2016 free agency

[GrimCoconut]

This would make me annoyed. Camp's injuries are a concern and Aiken is wildly incosistent. Givens has reliable hands and is another speedy deep threat. Enough with the oft-injured WR's and Aiken is sluggish and has mental lapses at times. No thanks.

I don't think Givens has the best hands, actually. I might be wrong but didn't be have quite a good number of drops against the Rams alone? I also recall drops being a problem for him with STL.

[January J]

This would make me annoyed. Camp's injuries are a concern and Aiken is wildly incosistent. Givens has reliable hands and is another speedy deep threat. Enough with the oft-injured WR's and Aiken is sluggish and has mental lapses at times. No thanks.

yeah Aiken is unreliable as a number 1 or 2. But he's best as a number 3 or 4. I find it funny that you call Aiken inconsistent and yet you support givens who so far has been THE most inconsistent receiver we've had aside from Marlon brown. He's pretty much done nothing. Camp finally got the hamstring issues under control and then a random injury occurred that could have happened to anybody. The second we let him walk a team like New England will be all over him and turn him into a star. We need to give him one more shot to stay healthy. Next year will be his year- I can smell it. Edited November 26, 2015 by January J

[GrimCoconut]

yeah Aiken is unreliable as a number 1 or 2. But he's best as a number 3 or 4. I find it funny that you call Aiken inconsistent and yet you support givens who so far has been THE most inconsistent receiver we've had aside from Marlon brown. He's pretty much done nothing. Camp finally got the hamstring issues under control and then a random injury occurred that could have happened to anybody. The second we let him walk a team like New England will be all over him and turn him into a star. We need to give him one more shot to stay healthy. Next year will be his year- I can smell it.

I think what you smell is the Icy Hot Campanaro applied to his ailing body. Lol, I kid.

I actually agree with you sorta. I will say that it's risky betting on a bunch of injured guys. Steve Smith Sr, Campanaro, Perriman, and Waller are all coming off of IR. That's 4/6th of our likely WR corps.

[January J]

I think what you smell is the Icy Hot Campanaro applied to his ailing body. Lol, I kid.

I actually agree with you sorta. I will say that it's risky betting on a bunch of injured guys. Steve Smith Sr, Campanaro, Perriman, and Waller are all coming off of IR. That's 4/6th of our likely WR corps.

lol good one. That's a good point. Perriman should have plenty of time to heal getting this whole season and the offseason. I'm thinkin Camp will take this offseason very seriously to get in better shape Bc he will realize this could be his last shot with Baltimore..he will also have some extra time since we didn't really even have to put him on IR...as long as he continues doing the yoga I think he'll be fine. Wallers was just your typical hammy pull but it was an issue with not enough bodies... Although I'm not completely sure he will make the roster anyway. I'm done with givens unless he shows us something in the last quarter of the season, but Not counting on it. And hey if SSS decides to return I'd bet on him any day of the week. Edited November 26, 2015 by January J

[GrimCoconut]

lol good one. That's a good point. Perriman should have plenty of time to heal getting this whole season and the offseason. I'm thinkin Camp will take this offseason very seriously to get in better shape Bc he will realize this could be his last shot with Baltimore..he will also have some extra time since we didn't really even have to put him on IR...as long as he continues doing the yoga I think he'll be fine. Wallers was just your typical hammy pull but it was an issue with not enough bodies... Although I'm not completely sure he will make the roster anyway. I'm done with givens unless he shows us something in the last quarter of the season, but Not counting on it. And hey if SSS decides to return I'd bet on him any day of the week.

Yeah, I'm optimistic, too, but to rely on these guys would be a major mistake.

[Winchester]

Upgrade the Left TAckle position!!!!!!! Do whatever must be done to get Eugene Monroe out of here!

ANOTHER terrible waste of $$!! Oz has made that quite a habit. I would not set to high of expectations for Perriman. He could likely have knee problems before the injury that drain his speed. Not that he ever showed 4.2 or even 4.3 game speed anyways!!

As for free agency the ravens should consider Anthony Chickillo. Another player who could stand to be in better shape. He actually is in a little better shape than he showed in college. He will never have the explosion of Shane Ray. However neither does Chandler Jones. However he could be a little more athletic version of Connor Barwin or more similar to Ryan Kerrigan. if he drops some useless weight and adds some functional muscle and trusts his skill to win at the snap more. He does have some underrated flexibility and agility!! If he drops about 13-17 lbs of soggy weight and adds equal parts functional muscle to gain burst and power and arrive at a leaner and far stronger and more explosive 260-267 lbs. this guy could be very much the player Ryan Kerrigan is!! He needs to spend this offseason with Ryan Kerrigan whom takes strength and flexibility training very seriously and follows a very strict nutrition program. Chicillo has the same natural tools as Kerrigan. He actually may be slightly more naturally agile and athletic as Kerrigan as well!! It all boils to if he can adopt a similar work ethic. If it all comes together he will be quite a steal and a long time great and tough Raven defensive star. A very underrated athlete. He just needs more power and explosion to trust himself to win at the snap and go full tilt.

Edited November 26, 2015 by Winchester

[January J]

Yeah, I'm optimistic, too, but to rely on these guys would be a major mistake.

I mean we wouldn't be relying on just them, like I said we would likely add a FA and draft one at some point..it's not likely we revamp the entire corps...some continuity is good too.

[PurpleCity5]

my thoughts exactly. Let givens walk- bring back Aiken and camp. Draft Boyd and/ or sign Experienced FA- get perriman healthy- see if SSS decides to return.

I'm not big on Givens, Id keep him for cheap but I wouldn't fight hard to keep him. Aiken is a solid 3/4. Not a full time starter but hey, he's proven that he can play.

[PurpleCity5]

This would make me annoyed. Camp's injuries are a concern and Aiken is wildly incosistent. Givens has reliable hands and is another speedy deep threat. Enough with the oft-injured WR's and Aiken is sluggish and has mental lapses at times. No thanks.

I disagree, while Aiken surely isn't starting material, he has outpreformed everyone outside of Steve Smith on the receving end, so I don't see why you keep Givens and cut bait with Aiken. I've pointed out Aiken's inconsistencies and negatives myself, but I still believe hes done enough to remain relevent in this offense next season. As far as Camp goes, you're not bringing him back as your #1 or 2 option but rather as a guy who can compete with the other WRs for a spot ok the 53-Man roster. If he makes it then he stays IMO.

Edited November 26, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[jazz1988]

ANOTHER terrible waste of $$!! Oz has made that quite a habit. I would not set to high of expectations for Perriman. He could likely have knee problems before the injury that drain his speed. Not that he ever showed 4.2 or even 4.3 game speed anyways!!

As for free agency the ravens should consider Anthony Chickillo. Another player who could stand to be in better shape. He actually is in a little better shape than he showed in college. He will never have the explosion of Shane Ray. However neither does Chandler Jones. However he could be a little more athletic version of Connor Barwin or more similar to Ryan Kerrigan. if he drops some useless weight and adds some functional muscle and trusts his skill to win at the snap more. He does have some underrated flexibility and agility!! If he drops about 13-17 lbs of soggy weight and adds equal parts functional muscle to gain burst and power and arrive at a leaner and far stronger and more explosive 260-267 lbs. this guy could be very much the player Ryan Kerrigan is!! He needs to spend this offseason with Ryan Kerrigan whom takes strength and flexibility training very seriously and follows a very strict nutrition program. Chicillo has the same natural tools as Kerrigan. He actually may be slightly more naturally agile and athletic as Kerrigan as well!! It all boils to if he can adopt a similar work ethic. If it all comes together he will be quite a steal and a long time great and tough Raven defensive star. A very underrated athlete. He just needs more power and explosion to trust himself to win at the snap and go full tilt.

 

 

Anthony Chickillo is a rookie  that was drafted by The Steelers in the sixth round  this season . The Steelers have him under contract for atleast 3 more years unless he get's cut during the off season.

[Winchester]

He spent time on practice squad. And only under one year contract. And is slated to become a free agent.

[rmw10]

He spent time on practice squad. And only under one year contract. And is slated to become a free agent.

Exclusive rights free agent. Only the Steelers can sign him.

[Tru11]

ANOTHER terrible waste of $$!! Oz has made that quite a habit. I would not set to high of expectations for Perriman. He could likely have knee problems before the injury that drain his speed. Not that he ever showed 4.2 or even 4.3 game speed anyways!!

As for free agency the ravens should consider Anthony Chickillo. Another player who could stand to be in better shape. He actually is in a little better shape than he showed in college. He will never have the explosion of Shane Ray. However neither does Chandler Jones. However he could be a little more athletic version of Connor Barwin or more similar to Ryan Kerrigan. if he drops some useless weight and adds some functional muscle and trusts his skill to win at the snap more. He does have some underrated flexibility and agility!! If he drops about 13-17 lbs of soggy weight and adds equal parts functional muscle to gain burst and power and arrive at a leaner and far stronger and more explosive 260-267 lbs. this guy could be very much the player Ryan Kerrigan is!! He needs to spend this offseason with Ryan Kerrigan whom takes strength and flexibility training very seriously and follows a very strict nutrition program. Chicillo has the same natural tools as Kerrigan. He actually may be slightly more naturally agile and athletic as Kerrigan as well!! It all boils to if he can adopt a similar work ethic. If it all comes together he will be quite a steal and a long time great and tough Raven defensive star. A very underrated athlete. He just needs more power and explosion to trust himself to win at the snap and go full tilt.

 

in the NFL technique is probably the most important thing an athlete should have if he wants to have a productive career.

[Winchester]

Exclusive rights free agent. Only the Steelers can sign him.

lol only one team can sign him?? how is that a free agent at all??

[harfordravenfan]

I think what you smell is the Icy Hot Campanaro applied to his ailing body. Lol, I kid.

I actually agree with you sorta. I will say that it's risky betting on a bunch of injured guys. Steve Smith Sr, Campanaro, Perriman, and Waller are all coming off of IR. That's 4/6th of our likely WR corps.

 

Grim, it's usually you that makes me smile while reading

 

I'm not ready to give up on Camp either but also would like the FO to go after another WR in FA and draft another in the mid rounds. Perhaps it's me being optimistic but the chances have to be in our favor that this team has a season without so many injuries as the past 2 years (and this year being important players)

 

Icy Hot...   lol

[GrimCoconut]

I mean we wouldn't be relying on just them, like I said we would likely add a FA and draft one at some point..it's not likely we revamp the entire corps...some continuity is good too.

Yeah for sure. I think we may even carry 7 WR this year due to the injuries. It all depends on Steve Smith Sr and his decision. I do think the following happens:

We re-sign both Brown and Aiken, but I think Aiken wins and Brown is sent packing (that's if he survives the year).

We keep Waller, Campanaro and Perriman as our young WR ready to take their next our first steps.

We sign a free agent WR to push the young guys and as insurance against their failures. I expect an older veteran WR, likely one acquired after cuts or trade.

We draft a WR in this draft.

That's six WR without Steve Smith Sr. If he returns, it'll likely just add to the list. If not, I don't see the list changing.

[GrimCoconut]

Grim, it's usually you that makes me smile while reading

I'm not ready to give up on Camp either but also would like the FO to go after another WR in FA and draft another in the mid rounds. Perhaps it's me being optimistic but the chances have to be in our favor that this team has a season without so many injuries as the past 2 years (and this year being important players)

Icy Hot... lol

Gotta keep smiling to stop from crying!

I agree. I think we need to draft a WR and sign a free agent regardless of Smith Sr returning or not. This is certainly his last year if he returns, and that'll mean we'll have nobody the year after when he leaves. Maybe Perriman and crew turn on the light, but it's not wise to approach not one offseason but two with that thought process.

That's partly why we're in our current predicament.

[Winchester]

I do not think anybody wants to see ravens management wait until mid rounds for a receiver. That is the problem now with receivers. Until the ravens reached for pro day perriman which was a huge need pick because the ravens waited until the offense got backed into the corner, the ravens picked one receiver in first 2 rounds in last 10 drafts. Then you have Ozzie who is fascinatied and tunnel visioned with comp picks and only signs cut players which means declining receivers. And there you have the worst receivers in the NFL!!

[harfordravenfan]

I do not think anybody wants to see ravens management wait until mid rounds for a receiver. That is the problem now with receivers. Until the ravens reached for pro day perriman which was a huge need pick because the ravens waited until the offense got backed into the corner, the ravens picked one receiver in first 2 rounds in last 10 drafts. Then you have Ozzie who is fascinatied and tunnel visioned with comp picks and only signs cut players which means declining receivers. And there you have the worst receivers in the NFL!!

 

I maybe wrong but I'd be surprised to see a WR taken before the third. And I wouldn't call SSS declining but anyway... what are ur thoughts on the WR position?

[redlobster]

Upgrade the Left TAckle position!!!!!!! Do whatever must be done to get Eugene Monroe out of here!

That's creating a conundrum now.

Ravens are probably debating between CB/S,LT, and DE in the first now with Monroes constant uncertain availability and the backup LT tore your franchise qbs knee

Edited November 27, 2015 by redlobster

[Winchester]

A 3 down physical LB should be aa priority just behind WR. There is no more roles for run stuffing 2 down lbs in any dominant defense in today's NFL. I been saying for years that physical 3 down LBs are more effective in total team defense than a so called elite cornerback. Only thing more disruptive than LBs that cover like safety's. When Safety's are in coverage in spots that LBs usually can not get to it rattles QBs more than anything because to a QB it is like having 2 extra safety's on the field to worry about. It was the key to the sf defense and now the Carolina defense. Ellerbe covering deep and Lewis short was what locked Brady down after halftime in the afccg. The receivers were were scared of ellerbe and Ray and it killed toms timing having LBs to look out for like there were 2 extra safety's on the field. Most QBs will not admit it but some(Redman) will tell you it feels like the defense is cheating!! And any qb that says otherwise is lying. Kuechly and David totally wreck timing,routes and air attacks in general. Josh Norman knows he has safety help and only needs to cover certain areas because the safety's can cheat because they have help from Davis and Kuechly!! In today's NFL it is important LBs can cover like safety's or your defense is at a disadvantage. Next to receiver a physical 3 down physical iLB to pair with Mosley should be #1 priority!! Look at how much panthers rush got better by leaps and bounds when Kuechly and Davis returned!! Davis was a safety and Kuechly is a freak that covers like one!! Mosley has similar skills as kuechly. Much better reacting in zone coverage but he is trying to do to much like cover scatbacks man up because Daryl Smith's and upshaws mobile limitations. Get another 3 down iLB and competent rush LB and watch how fast Mosley returns to all pro form!!

[Shutdown215]

Let be honest here, nobody is coming here after this season. It is going to be like last season, we wait until the free agent frenzy dies down.

[TDubbs]

Let be honest here, nobody is coming here after this season. It is going to be like last season, we wait until the free agent frenzy dies down.

 

If your saying that Baltimore won't be a desirable spot to come to as a FA I couldn't disagree more. Yeah we've had a bad season but players around the league talk to each other, they know what a solid organization this is to play for. 

[PurpleCity5]

If your saying that Baltimore won't be a desirable spot to come to as a FA I couldn't disagree more. Yeah we've had a bad season but players around the league talk to each other, they know what a solid organization this is to play for.

Yeah I don't think any player would mark Baltimore as undesirable because of one bad season, everyone knows this is a model organization that gets to the playoffs along with deep runs realistically every year.

[The Raven]

Let be honest here, nobody is coming here after this season. It is going to be like last season, we wait until the free agent frenzy dies down.

 

Right, because winning records totally dictate where free agents go. Also, when have we ever made a big splash in FA? We always wait until FA dies down, so... where were you going with this?

Edited November 27, 2015 by The Raven

[Shutdown215]

If your saying that Baltimore won't be a desirable spot to come to as a FA I couldn't disagree more. Yeah we've had a bad season but players around the league talk to each other, they know what a solid organization this is to play for.

We are a solid organization, it depends on how fast we turn the ship around. Some people don't want to wait to win

[Winchester]

I maybe wrong but I'd be surprised to see a WR taken before the third. And I wouldn't call SSS declining but anyway... what are ur thoughts on the WR position?

SS is still good but not what he was in the Superbowl run. As for who I like. I just got back to the states and have not watched to many clips of receivers or talked with many peeps bout them. What I do know is there is aa bunch of receivers very close!! Now not all of them will be impact players so the ravens do have to identify their favorites and trade back up into round1 if necessary!! Because it is not pick a receiver left in the hat.

As for receivers I like so far. There is Williams, Thomas,Boyd and Treadwell. As well as Robinson whom is skilled but a project because he has not been featured very long. I am biased for Boyd because he is a complete receiver and competes very hard!! But the best receive for the ravens, nobody can be sure of yet. Scouts Need to watch their games and future games and take into consideration lots of things. Play speed, burst,savvy,resourcefulness, athleticism,fluidity,confidence,naturalness in routes and snagging the football. How they react and adjust to coverages designed to stop them. Body language and muscle movement and reactions when in contact with defensive players. Effort needed and when accelerating,eluding, adjusting to throws and breaking jams or tackles. Lots of things to look for through the draft process. I like Boyd so far and he plays like Keenan Allen who should be a Raven if management was more competent!! I like how Boyd competes and blocks. As for receivers to sign or trade for I like Marqise and Quick. Marqise would be a great partner with Boyd and the offenses toughness if ravens draft Tunsil. It would give the ravens an elite Oline, TEs that block very physicsl and receivers that block very tough with complete games as well as great routes and big play speed!!

[PurpleCity5]

When is DeAndre Hopkins a free agent? 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

When is DeAndre Hopkins a free agent? 

Probably Never

[PurpleCity5]

Probably Never

Had to ask :-(