2016 free agency

[52520Andrew]

Probably Never

I think he will be one at some point but not for a long time

[rmcjacket23]

I think he will be one at some point but not for a long time

Well, sometime in 2016/2017 he will sign a lucrative long-term extension with the Texans. Depending on how that contract goes, he probably resigns for another decent chunk of change.

 

Realistically, I'd say maybe around 2022-2024 time frame he may become available.

[52520Andrew]

Well, sometime in 2016/2017 he will sign a lucrative long-term extension with the Texans. Depending on how that contract goes, he probably resigns for another decent chunk of change.

Realistically, I'd say maybe around 2022-2024 time frame he may become available.

Yeah sounds about right, probably will cut him at some point when the backloaded money adds up

[Cillmatic]

Figured it was time to revive this.

[Moderator 3]

Figured I should copy this over here since it has a link to all of the key off-season dates.

March 15 -- Before 4 p.m., clubs must submit qualifying offers to their restricted free agents with expiring contracts and to whom they desire to retain a right of first refusal/compensation.

Important off-season dates here http://www.pressboxonline.com/2016/01/05/ravens-nfl-2016-offseason-guide

[Sherly_Tebow]

Without putting in much thought, here's a list of pending WR and S/CB Free Agents... It's not all of them, and I know a lot of players may get resigned or whatever. It's a long list. Any we may get?

WR : Brandon Tate, Andre Caldwell, Alshon Jeffery, Lance Moore, James Jones, Nate Washington, Jason Avant, Rishard Matthews, Hakeem Knicks, Rueben Randle, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Anquan Boldin, Jermaine Kearse, Ricardo Lockette, Malcolm Floyd.

CB/S : Cortland Finnegan, Tracy Porter, Leon Hall, Josh Wilson, Charles James, Sean Smith, Terrence Newman, Prince Amukamura, EJ Biggers, Antwan Blake, Brandon Boykin, Eric Weddle, Sterling Moore, Coty Sensabaugh, Will Blackmon, Chris Conte, Walter Thurmond, Brandon Meriweather, Antonio Allen, Reggie Nelson, Roman Harper, Charles Godfrey, Rashard Johnson.

I know many of these are doubtful, I'm just throwing a lot of names out there.

Edited January 22, 2016 by Sherly_Tebow

[Cillmatic]

Mildly unrelated; 49ers are trying to poach our LB coach Ted.

[Deflated Football]

Can we afford Marvin Jones?

[jazz1988]

Can we afford Marvin Jones?

 

Probably could. i'm not really a fan  though.

Edited January 22, 2016 by jazz1988

[Dre-Dog-31]

What about Josh Robinson he can play in the slot and he was with Leslie Frazier in Minnesota

[PurpleCity5]

Without putting in much thought, here's a list of pending WR and S/CB Free Agents... It's not all of them, and I know a lot of players may get resigned or whatever. It's a long list. Any we may get?

WR : Brandon Tate, Andre Caldwell, Alshon Jeffery, Lance Moore, James Jones, Nate Washington, Jason Avant, Rishard Matthews, Hakeem Knicks, Rueben Randle, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Anquan Boldin, Jermaine Kearse, Ricardo Lockette, Malcolm Floyd.

CB/S : Cortland Finnegan, Tracy Porter, Leon Hall, Josh Wilson, Charles James, Sean Smith, Terrence Newman, Prince Amukamura, EJ Biggers, Antwan Blake, Brandon Boykin, Eric Weddle, Sterling Moore, Coty Sensabaugh, Will Blackmon, Chris Conte, Walter Thurmond, Brandon Meriweather, Antonio Allen, Reggie Nelson, Roman Harper, Charles Godfrey, Rashard Johnson.

I know many of these are doubtful, I'm just throwing a lot of names out there.

WR: I'm not a fan of paying a WR who wouldn't push Aiken for paying time or has the ceiling of a No.3 WR which is why I would eliminate, Tate, Caldwell, Moore, Avant, Nicks, Bay, Lockette and Floyd.

Washington and Boldin are in the wrong side of 30, not sure If I would go after them.

I think we could go after A.Jeffery, J.Jones, R.Matthews, R.Randle and J.Kearse. I like Jeffery a lot but lets be honest here, it aint happening. J.Jones could push for PT, I think we could be interested, and Kearse while a hard-worker and impact player, is just not worth the pay-day. Randle on the other hand would be a very interesting option. If his knee injuries are behind him, he has the ceiling of a #2 WR, though I don't know if he'll touch that. When healthy in 2014 he had three 100 yard performances, if his knee is no longer a problem, then I think his best football is ahead of him, especially for a young player who is turning 25. He does things that a QB absolutely hates which includes dropping passes and cuts on routes but he would make a push at the No.2 job.

CB/S: Wouldn't bother with: W.Blackmon, C. Finnegan, J. Wilson, C.Conte, or B.Maryweather, they're just not difference makers.

Not fond of getting Prince Amukamara at all, we've seen enough of CB who cannot stay on the field, I think he's a good CB, but what can you do if you can't stay on the field? Tracy Porter, Leon Hall and Sean Smith would be options for us, would provide depth but Sean Smith is a guy I think would be an absolute starter here but too much money so we're left with Hall and Porter.

Walter Thurmond, Reggie Nelson, and Eric Weddle would do so much for this defense, but I don't see them as options, too much money.

Edited January 23, 2016 by PurpleCity5

[Winchester]

I do not like to many players in free agency this year. Most are old,to expensive or just terrible. Randle is mediocre Weddle is aging Nelson is expensive. Sean Smith will cost $10mil a year or more. Matthews is interesting. He produced with a mediocre QB. But he has talented receivers around him. James Jones is older as well and struggled to separate. Hall is a player that although aging looks really good. I would prefer him at free safety over Webb. Jeremy Lane is a nice option if he is not to expensive. At cornerback I would look for a young player that could breakout but has been held back by bad coaching,scheme,motivation/work ethic in a losing environment.

I like Zach Brown and Mike Neal as options. Neal in my opinion is most effective at about 285lbs as an explosive strong 3-4 defensive end. At 285 he has the frame and power of a 310 lb player but is lean as a lb. He moves like a LB as well but with a defensive tackles frame and strength. He and Jernigan could be a 10 sack bookenders. Both strong against the run and explosive like rush linebackers. Jernigan and Neal could put some real heat on QBs. Neal could be a beast in ravens system in my opinion. Zadarius should lean out to about 265 and add some muscle to his legs to add some speed for chasing and covering go be a complete rush olb. Double digit sacks and 4.65-4.70 speed and range. The rush would look decent next year before even drafting anybody. As for receivers there are no surefire #1 or #2 receivers that are affordable. Drafting or trading is the best option.

[Tru11]

some of yall think we got unlimited cap space lel

[Steve0x]

I say lets deal with the draft and see who we get. Then if the Ravens front office doesn't like what they see then go get free agents

[B-more Ravor]

1 hour ago, Steve0x said:

I say lets deal with the draft and see who we get. Then if the Ravens front office doesn't like what they see then go get free agents

That's fine if you only expect to sign (very) low level FAs, but by May (after the draft), even the "stealth" FAs are going.

That's not to say they will - or have ever - gone for the top FAs, but you cannot wait until after the draft to fill holes, because very little is left.

What the Ravens have always done - or, at least, tried to do - is sign enough FAs, even lower level ones, before the draft to go into the draft with at least a "viable" starter (or a decent competition) at every position, so as not to have to be compelled to draft for need. 

I doubt they do any different this time around, but they most certainly won't wait until after the draft to determine their needs.

 

Edited February 19, 2016 by B-more Ravor

[allblackraven]

2 hours ago, Steve0x said:

I say lets deal with the draft and see who we get. Then if the Ravens front office doesn't like what they see then go get free agents

You mean to pick from huge number of quality free agents at that point?

[RavensFanMania]

The Rams cut Laurinaitis and Long today.  Kind of saw it coming but both offer great veteran leadership.  Laurinaitis at this point probably has more to offer the team that eventually signs him. 

[Cillmatic]

Trumaine Williams is the only non-Raven FA we need to pursue.

[GrimCoconut]

9 minutes ago, Cillmatic said:

Trumaine Williams is the only non-Raven FA we need to pursue.

Johnson?

[JoeyFlex5]

Give Chris long a spin? Would certainly play out better than babin lol. 

 

Really though I know he had a few good seasons but has been inconsistent and injured(or is that Jake long?) but what would he command on the market? I think if we draft a guy looked Jack or bosa then long would be an incredible addition to make the 43 front much more effective

[Steve0x]

Hey you never know who you just got. Example look at 6th round pick Antonio Brown and 5th round pick Richard Sherman. It shows you you just don't know who you got. Hell if they select a 3rd round WR Braxton Miller. And if he turns out he's an another Antonio Brown.Then that means Ravens will have a very dangerous passing unit.

[polynesian15]

15 hours ago, Steve0x said:

Hey you never know who you just got. Example look at 6th round pick Antonio Brown and 5th round pick Richard Sherman. It shows you you just don't know who you got. Hell if they select a 3rd round WR Braxton Miller. And if he turns out he's an another Antonio Brown.Then that means Ravens will have a very dangerous passing unit.

But that's a lot of if's - the Ravens HAVE to rebound after this abysmal season, they can't rely on maybe's and if's.

[arnie_uk]

On 20/02/2016 at 1:55 AM, GrimCoconut said:

Johnson?

Break the bank. Totally gutted we didn't draft him. Every year you fall in love with someone, he was mine.

I actually think I had the rams and drafted him in our game.

[edthehead]

at one point we drafted exceptionally well,

for the most part we still do a good job,

Did we loose scouts? what happen?

[ellicottraven]

47 minutes ago, edthehead said:

at one point we drafted exceptionally well,

for the most part we still do a good job,

Did we loose scouts? what happen?

I think some of our scouts were poached by other teams luring them with better positions. So, there are two things that are happening right now with regard to scouting I think. One, that the rest of the teams are getting solid information really fast just like we do. Two, they're farming small schools much like we do. So, obviously it is more difficult to find hidden gems nowadays than before. Lastly, where we pick plays a big part in how we do after a few years of those picks. Considering that our first round picks haven't been amazing after picking Oher, it is slowly made our team very talent deficient.

[GrimCoconut]

4 hours ago, arnie_uk said:

Break the bank. Totally gutted we didn't draft him. Every year you fall in love with someone, he was mine.

I actually think I had the rams and drafted him in our game.

Yeah, I remember that. I liked him a ton as well. I felt like he'd make a beast of a FS. He's certainly proved to be a very good CB we certainly could've used here.

[Clmraven]

4 hours ago, edthehead said:

at one point we drafted exceptionally well,

for the most part we still do a good job,

Did we loose scouts? what happen?

It's funny you ask, because I recently wrote a really long post in my notes about our recent drafts and how our scouts affect it all, I decided not to post it because most people wouldn't want to read a book about the trends of our scouting department lol, but long story short if you look at our southeast region, it seems most of our bust's have come from that area since 08, until 2014 that is when we promoted a new guy to scout the region and it seemed to have helped because since then we've grabbed Mosley and Jernigan, along with Perriman and T Brooks, the jury is still out on those 2 though.

[usmccharles]

6 minutes ago, Clmraven said:

It's funny you ask, because I recently wrote a really long post in my notes about our recent drafts and how our scouts affect it all, I decided not to post it because most people wouldn't want to read a book about the trends of our scouting department lol, but long story short if you look at our southeast region, it seems most of our bust's have come from that area since 08, until 2014 that is when we promoted a new guy to scout the region and it seemed to have helped because since then we've grabbed Mosley and Jernigan, along with Perriman and T Brooks, the jury is still out on those 2 though.

You should post it.   Maybe in a completely new thread.  I have always been interested in how the scouting department works,  I've asked a couple times but no one  was really ever able to answer 

[Clmraven]

33 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

You should post it.   Maybe in a completely new thread.  I have always been interested in how the scouting department works,  I've asked a couple times but no one  was really ever able to answer 

I'll admit I don't go too far in depth, mainly because it's really hard to find information about scouting but I might post it as a new thread later in the draft board once I do a little more research.

[edthehead]

1 hour ago, Clmraven said:

I'll admit I don't go too far in depth, mainly because it's really hard to find information about scouting but I might post it as a new thread later in the draft board once I do a little more research.

agree, I would hope you do post it, but get ready for many questions,lol