondary coaches are let go.

I do think Pees does thing repeditly that are frustrating and don't work, but I won't give him the majority of the blame. I'd give it to the Front Office/Harbaugh/Positional Coaches/Players, and of course Pees himself. I think Pees should be gone simply because he's lost his players. They don't have confidence in him nor do they communicate well and IMO that falls on Pees. Pees does do things that make me shake my head at times but there are times where he calls a brilliant game. Fear not, I don't see him staying after this season, especially if this keeps up on defense. I see the secondary coaches following suit. 

 

Back to Hill, I really feel that way. He's so good as a traditional in the box safety where he can cover the middle of the field, take care of the TEs, and play in the box, like a natural SS. Due to Lewis lack of coverage abilities, it forces Hill to practically play Free Safety, and Strong safety. It's too much to ask for one man to do which is why I think we NEED a traditional coverage Free Safety and I believe we'll have to sign one. Kendrick Lewis is inconsistent as inconsistent gets, he'll make a good play at one moment, then completely whiff on a big play the next. 

Edited October 14, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Cillmatic]

We might as well put Brooks out there, need to see if he's anything good. If he sucks then we know what we need. Him and Kendrick should share time.

[gtalk12]

Gurley has taken over STL, any chance we make a move for Tre Mason?

[PurpleCity5]

Id love Eric Weddle, but he will be 31 years old by the start of next season and will command a big contract.  Typically those are not the guys we go out and spend big on.  Terrence Brooks should get more time as the season goes on, so hopefully he turns into our starting FS.  We could target a corner in free agency though, maybe someone like Janoris Jenkins or Casey Hayward instead.  Then spend our first round pick on a pass rusher, wide receiver or maybe even cornerback

31, but I don't think that'll hamper him from being great. I think he'll be great for us at 32, 33, 34 and so on. It's a 4 Year Deal likely so I don't mind. As far as the Big contract goes, well you pay CBs big money as well and frankly it'll shore up a spot where we've had trouble with since Ed has left. I do think we should give Brooks snaps, heck due to Kendrick Lewis poor play  I think we should even start Brooks, especially since we're 1-4. 

 

As far as signing a CB goes, I don't see it as a big of a need as Free Safety, I think we need a safety BADLY, plus I wouldn't put too much stock into Brooks, he didn't look good in his limited time but I still would start him from here on out since we're in a deep hole. 

Edited October 14, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[Ravens2343]

31, but I don't think that'll hamper him from being great. I think he'll be great for us at 32, 33, 34 and so on. It's a 4 Year Deal likely so I don't mind. As far as the Big contract goes, well you pay CBs big money as well and frankly it'll shore up a spot where we've had trouble with since Ed has left. I do think we should give Brooks snaps, heck due to Kendrick Lewis poor play  I think we should even start Brooks, especially since we're 1-4. 

 

As far as signing a CB goes, I don't see it as a big of a need as Free Safety, I think we need a safety BADLY, plus I wouldn't put too much stock into Brooks, he didn't look good in his limited time but I still would start him from here on out since we're in a deep hole. 

 

I guess it will all depend who becomes available and what type of money they are commanding.  Obviously a big factor is also where we wind up picking in the draft.  Personally I would rather sign a younger corner like Jenkins or Hayward in free agency and go and try and get Jalen Ramsey in the first round to be our FS.  Its way to early to tell, but I really hope we are more aggressive in free agency and if we land Eric Weddle then Ill be excited nonetheless

[PurpleCity5]

I guess it will all depend who becomes available and what type of money they are commanding.  Obviously a big factor is also where we wind up picking in the draft.  Personally I would rather sign a younger corner like Jenkins or Hayward in free agency and go and try and get Jalen Ramsey in the first round to be our FS.  Its way to early to tell, but I really hope we are more aggressive in free agency and if we land Eric Weddle then Ill be excited nonetheless

It's dangerous to conduct your whole off-season depending on one player from the Draft who may or may not be there. When March comes around who knows where Ramsey will be on teams draft boards. I don't like the idea of betting on one person being there in the draft. 

[Ravens2343]

It's dangerous to conduct your whole off-season depending on one player from the Draft who may or may not be there. When March comes around who knows where Ramsey will be on teams draft boards. I don't like the idea of betting on one person being there in the draft. 

 

Sorry I did not intend for it to sound like that.  I was trying to say I would like it more if they went and got a good young corner in free agency and addressed the free safety position in the draft, using Ramsey as the choice because he is most likely a top 15 pick.  I agree we should not build our offseason that way, it will be interesting to see which direction we go in Free Agency because we should have some flexibility.  If we end up getting Weddle and Hargreaves in the draft, well then Id be pretty excited and thrilled about that just as much as I would be signing Hayward or Jenkins and getting Ramsey in the draft