2016 free agency

[Tru11]

Really? i figured with rice and ngata comming off our books, potential cuts, we would be sitting a little better than that

 

 we have about 5,5 mil free cap space next season.

 

need flacco to get an extension and we would have to make a few cuts/restructure orso to get more cap.

 

if all goes well we might end up with around 20 mil but would have to fill quite a few holes, save for draft and tenders and such.

[Daft Classic]

We are working out hakeem nicks? i didnt see anyone discussing that here.....i dont think he will add much

 

Were you expecting him to? At this point, the Ravens are having a hard enough time just fielding 5 WR's for gameday. At least Nicks was good at some point in his career

[usmccharles]

Were you expecting him to? At this point, the Ravens are having a hard enough time just fielding 5 WR's for gameday. At least Nicks was good at some point in his career

Not at all.  But id rather see Ross or Butler get increased snaps than an old, slow guy who wont be here next season....

[Deflated Football]

Hakeem is better than Aiken and Marlon combined. I've always liked him. Would be a great signing.

[Ravens2343]

Not at all.  But id rather see Ross or Butler get increased snaps than an old, slow guy who wont be here next season....

 

They could just be updating their emergency contact list incase of another injury.  I would like to see Butler be active and given some snaps as well, if we do sign Nicks I would rather him take Browns active spot and sit Marlon Brown down for a few games.

 

If we don't sign Nicks then use SSS roster spot on someone like Beyer or Perry from the PS or try and bring in a young pass rusher from another team's practice squad.

Edited November 3, 2015 by Ravens2343

[rmw10]

Hakeem is better than Aiken and Marlon combined. I've always liked him. Would be a great signing.

I'd use was instead of is. All of his knee and leg injuries have sapped what explosion he had. He's a completely different player nowadays, and it's not a very good one.

[Deflated Football]

I'd use was instead of is. All of his knee and leg injuries have sapped what explosion he had. He's a completely different player nowadays, and it's not a very good one.

He still is though. In 2014, Nicks had 405 yards and 4 TD's compared to Aiken's 267 yards and 3 TD's and Marlon's 255 yards and 0 TD's. That's only a difference of 117 yards between Nicks by himself and Aiken and Marlon combined and he still had one more touchdown than both of them. Nicks also has sure hands and can be a good possession WR for us with BP and Givens stretching the field. Only reason why Marlon and Aiken are still on the team is because we're cheap on offense. They should be on some teams practice squad. 

[rmw10]

He still is though. In 2014, Nicks had 405 yards and 4 TD's compared to Aiken's 267 yards and 3 TD's and Marlon's 255 yards and 0 TD's. That's only a difference of 117 yards between Nicks by himself and Aiken and Marlon combined and he still had one more touchdown than both of them. Nicks also has sure hands and can be a good possession WR for us with BP and Givens stretching the field. Only reason why Marlon and Aiken are still on the team is because we're cheap on offense. They should be on some teams practice squad.

The stats don't reflect the fact that he was in a high powered throwing offense playing a ton of snaps. It might look alright on paper, but it was not a good year for him. That production is not good considering how much he played.

[Deflated Football]

The stats don't reflect the fact that he was in a high powered throwing offense playing a ton of snaps. It might look alright on paper, but it was not a good year for him. That production is not good considering how much he played.

But he still had Hilton, Wayne and Moncrief playing too. I know he's been injured but there's no way he still can't be better than Marlon and Aiken. No way.

[Tru11]

He still is though. In 2014, Nicks had 405 yards and 4 TD's compared to Aiken's 267 yards and 3 TD's and Marlon's 255 yards and 0 TD's. That's only a difference of 117 yards between Nicks by himself and Aiken and Marlon combined and he still had one more touchdown than both of them. Nicks also has sure hands and can be a good possession WR for us with BP and Givens stretching the field. Only reason why Marlon and Aiken are still on the team is because we're cheap on offense. They should be on some teams practice squad. 

 

we are far from cheap on offense.

 

its just they decided to spend most on the QB and o-line and also decided to pay the RB as well.

 

would you rather have no o-line, no qb, no rb and a couple of star receivers?

[Deflated Football]

we are far from cheap on offense.

 

its just they decided to spend most on the QB and o-line and also decided to pay the RB as well.

 

would you rather have no o-line, no qb, no rb and a couple of star receivers?

You can't tell me we're not cheap when Aiken and Marlon come into the season as the number three and four, respectively. 

[Tru11]

You can't tell me we're not cheap when Aiken and Marlon come into the season as the number three and four, respectively. 

 

we might be cheap at WR but we are far from cheap on offense.

 

we actually spend more of the cap on offense then on defense.

 

if you really want to pick a position we are cheap at its dline where we are dead last in spending.

 

there are actually 6 teams who spend less on WRs then us.

saints, panthers , jags, dolphins , texans and chiefs all have less money tied in WRs.

 

BTW it has nothing to do with being cheap though.

there is a salary cap and there is only so much you are allowed to spend...

Edited November 3, 2015 by Tru11

[rmw10]

But he still had Hilton, Wayne and Moncrief playing too. I know he's been injured but there's no way he still can't be better than Marlon and Aiken. No way.

He's been on the open market for half the season and has had multiple tryouts with all teams passing. That doesn't bode well.

[Deflated Football]

we might be cheap at WR but we are far from cheap on offense.

 

we actually spend more of the cap on offense then on defense.

 

if you really want to pick a position we are cheap at its dline where we are dead last in spending.

 

there are actually 6 teams who spend less on WRs then us.

saints, panthers , jags, dolphins , texans and chiefs all have less money tied in WRs.

 

BTW it has nothing to do with being cheap though.

there is a salary cap and there is only so much you are allowed to spend...

Ozzie is cheap with his WR's. He goes to the bargain bin for bandaids. 

[Cillmatic]

Another injury prone player, great

[Tru11]

Ozzie is cheap with his WR's. He goes to the bargain bin for bandaids. 

 

solid argument you got there.

 

you think this is madden where you can turn off the cap orso?

[Deflated Football]

solid argument you got there.

 

you think this is madden where you can turn off the cap orso?

Oh please. The Ravens are excellent with managing cap space. If they wanted a guy they will make it happen. It doesn't have to be a superstar but it needs to be a playmaker unlike the guys we have now. Ozzie has invested in an oft-injured LT, an oft-injured TE and a RB who should've taken the stairs. I know hindsight is 20/20 but he's neglected the WR position in free agency for a while now. I just want some playmakers is all or some guys that can actually get seperation and catch the ball.

[Tru11]

Oh please. The Ravens are excellent with managing cap space. If they wanted a guy they will make it happen. It doesn't have to be a superstar but it needs to be a playmaker unlike the guys we have now. Ozzie has invested in an oft-injured LT, an oft-injured TE and a RB who should've taken the stairs. I know hindsight is 20/20 but he's neglected the WR position in free agency for a while now. I just want some playmakers is all or some guys that can actually get seperation and catch the ball.

 

do you know how the cap works?

where do you see the cap space space to make it work?

 

 

did he not bring in steve smith and drafted perriman and maxx?

 

how is that neglecting?

 

would you rather let yanda walk so we have cap space to sign a playmaker?

 

playmakers cost money and thus cap so you would have to sacrifice something or more then 1 thing to get 1.

 

without hindsight please show me how ozzie was supposed to make a play on the top WRs in FA ...

 

BTW i pretty sure he tried to bring back torrey as well....

Edited November 3, 2015 by Tru11

[Winchester]

Oh please. The Ravens are excellent with managing cap space. If they wanted a guy they will make it happen. It doesn't have to be a superstar but it needs to be a playmaker unlike the guys we have now. Ozzie has invested in an oft-injured LT, an oft-injured TE and a RB who should've taken the stairs. I know hindsight is 20/20 but he's neglected the WR position in free agency for a while now. I just want some playmakers is all or some guys that can actually get seperation and catch the ball.

Both you guys make very valid points. The ravens are tight against the cap. No way could the ravens compete with teams with lots of cap space for players. However if management wants one dude enough it will happen as long as it is not a $100 mil contract player.

[Tru11]

Both you guys make very valid points. The ravens are tight against the cap. No way could the ravens compete with teams with lots of cap space for players. However if management wants one dude enough it will happen as long as it is not a $100 mil contract player.

 

they can make everything happen, its only to be at the expense of something else.

 

personally i rather keep guys like yanda,jimmy and hopefully tucker rather then let them walk and spend that money on a WR.

[Winchester]

Hindsight is his job. I would really like a play for Alshon Jeffrey. A youmger faster more athletic Boldin. I don't think he will get a mega contract. At 31 yrs old we will have to wait to see if Yanda is a good signing. Guards seem to decline after that age. Look at Faneca, Hutchinson,Allen,Mankins. If Yanda signing does go sideways it is a signing that makes sense being he is a stud and leader. And it was relatively cheap for a top guard.

[PurpleCity5]

I think we should sign a WR, but not overpay, I don't think we can afford to do that.

I think the position we NEED to sign the most is pass rusher. We need one really bad and I don't like the upcoming draft class of edge rushers. We need to sign an impact edge rusher here.

[Cillmatic]

Marvin Jones makes the most sense for us, Jeffery will won't too much and gets injuried too much.

[Deflated Football]

I wonder how Hakeem's workout went. Does anyone have any updates?

[DomMcRaven]

Yeah but these boards are interested in every single FA, so it's not so strange

Lol...EVERY? 

 

We have to get one eventually lol.

I don't think it's Eric. That being said. It wouldn't hurt to have a veteran in the secondary. Especially a long time one. I see Webb, Daryl, and Canty not returning, and getting Weddle solves a problem.

That said it's not going to happen in all likeliness. If we're targeting anything it's a reciever on a contract year.

[PurpleCity5]

I wouldn't expect anything from Hakeem Nicks, nor would I expect that we sign him.

[Winchester]

I think we should sign a WR, but not overpay, I don't think we can afford to do that.

I think the position we NEED to sign the most is pass rusher. We need one really bad and I don't like the upcoming draft class of edge rushers. We need to sign an impact edge rusher here.

Totally agree!! Though I do think edge rusher and WR are neck and neck. I would pay a round3 for Mingo. He has more raw explosion and athleticism than any edge rusher in this upcoming draft. I know he needs work but consider the alternative. An edge rusher with that kind of explosion and athleticism that is already sacking qbs will cost far far more than the ravens could or would pay. And he will be playing on a team in a galaxy far far away. For The ravens to address edge rusher the player they are going to bring in for what they would pay is going to be a feeble attempt to address edge rusher. A significant edge rusher will come only by trade. A good fast athletic edge rusher already sacking qbs costs to much on the open market. I would of liked Mingo.

[allblackraven]

Lol...EVERY? 

Well, maybe there wasn't overwhelming support for bringing T-Rich but if Forsett hadn't been really good last year, someone would have called Richardson's name, I'm sure.

[PurpleCity5]

Totally agree!! Though I do think edge rusher and WR are neck and neck. I would pay a round3 for Mingo. He has more raw explosion and athleticism than any edge rusher in this upcoming draft. I know he needs work but consider the alternative. An edge rusher with that kind of explosion and athleticism that is already sacking qbs will cost far far more than the ravens could or would pay. And he will be playing on a team in a galaxy far far away. For The ravens to address edge rusher the player they are going to bring in for what they would pay is going to be a feeble attempt to address edge rusher. A significant edge rusher will come only by trade. A good fast athletic edge rusher already sacking qbs costs to much on the open market. I would of liked Mingo.

I'm going for an edge rusher in FA over WR. As I said before this upcoming draft has a weak edge rusher class, we need a stand-up pass rusher really bad and I think there are some guys in FA or cap cut FA who will help us plenty. 

 

I don't think I would give up a 3rd for Mingo. We got Brandon Williams, Carl Davis, Marshal Yanda, Lardarius Webb, and Crockett Gilmore in the 3rd round. I highly value a 3rd round pick and I'm certain Oz does as well. A 3rd round pick is too steep of a price IMO and apparently many teams feel that way. I don't know if Mingo gets cut, maybe they give him one more shot to prove himself, I wouldn't be upset if we brought him in. I understand players drafted in the top 10 in their rookie deals tend to be highly valued. 

Edited November 3, 2015 by PurpleCity5

[allblackraven]

I'm going for an edge rusher in FA over WR. As I said before this upcoming draft has a weak edge rusher class, we need a stand-up pass rusher really bad and I think there are some guys in FA or cap cut FA who will help us plenty.

I'd rather have experienced DB and top college pass rusher.