The Dean Pees Thread (merged)

[JO_75]

Well according to rotoworld.com FOX Sports' Alex Marvez reports Ravens LBs coach Ted Monachino is a "strong candidate" for the Colts' defensive-coordinator vacancy. So if The Ravens don't keep him then I think it's very telling on how The Ravens feel about Dean Pees.

Monachino was the only coach I thought would be a solid candidate to replace Dean Pees if him and The Ravens decide to go their separate ways.

Great... If this happens it will be Teryl Austin all over again. I hope Suggs convinces Ted to stay or at least talks Harbs into making Ted our new DC. Pees needs to go, our defense needs a new voice and hopefully one that don't sit in a comfy suite all game and is on the sidelines.

[rafahash]

Losing Monachino would be a major loss for next season. I wish I had a little bit of hope of keeping him, but I don't think Pees is going anywhere, and there's no way he turns down a DC gig (as he shouldn't). As said before: Teryl Austin all over again.

[ravensdfan]

Lmao.

I'm down with that. Whatever gets his mediocre butt out of Baltimore absolutely works for me

[Tenacious Faulker]

The fact that Pees hasn't been fired immediately after the season ended means one of two things to me:

 

1) either they WILL keep him

2) they're waiting on Indy's decision on Pagano.

 

I've said it a hundred times now - the Ravens are no longer interested in fielding a Rex Ryan style offense.  It's too costly with Joe's contract and status and the league as moved on from defensive football.  Harbs took the Billichick approach where Pees came from ansd was successful.  Even the Steelers defense is not trying to be the Steel Curtain anymore.  So let's stop with "I want a dominant defense like we used to have".

 

Pees is doing exactly what Harbs wants him to do AND I'm sure that he recognizes that circumstance hasn't allowed for success this year witht he Ravens leading the league in players on the IR.  Theyt had a similar issue last year and miraculously had a nice play off run that could've been a SB run if not for some Billichick/Brady conniving and cheating. 

 

If they do move on from Pees (big IF) it will be for Pagano who is as of yet unavailable.  If Indy is considering firing him the players are still rallying behind him there, another big IF, BUT it's hard to deny that he hasn;t been as successful since Bruce Arians left.   However, Pagano had a great defensive system that is similar to Pees' sporting a fierce pass rush and using zone coverage with average CBs to take advantage of mistakes from pressured QBs.  The only difference now is that he won't have an Ed Reed-type which I think he can still compensate for. 

 

Pagano is the only possible candidate I care to see coaching back there.  Pettine is another possibility, but he's a Rex clone and I'm not sure that he'll be able to manage what we have here.  His teams never featured a franchise QB and were able invested more in great defensive players instead.  Furthermore, both Buffalo and Cleveland's rush defense was lacking under his watches - not something anyone is interested in here.  Lastly, we'd have heard by now if they were bringing him in for an interview so I'm guess it's not going to happen.

 

I'd keep Pees.  Pagano is the only one I'd consider over him.  And even if Pagano or Pettine had managed our defense this year they'd have had the same issues with injuries and it's impossible to know if they'd have fared better or worse. 

[rafahash]

The fact that Pees hasn't been fired immediately after the season ended means one of two things to me:

 

1) either they WILL keep him

2) they're waiting on Indy's decision on Pagano.

 

I'm confused. Didn't Pagano already get his new contract?

 

I agree with the rest of your post, though. I just hope we can retain Monachino.

[terrynjulia03]

Pagano already got his contract. His job was safe once Luck went down. I have a bad feeling hes gonna bring Ted over as his DC.

As for Pees it has already been reported in numerous articles that this was the last year on his deal. Maybe theyre waiting on some of these playoff teams, cough AZ cough Seattle cough Minn or Denver even to get done to interview coaches.

[The Raven]

According to Mike Preston's source inside The Castle, Dean Pees's job is safe for next season. 

 

This is also a great column by Preston, explaining why we struggled, why we'll be better next season, and why Pees should stay.

Edited January 6, 2016 by The Raven

[Tru11]

According to Mike Preston's source inside The Castle, Dean Pees's job is safe for next season. 

 

This is also a great column by Preston, explaining why we struggled, why we'll be better next season, and why Pees should stay.

 

He is right but people hate for pees runs deep here lol.

[Tank 92]

According to Mike Preston's source inside The Castle, Dean Pees's job is safe for next season. 

 

This is also a great column by Preston, explaining why we struggled, why we'll be better next season, and why Pees should stay.

 

Yeah, Preston hits all of the logic here that, for whatever reason, is ignored by some.

[The Raven]

He is right but people hate for pees runs deep here lol.

 

Oh believe me, I know.

 

If Preston's source is right, I think it's Pees's last chance, but really, you don't make change just for the sake of change in the NFL. Teams that do that are teams that lose. Halfway through the season even I wanted Pees fired, just to go in a different direction, but it doesn't really work that way in the NFL.

[ravensdfan]

The fact that Pees hasn't been fired immediately after the season ended means one of two things to me:

 

1) either they WILL keep him

2) they're waiting on Indy's decision on Pagano.

 

I've said it a hundred times now - the Ravens are no longer interested in fielding a Rex Ryan style offense.  It's too costly with Joe's contract and status and the league as moved on from defensive football.  Harbs took the Billichick approach where Pees came from ansd was successful.  Even the Steelers defense is not trying to be the Steel Curtain anymore.  So let's stop with "I want a dominant defense like we used to have".

 

Pees is doing exactly what Harbs wants him to do AND I'm sure that he recognizes that circumstance hasn't allowed for success this year witht he Ravens leading the league in players on the IR.  Theyt had a similar issue last year and miraculously had a nice play off run that could've been a SB run if not for some Billichick/Brady conniving and cheating. 

 

If they do move on from Pees (big IF) it will be for Pagano who is as of yet unavailable.  If Indy is considering firing him the players are still rallying behind him there, another big IF, BUT it's hard to deny that he hasn;t been as successful since Bruce Arians left.   However, Pagano had a great defensive system that is similar to Pees' sporting a fierce pass rush and using zone coverage with average CBs to take advantage of mistakes from pressured QBs.  The only difference now is that he won't have an Ed Reed-type which I think he can still compensate for. 

 

Pagano is the only possible candidate I care to see coaching back there.  Pettine is another possibility, but he's a Rex clone and I'm not sure that he'll be able to manage what we have here.  His teams never featured a franchise QB and were able invested more in great defensive players instead.  Furthermore, both Buffalo and Cleveland's rush defense was lacking under his watches - not something anyone is interested in here.  Lastly, we'd have heard by now if they were bringing him in for an interview so I'm guess it's not going to happen.

 

I'd keep Pees.  Pagano is the only one I'd consider over him.  And even if Pagano or Pettine had managed our defense this year they'd have had the same issues with injuries and it's impossible to know if they'd have fared better or worse. 

1. Pagano already has his contract.

2. It's being reported Pees' contract is up - so I think it says something no new deal has been announced.

3. No he isn't doing what Harbs expected. I already posted Harbs' stated expectations when Pees came in of a fiery Dean Pees and an aggressive defense.

 

Like I said, we have no say. Just don't expect any different if he's still here next year.

[Deflated Football]

I've accepted the fact that he'll be here next season.

It's funny to me however how no team is expressing any interest in him for any kind of open position thoughout the league. After a five win season, you would think some kind of important change would be made, especially for a rather underperforming defense that allowed the likes of Josh McCown to throw for almost 500 yards against us.

If it was up to me, I would've fired Dean and promoted Monachino, and I think it's a mistake letting the latter leave, but hey, who am I?

[BSHU_Miami]

Being prepared to be highly disappointed tomorrow and see them retaining pees, this has the cam Cameron feel again...oh well when we start off again 29th in defense after we draft our first 3 picks are defense hopefully they'll fire him in season like they did to cam. Seen this movie way too much times before.

[ellicottraven]

I've accepted the fact that he'll be here next season.

It's funny to me however how no team is expressing any interest in him for any kind of open position thoughout the league. After a five win season, you would think some kind of important change would be made, especially for a rather underperforming defense that allowed the likes of Josh McCown to throw for almost 500 yards against us.

If it was up to me, I would've fired Dean and promoted Monachino, and I think it's a mistake letting the latter leave, but hey, who am I?

Based on your name, I assume you would be a deflated football!

[Deflated Football]

Based on your name, I assume you would be a deflated football!

Knowing Tom Brady makes one want to forget!

[jazz1988]

According to Mike Preston's source inside The Castle, Dean Pees's job is safe for next season. 

 

This is also a great column by Preston, explaining why we struggled, why we'll be better next season, and why Pees should stay.

 

I think the defense will be better with or without Pees but it is what it is.

[jazz1988]

I've accepted the fact that he'll be here next season.

It's funny to me however how no team is expressing any interest in him for any kind of open position thoughout the league. After a five win season, you would think some kind of important change would be made, especially for a rather underperforming defense that allowed the likes of Josh McCown to throw for almost 500 yards against us.

If it was up to me, I would've fired Dean and promoted Monachino, and I think it's a mistake letting the latter leave, but hey, who am I?

 

Dean Pees is over  60 years old no team would be interested in him as a head coach. I'm not even sure if his contract is up so no other team would be interested in him as a defensive coordinator either.

 

I think changes will happen on the coaching staff but more likely at the position coaches but honestly it's possible no changes will happen.

[Cillmatic]

Well then I guess Ted is leaving. Sucks. Bye bye LB coach

[ravensdfan]

If we let Ted leave because we're retaining Mr. Mediocre - that lowers my opinion of this FO's foresight and big picture decision making.

[JO_75]

This is going to end up like Cam. Cam overstayed his welcome by a year or so, and Pees is over staying his welcome.

[DenverRaven]

I've accepted the fact that he'll be here next season.

It's funny to me however how no team is expressing any interest in him for any kind of open position thoughout the league. After a five win season, you would think some kind of important change would be made, especially for a rather underperforming defense that allowed the likes of Josh McCown to throw for almost 500 yards against us.

If it was up to me, I would've fired Dean and promoted Monachino, and I think it's a mistake letting the latter leave, but hey, who am I?

 

For real, figured he'd be a hot commodity as an offensive coordinator. 

[ellicottraven]

Lovie Smith to act as defensive consultant and help Pees with the defense anybody? He was just fired by the Bucs.

[atomicfront]

All of you knocking Pees look at the guys he has out there playing for him.  Then look at the 2006 Ravens defense that Rex Ryan had playing:

 

Ray Lewis

Bart Scott

Haloti Ngati

Tyrell Suggs

Adalius Thomas

Ed Reed

Trevor Pryce

Chris McAlister

Samari Rolle

Jarret Johnson

Kelley Gregg

Dawan Landry

[atomicfront]

If we let Ted leave because we're retaining Mr. Mediocre - that lowers my opinion of this FO's foresight and big picture decision making.

 

Linebackers didn't play that well this season. I am not sure why you think he would be better than Pees.  

[Cillmatic]

Jeff Zrebiec reports

Ravens OLB coach Ted Monachino and DL coach Clarence Brooks highly thought of around league. Both close with Pagano, too.

4:38 PM - 5 Jan 2016

[jazz1988]

Linebackers didn't play that well this season. I am not sure why you think he would be better than Pees.  

 

Ted been getting defensive coordinator consideration for the past two years. I don't think one bad year by the outside linebacker should discredit everything else he has done.

[balfan23]

Linebackers didn't play that well this season. I am not sure why you think he would be better than Pees.  

You knock people for criticizing Pees because of poor personnel, then want to say that Monachino didn't have a good year because the linebackers didn't play well? The same excuse for poor performance would apply to both. 

 

I do agree that it is somewhat silly to just assume he'd be better than Pees as a DC. It is a different job and no on knows how anyone is going to do when they get promoted to the next level of coaching. It is like assuming that a great coordinator will automatically become a great HC. It simply doesn't always work out that way.  

[balfan23]

Lovie Smith to act as defensive consultant and help Pees with the defense anybody? He was just fired by the Bucs.

Geez .. why all the negs? Lovie is a solid football guy. This doesn't sound like that crazy an idea ... except that I'm sure he'll get a better job offer somewhere in the league than a defensive consultant. 

[jazz1988]

Lovie Smith to act as defensive consultant and help Pees with the defense anybody? He was just fired by the Bucs.

 

Lovie Smith and Pees have two different defensive philosophies that's like disaster waiting to happen.

[BSHU_Miami]

Well now here is a candidate. Leslie's Frazier is also gone from Tampa