2016 free agency

[Deflated Football]

Desean would be a definite asset. I agree with you DF. I'd say Jackson, Perriman, Givens, Ross, draft pick of a Boyd/Doctson, would be lethal. Mix in Forsett, Buck and draft pick would provide stimulus to the plamaking abilities. No doubt. Desean would also be amongst men and head coach that would have intel from the Eagles( his grass roots org).

That would be an excellent WR corps if Ozzie decided on an high octane offensive identity. With the way the defense is playing, I wouldn't mind that kind of identity to be honest. I would definitely be interested in DeSean if he we were released.

[PurpleCity5]

Lewis needs to either be depth or be cut. He's not starting material. We NEED Weddle or someone like Jalen Ramsey. I'm a big fan of Will Hill though.

I agree, Kendrick isn't a starting safety at the very least. I feel that he just isn't liable in coverage, in fact he's a liability. We need a true coverage safety. I love Jalen Ramsey as a prospect, and if we don't upgrade at safety then he's my clear cut choice. 

 

I've kind of cooled down on the idea of getting Weddle, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him, just think we have too many needs right now. We need an Edge rusher, WR, and CB outside of FS. I feel strongly that Edge Rusher will be addressed via FA, the upcoming Draft is a weak edge rusher class, and Biscotti really wanted a pass rusher badly last season, and he was totally right on that outlook. WR gets addressed with a cut guy IMO or via Trade. 

[Deflated Football]

I agree, Kendrick isn't a starting safety at the very least. I feel that he just isn't liable in coverage, in fact he's a liability. We need a true coverage safety. I love Jalen Ramsey as a prospect, and if we don't upgrade at safety then he's my clear cut choice.

I've kind of cooled down on the idea of getting Weddle, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him, just think we have too many needs right now. We need an Edge rusher, WR, and CB outside of FS. I feel strongly that Edge Rusher will be addressed via FA, the upcoming Draft is a weak edge rusher class, and Biscotti really wanted a pass rusher badly last season, and he was totally right on that outlook. WR gets addressed with a cut guy IMO or via Trade.

Good points. Who do you feel could be some key free agent edge rushers the Ravens might look at? If we take care of that in free agency and have our pick of Ramsey, VH3 or a top WR, we will be sitting pretty, especially if we manage to get a solid WR in free agency as well. We badly need a playmaker on defense and picking high in the draft could potentially land us one.

[Winchester]

So Cleveland is having a fire sale?? I like Mingo. I think he is similar to Jamie Collins but with more edge rush speed and skill. He may just need a change of scenery and new team,coach,system and positive environment. He could learn from Dumervil and Suggs next year. Could likely get him for a round4 pick. If he works out he will give the ravens that young explosive edge rusher needed without using a high draft pick. I can promise you will not find his kind of raw skills and explosion in the upcoming draft in round4 if at all.

[Winchester]

I agree, Kendrick isn't a starting safety at the very least. I feel that he just isn't liable in coverage, in fact he's a liability. We need a true coverage safety. I love Jalen Ramsey as a prospect, and if we don't upgrade at safety then he's my clear cut choice. 

 

I've kind of cooled down on the idea of getting Weddle, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him, just think we have too many needs right now. We need an Edge rusher, WR, and CB outside of FS. I feel strongly that Edge Rusher will be addressed via FA, the upcoming Draft is a weak edge rusher class, and Biscotti really wanted a pass rusher badly last season, and he was totally right on that outlook. WR gets addressed with a cut guy IMO or via Trade.

Pretty good post bro!! I actually like many of your posts. What do you think of acquiring Mingo?? Probably not a edge rusher in the upcoming g draft with his raw explosion and sheer athleticism. He could end up playing traditional LB as well similar to Jamie Collins but a more dangerous blitzer than Collins. And at 6'4 250 lbs he could match up in coverage with any TE. But the big prize is add some muscle and polish to him and maybe he becomes an elite edge rusher. What are your thoughts??

[PurpleCity5]

Good points. Who do you feel could be some key free agent edge rushers the Ravens might look at? If we take care of that in free agency and have our pick of Ramsey, VH3 or a top WR, we will be sitting pretty, especially if we manage to get a solid WR in free agency as well. We badly need a playmaker on defense and picking high in the draft could potentially land us one.

I've said this tons of times, but I can't help it, I love Mike Neal for this team. I love his fit. We have such a need at pass rusher and he can rush the passer from basically anywhere. He's similar McPhee, he started out as a Dlinemen and moved to OLB. I don't know if Greenbay will resign him, but he would bring in such needed help. 

 

I'd watch out for Paul Kruger, he hasn't been lights out since coming to Cleveland on that hefty deal, their patience could be running out. I could see us re-upping with Kruger. I think there's a good chance he gets cut, he also feels "Mis-used" according to some report or something he said himself. He's also surrounded by trade rumors. 

 

Another guy could be Tamba Hali, but he's a UFA, I don't know if we'd part with a comp pick for him and I wouldn't play Tug-of-War for him either with another team. 

 

Ahmad Brooks could be considered, but we have a no-tolerance policy so that one is a toss up. 

 

A wild card for me is Cameron Wake. He suffered an Achilles tendon injury at age 33, that's typically not good news. Sad to hear because he returned to his dominant self. Miami could be in deep cap trouble and 2016 is when Ndomokung Suh's cap hit kicks in and goodness is it a behemoth! Its possible Wake can take the fall. They seem stuck with Brent Grimes, and I don't see them cutting Branden Albert or Reshard Jones. Plus they could be interested in keeping Olivier Vernon. 

[thieverycorporation]

That would be an excellent WR corps if Ozzie decided on an high octane offensive identity. With the way the defense is playing, I wouldn't mind that kind of identity to be honest. I would definitely be interested in DeSean if he we were released.

My top receiving corp would consist of Desean slot, Perriman x, Givens y or x (spells either Perriman or draft pick/FA), Ross in the five receiver sets/trickplay, and a acquisition of a Garcon/Kearse (Seattle), Alshon (if released to FA), Baldwin (S.F.) or Josh Boyce. They (excluding) Desean and Alshon maybe very affordable. Abbredaris is in the mix too.

Edited November 3, 2015 by thieverycorporation

[PurpleCity5]

Pretty good post bro!! I actually like many of your posts. What do you think of acquiring Mingo?? Probably not a edge rusher in the upcoming g draft with his raw explosion and sheer athleticism. He could end up playing traditional LB as well similar to Jamie Collins but a more dangerous blitzer than Collins. And at 6'4 250 lbs he could match up in coverage with any TE. But the big prize is add some muscle and polish to him and maybe he becomes an elite edge rusher. What are your thoughts??

Thanks for love dude.

 

Anyways, I don't hear good things from Browns fans about Mingo, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't give him a shot. We need a stand-up pass rusher really bad, not only that but we need a guy with athleticism as well, RBs tend to gash our guys in the passing game. I wasn't a big fan of him prior to the draft, but I never bagged on him either, just wasn't convinced he was worthy of a top ten selection. I would give him a shot here though, if he gets cut it wouldn't hurt to bring him in. We have a great LB coach and Sizzle as a guy he could learn from. I wouldn't mind, just would be a guy I would pursue after getting my targets signed.

[thieverycorporation]

Thanks for love dude.

 

Anyways, I don't hear good things from Browns fans about Mingo, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't give him a shot. We need a stand-up pass rusher really bad, not only that but we need a guy with athleticism as well, RBs tend to gash our guys in the passing game. I wasn't a big fan of him prior to the draft, but I never bagged on him either, just wasn't convinced he was worthy of a top ten selection. I would give him a shot here though, if he gets cut it wouldn't hurt to bring him in. We have a great LB coach and Sizzle as a guy he could learn from. I wouldn't mind, just would be a guy I would pursue after getting my targets signed.

Me either. After looking at the list (free agent0

I'd be inclined to make a run at him. But who knows what cap casualties may crop up. 

[PurpleCity5]

Me either. After looking at the list (free agent0

I'd be inclined to make a run at him. But who knows what cap casualties may crop up. 

I just wouldn't make him a 1st option in FA. I'd take a look at him after the first wave of FA.

[Winchester]

If he is healthy I like Brian Quick. He is a hard worker and was having his coming out party even with terrible qb play before his injury. He would be very cheap with an elite skill set if he is injury free. Cheap talented free agents whom are ready go break out is the way to go. Already coached and acclimated. And just needs some polish, opportunity, system and a hard working motivated team environment. Some others are Zach Brown and OlB Nick Perry. Of players on the trading table I like Jason McCourty although I believe he is making big $$. But so is Jimmy and Jason is actually good. But most of all I like Barkevious Mingo in a trade. He is younger and far more explosive than Hali or Kruger. And he would not cost an early draft pick. The ravens could find their explosive young edge rusher without using a round1 pick and focus on another position of need in the draft.

Edited November 3, 2015 by Winchester

[Daft Classic]

I agree, Kendrick isn't a starting safety at the very least. I feel that he just isn't liable in coverage, in fact he's a liability. We need a true coverage safety. I love Jalen Ramsey as a prospect, and if we don't upgrade at safety then he's my clear cut choice. 

 

I've kind of cooled down on the idea of getting Weddle, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him, just think we have too many needs right now. We need an Edge rusher, WR, and CB outside of FS. I feel strongly that Edge Rusher will be addressed via FA, the upcoming Draft is a weak edge rusher class, and Biscotti really wanted a pass rusher badly last season, and he was totally right on that outlook. WR gets addressed with a cut guy IMO or via Trade. 

 

The draft has some interesting prospects on the D-Line, but we do need to get a quality pass rusher to help lead these young guys we keep stock piling (Smith, Davis, KLM, Williams, Jernigan, Guy, etc.). Would love to see us go after Fairley, Raji, or even re-sign Ngata. If we don't go pass rush early round 1, we definitely go back either late round 1 or early round 2. Whichever we don't use on a pass rusher, we spend on either a corner or safety. 

 

Wide Receiver I think we almost solely get through FA. The WR core currently is too young and all Free agents other than Perriman and Smith (If he returns). There's not much available, but I'd be completely fine with a WR core of Smith, Crabtree, Perriman, Aiken, (3rd Round WR), Waller if Smith comes back. If not, we see who were a comfortable with, but I still think we go after Crab.

[thieverycorporation]

I just wouldn't make him a 1st option in FA. I'd take a look at him after the first wave of FA.

Agreed. But not far after.

[thieverycorporation]

If he is healthy I like Brian Quick. He is a hard worker and was having his coming out party even with terrible qb play before his injury. He would be very cheap with an elite skill set if he is injury free. Cheap talented free agents whom are ready go break out is the way to go. Already coached and acclimated. And just needs some polish, opportunity, system and a hard working motivated team environment. Some others are Zach Brown and OlB Nick Perry. Of players on the trading table I like Jason McCourty although I believe he is making big $$. But so is Jimmy and Jason is actually good. But most of all I like Barkevious Mingo in a trade. He is younger and far more explosive than Hali or Kruger. And he would not cost an early draft pick. The ravens could find their explosive young edge rusher without using a round1 pick and focus on another position of need in the draft.

i forgot about naming him on my list. He would be one my 1st day FA visits. Desean would get simultaneous door bell rings. "You there yet"? "Yep" "Ready set----Ring'. We got this ticket to Baltimore and the contract on the table. "You ready to play like A Raven? I'd even take SSS with me…………for the testimonial.

Edited November 3, 2015 by thieverycorporation

[PurpleCity5]

The draft has some interesting prospects on the D-Line, but we do need to get a quality pass rusher to help lead these young guys we keep stock piling (Smith, Davis, KLM, Williams, Jernigan, Guy, etc.). Would love to see us go after Fairley, Raji, or even re-sign Ngata. If we don't go pass rush early round 1, we definitely go back either late round 1 or early round 2. Whichever we don't use on a pass rusher, we spend on either a corner or safety. 

 

Wide Receiver I think we almost solely get through FA. The WR core currently is too young and all Free agents other than Perriman and Smith (If he returns). There's not much available, but I'd be completely fine with a WR core of Smith, Crabtree, Perriman, Aiken, (3rd Round WR), Waller if Smith comes back. If not, we see who were a comfortable with, but I still think we go after Crab.

I think the DLine is fine, but then again, I think we did say that we'd love to have Ngata back, so to your point, you could be right.

 

I think its very likely we don't use a first on a pass rusher unless Ogbah has a huge rise. WR IMO seems to be a FA aquasition, but I'd still like to see us draft one early as well. Perriman hasn't played a snap and you don't know what you'll get from him. 

 

As far as the vets go, I'm inclined to go for Vjax or Garcon rather than Crab. Don't get me wrong, I think Crabtree is good but I don't think he can raise his level of play here. I feel that he's playing in a good offense and wouldn't do much better here than in Oakland, which is why I'm reluctant to give him the pay day he desires. I think VJax and Garcon are being held back by the offenses they're in and I feel that they can better here, at only half the price. This may seem hypocritical since I've been banging on the table for Marvin Jones, but I feel that Jones is being held back by the number of offensive weapons around him. I feel that he could be a stud WR here and he would be much cheaper as well. Its all about cap for me.

[Deflated Football]

I've said this tons of times, but I can't help it, I love Mike Neal for this team. I love his fit. We have such a need at pass rusher and he can rush the passer from basically anywhere. He's similar McPhee, he started out as a Dlinemen and moved to OLB. I don't know if Greenbay will resign him, but he would bring in such needed help. 

 

I'd watch out for Paul Kruger, he hasn't been lights out since coming to Cleveland on that hefty deal, their patience could be running out. I could see us re-upping with Kruger. I think there's a good chance he gets cut, he also feels "Mis-used" according to some report or something he said himself. He's also surrounded by trade rumors. 

 

Another guy could be Tamba Hali, but he's a UFA, I don't know if we'd part with a comp pick for him and I wouldn't play Tug-of-War for him either with another team. 

 

Ahmad Brooks could be considered, but we have a no-tolerance policy so that one is a toss up. 

 

A wild card for me is Cameron Wake. He suffered an Achilles tendon injury at age 33, that's typically not good news. Sad to hear because he returned to his dominant self. Miami could be in deep cap trouble and 2016 is when Ndomokung Suh's cap hit kicks in and goodness is it a behemoth! Its possible Wake can take the fall. They seem stuck with Brent Grimes, and I don't see them cutting Branden Albert or Reshard Jones. Plus they could be interested in keeping Olivier Vernon.

Thanks for the info! Haven't kept up with defensive free agents or cut possibilities since I'm so fixated on this offense lol.

[PurpleCity5]

Thanks for the info! Haven't kept up with defensive free agents or cut possibilities since I'm so fixated on this offense lol.

No prob. Those are the guys on my list. I know most of them aren't FAs, I mostly looked at cap cuts since those are the guys we tend to go after. I'm with you on the offense, I want us to stop trolling Joe. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

why would Cleveland trade with a division rival? I like Mingo, I like Mack, I like Thomas. We can't get either of them. Cleveland wouldn't do it. Regardless of how dumb they are.

[Deflated Football]

San Diego is shopping Weddle and there's four teams interested. Wonder if we're one of them.

[DomMcRaven]

San Diego is shopping Weddle and there's four teams interested. Wonder if we're one of them.

I doubt it and I'm sure we won't get him. Why am I so confident? Every time someone on these boards are interested in a player, the said player ends up going to a different team. Evidence? This past free agency lol. 

[allblackraven]

I doubt it and I'm sure we won't get him. Why am I so confident? Every time someone on these boards are interested in a player, the said player ends up going to a different team. Evidence? This past free agency lol. 

Yeah but these boards are interested in every single FA, so it's not so strange

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I doubt it and I'm sure we won't get him. Why am I so confident? Every time someone on these boards are interested in a player, the said player ends up going to a different team. Evidence? This past free agency lol.

We have to get one eventually lol.

I don't think it's Eric. That being said. It wouldn't hurt to have a veteran in the secondary. Especially a long time one. I see Webb, Daryl, and Canty not returning, and getting Weddle solves a problem.

That said it's not going to happen in all likeliness. If we're targeting anything it's a reciever on a contract year.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I would trade a mid rounder for Garcon. Redskins are probably going to lose him anyway, and he's familiar with a system we run, is a solid route runner, has dependable hands, and can make plays after the catch. He's not a number one. But at this point. We need to get Flacco someone reliable. And he shouldn't be too expensive.

[Deflated Football]

Yeah but these boards are interested in every single FA, so it's not so strange

Except Weddle isn't a free agent and FS happens to be a need.

[usmccharles]

I think we will be pretty active this free agency considering we will have more cap than previous years, still not sure how much.   With certain cuts that will be made that could change a lot for us, also with Joe's contract we will potentially have even more. 

 

Getting him some WRs via FA i think is the way to go to leave us drafting other needs, because we have plenty as everyone knows.  As much as i like Garcon or Vjax, i just see us ending up with Roddy White and i hope im wrong, i just dont see anything left there.  I like Garcon the most because of his age and we could have him for an extended period of time, paired with BP for the next couple years could do us some good

[Inqui]

I would trade a mid rounder for Garcon. Redskins are probably going to lose him anyway, and he's familiar with a system we run, is a solid route runner, has dependable hands, and can make plays after the catch. He's not a number one. But at this point. We need to get Flacco someone reliable. And he shouldn't be too expensive.

Considering we only gave Boldin away for a 6th for those exact reasons (dubious whether he's #1 material, getting old, expensive and other teams knowing we were going to cut him) I'd imagine a trade for him would involve similar stakes. And Garcon doesn't have the advantage of coming off a strong postseason run.

[allblackraven]

Except Weddle isn't a free agent and FS happens to be a need.

Not talking about him, just about what generally goes on on these boards during free agency

[usmccharles]

We are working out hakeem nicks? i didnt see anyone discussing that here.....i dont think he will add much

[Tru11]

I would trade a mid rounder for Garcon. Redskins are probably going to lose him anyway, and he's familiar with a system we run, is a solid route runner, has dependable hands, and can make plays after the catch. He's not a number one. But at this point. We need to get Flacco someone reliable. And he shouldn't be too expensive.

 

his salary is to high to fit under the cap.

would require a few cuts.

 

I think we will be pretty active this free agency considering we will have more cap than previous years, still not sure how much.   With certain cuts that will be made that could change a lot for us, also with Joe's contract we will potentially have even more. 

 

Getting him some WRs via FA i think is the way to go to leave us drafting other needs, because we have plenty as everyone knows.  As much as i like Garcon or Vjax, i just see us ending up with Roddy White and i hope im wrong, i just dont see anything left there.  I like Garcon the most because of his age and we could have him for an extended period of time, paired with BP for the next couple years could do us some good

 

there will be about 27 teams with more cap space then us.

[usmccharles]

 

 

there will be about 27 teams with more cap space then us.

Really? i figured with rice and ngata comming off our books, potential cuts, we would be sitting a little better than that