The Dean Pees Thread (merged)

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Who Plays AJ Green One on One ?

[Ozzsome]

Pees is a joke. That guy needs to go as soon as possible

There is no excuse to let Kendrick Freaking Lewis cover AJ Green after the Go-Ahead TD. This is just plain and simple stupid

If I were a neurologist I'd love to study Pees because nobody knows what goes on in your brain when you let a premier NFL WR covered by someone whose worst attribute probably is man coverage. Unaccaptable!

[Kid87]

Do what we gotta do

[Static]

Im excited for the Pea's interview where he throws the players under the bus 

[GrimCoconut]

But the 4th quarter meltdowns are a continued trend. But we're not supposed to blame that on him either.

I might point out Harbaugh also said it would be nice to get a stop inside 2 mins for once as well.

I'm done with Pees. It's not some sudden decision either. I'm so sick of him at the moment. These problems continue and I still see no improvement. I just want someone new now. I still don't think he's a bad coordinator but I am convinced he doesn't have the full support of the players.

[bMore Heathen]

I'm done with Pees. It's not some sudden decision either. I'm so sick of him at the moment. These problems continue and I still see no improvement. I just want someone new now. I still don't think he's a bad coordinator but I am convinced he doesn't have the full support of the players.

The problem imo, is he doesn't see a problem. He blames it on the players when he himself could be doing something. If he could just teach these guys to properly wrap up, it would improve things in a major way. But he thinks the season is too physical and guys shouldn't be taught that in practice. Just improvement in that 1 area would make so much of a difference.

[GrimCoconut]

The problem imo, is he doesn't see a problem. He blames it on the players when he himself could be doing something. If he could just teach these guys to properly wrap up, it would improve things in a major way. But he thinks the season is too physical and guys shouldn't be taught that in practice. Just improvement in that 1 area would make so much of a difference.

Players should honestly come to the NFL ready to tackle. With that said, our tackling isn't horrible but it's very inconsistent. I don't see them buying into his schemes. Sometimes they do, but when they play with complete apathy I don't see how they trust in his calls.

I think he just doesn't have their support and I'd rather get a DC who has his guys' support over one who doesn't. In fact, I don't think a player has ever talked him up or defended him.

[rmw10]

The problem imo, is he doesn't see a problem. He blames it on the players when he himself could be doing something. If he could just teach these guys to properly wrap up, it would improve things in a major way. But he thinks the season is too physical and guys shouldn't be taught that in practice. Just improvement in that 1 area would make so much of a difference.

 

I've never been a Pees fan.  I've shown "support" here for him, which has really been nothing more than pointing out that all the blame can't be pinned on him if the players don't play well.  I'm still not a fan and wouldn't be upset to see him go at all, but the idea of him teaching tackling fundamentals is not on him.  That's on the scouting department to pick guys that don't have deficiencies there, and then on the position coaches for those that are struggling with those fundamentals.  I can't place blame on poor tackling on Pees.  Pees' main job is game planning and play calling.

[GrimCoconut]

I've never been a Pees fan. I've shown "support" here for him, which has really been nothing more than pointing out that all the blame can't be pinned on him if the players don't play well. I'm still not a fan and wouldn't be upset to see him go at all, but the idea of him teaching tackling fundamentals is not on him. That's on the scouting department to pick guys that don't have deficiencies there, and then on the position coaches for those that are struggling with those fundamentals. I can't place blame on poor tackling on Pees. Pees' main job is game planning and play calling.

Pees needs to either scheme these guys to their strengths or whoever brings in our CB needs to be fired today. It's strange how suddenly we have serious issues with tackling when we never did before.

[MrPlankton]

Dean Pees had Kendrick Lewis 1 on 1 with AJ Green. Remember Week 1 of last season? Yeah.

[bMore Heathen]

I've never been a Pees fan. I've shown "support" here for him, which has really been nothing more than pointing out that all the blame can't be pinned on him if the players don't play well. I'm still not a fan and wouldn't be upset to see him go at all, but the idea of him teaching tackling fundamentals is not on him. That's on the scouting department to pick guys that don't have deficiencies there, and then on the position coaches for those that are struggling with those fundamentals. I can't place blame on poor tackling on Pees. Pees' main job is game planning and play calling.

The point is if that is a major weakness of the team, and it has for the last 3 years, you obviously need to spend time teaching it. Players come from all different types of teams in college. Alabama for example teaches excellent fundamentals and it shows in their players. Not all players come from that kind of situation. When you see guys just diving at receivers, I guess to try and knock them off balance, rather than wrapping a player up its a huge problem.

He talked in his press conference last week how hard it is to tackle in space, so then why is our whole defense predicated on giving the opposing team MORE space to work with? Then have a corner run at him full speed and just dive at the ball carrier. If that is ok in the coaches mind then they need to go. And they must not see an issue with it because it has been happening for YEARS.

Edited September 27, 2015 by bMore Heathen

[bMore Heathen]

Pees needs to either scheme these guys to their strengths or whoever brings in our CB needs to be fired today. It's strange how suddenly we have serious issues with tackling when we never did before.

Never did before?!? We may have been watching different teams. This has been a problem for the last 3 seasons.

[redrum52]

No one on the team stopped AJ. That isn't a Pees problem but at this point I just don't care.

[GrimCoconut]

Never did before?!? We may have been watching different teams. This has been a problem for the last 3 seasons.

Actually, to be fair, I was wrong. I meant it wasn't a problem before Pees but that's not correct. I forgot about the dark ages with Foxworth, Walker, Ivy, and others. Still, there's a problem and it needs to be fixed.

[arnie_uk]

Been calling for this since two seasons ago where the defense blew like 4 4th qtr leads in almost as many weeks. It's coming to a head now.

I don't know if it gets done mid season, but he simply can't be here next year

[Ozzsome]

No one on the team stopped AJ. That isn't a Pees problem but at this point I just don't care.

It completely is on Pees. If you can't cover AJ 1 on 1 you need to double him, which he did on like 2 plays

[GrimCoconut]

Been calling for this since two seasons ago where the defense blew like 4 4th qtr leads in almost as many weeks. It's coming to a head now.

I don't know if it gets done mid season, but he simply can't be here next year

I agree. I'm not interested in necessarily firing him now, but I want him gone next year. We could win the Super Bowl and I still want him gone. No need to promote a young positional coach who will only get snatched up by another team if they do well for us in a mediocre year. You can't hire a guy off the streets, either.

[rmw10]

The point is if that is a major weakness of the team, and it has for the last 3 years, you obviously need to spend time teaching it. Players come from all different types of teams in college. Alabama for example teaches excellent fundamentals and it shows in their players. Not all players come from that kind of situation. When you see guys just diving at receivers, I guess to try and knock them off balance, rather than wrapping a player up its a huge problem.

He talked in his press conference last week how hard it is to tackle in space, so then why is our whole defense predicated on giving the opposing team MORE space to work with? Then have a corner run at him full speed and just dive at the ball carrier. If that is ok in the coaches mind then they need to go. And they must not see an issue with it because it has been happening for YEARS.

 

I'm not saying it's not a problem, but it's not on Pees to go out there and teach it or anything.  It's his job to delegate those issues to his staff and have them work on it.  We can't say for sure if he is or isn't doing that.  Most guys who have issues with the basic football fundamentals are always going to have those deficiencies.  It's not easy to change what someone has been doing nearly their whole football career.  They may exhibit progress is practice, but when they get in the games, the instincts take over.  For some, those instincts are not to wrap up.  I'm not saying it's impossible or anything to change, just that it's not an easy and overnight process.  This could very well be a focus in practice that just isn't translating on the field.

 

There's a lot that Pees deserves blame for, but the lacking of tackling fundamentals is not one of them.

[Edgar]

Who Plays AJ Green One on One ?

Sometimes it's Kendrick Lewis apparently.

[redrum52]

Sometimes it's Kendrick Lewis apparently.

This you can blame on Pees.

[Edgar]

No one on the team stopped AJ. That isn't a Pees problem but at this point I just don't care.

Have to have our best corner on him down the stretch. Even though AJ Green ate him up.

[Edgar]

This you can blame on Pees.

Simply unbelievable that that was the case.unbelievable.

[Cillmatic]

From reporter on B/R "Kendrick Lewis told me miscommunication remains a problem in secondary."

Either ALL of the DB's we've had in the past 3-4 seasons have been mentally stupid or Pees doesn't know how to run a defense.

[redrum52]

Simply unbelievable that that was the case.unbelievable.

Arrington on the outside as well. Some real questionable crap.

[ratedr]

Pees is the new Cam.

[ratedr]

Arrington on the outside as well. Some real questionable crap.

Seriously, EVERYONE knows that Arrington is not effective on the outside. It's crazy.

[The Raven]

I think Pees' defense might be too complicated for our players. A veteran like Babin still isn't active because he doesn't know the playbook and miscommunications are still happening in the secondary. Keep it simple, stupid. I think, defensively, we're thinking too much and not playing enough.

[GrimCoconut]

I think Pees' defense might be too complicated for our players. A veteran like Babin still isn't active because he doesn't know the playbook and miscommunications are still happening in the secondary. Keep it simple, stupid. I think, defensively, we're thinking too much and not playing enough.

I couldn't agree more. It would certainly explain a lot of our issues with communication.

[rmw10]

I think Pees' defense might be too complicated for our players. A veteran like Babin still isn't active because he doesn't know the playbook and miscommunications are still happening in the secondary. Keep it simple, stupid. I think, defensively, we're thinking too much and not playing enough.

 

There's definitely a larger issue than simply getting outplayed.  That certainly factors in, but there's too much talent on that defense to be playing as poorly as they are.  The complete lack of pass rush is a huge hit, but we still have very good players at every level of the defense, and a large majority of them aren't playing up to their abilities.

[BSHU_Miami]

I think Pees' defense might be too complicated for our players. A veteran like Babin still isn't active because he doesn't know the playbook and miscommunications are still happening in the secondary. Keep it simple, stupid. I think, defensively, we're thinking too much and not playing enough.

ive been saying this as well