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[News] Eisenberg: Ozzie Newsome Walking A Fine Line

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in my eyes they weren't even close to a super bowl pick.i had them at best 8-8 before the injuries,now between 4 or 6 wins at best.

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I didn't have us in the Super Bowl either- Ozzie never addressed the corner back position, and he didn't properly address the other skill position, WR.

That's why we're having issues with our corners getting burned and having no deep threats on our team. We didn't even have a punt returner figured out recently until now- I would definitely have to say Ozzie has been slipping over the past five years.

Who on earth would have a 36 yr old receiver as the best receiver on the team- after SSS, there's a huge drop off. Ozzie is not known for picking WRs, so how could we even think he would've hit with Perriman to be Torrey's replacement. Besides Mosely, I don't think Ozzie has made a pro bowl pick in some time- plus, he can't draft good safeties (Elam and Brooks? Come on 'man) and corners outside of Jimmy Smith (but it was rare for Ozzie to even spend a high pick on a corner). I say you let Ozzie just pick lineman and linebackers and let Costa pick the rest. Forsett and Tucker weren't Ozzie finds either

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The true gamble is in the NFL draft because you just don't know if the young men will transition to the NFL. Oz is pretty good at that gamble. However if you have a chance to get a guy who has already shown what he can do at the NFL level for example: Boldin , Mason and most recently SSS it is worth a trade to get that proven player. I know SSS was a free agent it was just to make a point could you imagine getting him 6 or 7 years ago and it costing only a draft pick or two?

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Yogi's "fork in the road" comment was meant for a friend who was coming to his house. Most people do not know that Yogi lived on a "Circle"... and it didn't matter which way you went, right or left, it would bring you to his house.

So, when he said "When you come to the fork in the road, take it..." That's exactly what he meant. So no, apparently there was no good purpose or lesson in his statement...

My only thought has always been.... Just Go For IT... Period.

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To the fans talking down on Ozzie, what other GM would you rather have?

Hey, just think...  We could be the Dolphins.

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Hey, just think...  We could be the Dolphins.

 

Or the Browns, Jaguars, Raiders, or just insert any team here who has been bad for years and have gone through countless General Managers and front office personell without any real progress. 

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Hey, just think...  We could be the Dolphins.

Once again Mom Gene, you put it in perspective. I would not want anyone but Oz. I do still think Oz and his staff need to find a better way to evaluate the WR position but that's just from hindsight vision and their track record of picking the WR position.

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I stopped reading the article when it said "if the season ended now the jets would..". I still don't understand what that scenario has to do with anything

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To the fans talking down on Ozzie, what other GM would you rather have?

 

Those kind of fans either don't realize how lucky we are to have Ozzie compare to other GMs or are just trying to ruffle feathers for kicks. There are those who does not understand how or are too narrow minded to appreciate that the good greatly outweighs the bad with Ozzie at the helm. 

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Ozzy has already sent all of our top weapons away, how much do you miss boldin now?

 

I understand your frustration, but you have to think about it like this, nobody knew Perriman would be injured, Terrell Suggs out,

 

Brent Urban injured again!?!. As bad as it looks, just Perriman & Suggs on the field for this team very well

 

might have been thedifference between a win & a loss on those first 3 games, especially given the fact that

they were all lost by 6 points or less despite us being low on star players.

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Just because Ozzie is frugal doesn't mean he'd look a gift horse in the mouth which is what Alshon Jeffery for a 3rd round pick would be. Even with this being his last season and his hamstring issues the ravens would be foolish to pass up a deal like that. First he's Chicago's #1WR and is worth a 1st round pick. He's a proven commodity. Second, Smith Sr. is retiring at the end of the season and it would free up some cap space for afford Jeffery. Third, Jeffery and Trestman are familiar with each other and would likely enhance. Lastly, we will not have a proven veteran on roster in 2016. Jeffery could be that guy. With his and Perriman ins Trestman's offense, it could resemble Marshall and Jeffery from 2013. Jeffery for a 3rd round pick would be an amazing trade that could set up the Ravens at WR for 4-5 years. That said, it won't happen.

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Do believe Ozzie should be given the benefit of the doubt. We're not that far removed from a SB win and most teams(Patriots excepted)find it a tough climb after that. He's not trading away the future for some pie in the sky hopes and the moves to this date look sound.Let's not throw in the towel as it's still doable.

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Ozzie is smart enough not to trade away the future for a present without guarantee. He could trade it away only to have that new player develop a serious injury, then what? Team would be done for this season and next season too. It's why I am not expecting a proven, high priced receiver through trade. Success is not guaranteed!

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Just because Ozzie is frugal doesn't mean he'd look a gift horse in the mouth which is what Alshon Jeffery for a 3rd round pick would be. Even with this being his last season and his hamstring issues the ravens would be foolish to pass up a deal like that. First he's Chicago's #1WR and is worth a 1st round pick. He's a proven commodity. Second, Smith Sr. is retiring at the end of the season and it would free up some cap space for afford Jeffery. Third, Jeffery and Trestman are familiar with each other and would likely enhance. Lastly, we will not have a proven veteran on roster in 2016. Jeffery could be that guy. With his and Perriman ins Trestman's offense, it could resemble Marshall and Jeffery from 2013. Jeffery for a 3rd round pick would be an amazing trade that could set up the Ravens at WR for 4-5 years. That said, it won't happen.

You are forgetting the salary cap. Smith will free up about $3 million, Jeffrey will want $12 million. You still need salary cap space to get deals done with Flacco, Tucker, Yanda, KO, Upshaw, etc. So in order to sign Jeffrey you're are giving up one of those players. Yanda & 3rd Round pick is NOT a good deal...

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The 'line' would not be as fine if Flacco knew of the time- to occasionally run with the ball :) I'm not gonna stop with this- it is beyond ridiculious. Go Maalox, Go Caffeine to wake Joe up, and GO RAVENS !

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If you can get a 1st round pick (who is playing like a 1st round pick) for a 3rd rounder... thats a good trade... many 1st round picks dont become impact players. We have one that has not yet played up to his potential? (not saying he wont) but when you can land a top notch WR like an Alshon Jeffery.... then it is not so bad to lose a 3rd round pick for a guarnteed top notch WR... remember a 1st rounder is not a guarantee... much less a 3rd- i would rather draft a player bc in todays NFL its about being under the cap and when you draft them you have them 3 years for a some investment but sometimes you need a proven comodity and with our luck at drafting WR.... this may be the place to go for the proven player!

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Ozzy has already sent all of our top weapons away, how much do you miss boldin now?

I don't. The Ravens already have a 40 YPG receiver with 1 TD for the year.....

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Ozzy has already sent all of our top weapons away, how much do you miss boldin now?

Boldin, and Torrey for that matter, haven't done jack this year. Yeah, not really missing them right now. Steve Smith has more than matched the production of Boldin, he just happens to be hurt.

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Ozzy has already sent all of our top weapons away, how much do you miss boldin now?

So I guess we should just pay anybody who is a decent player the money they think they deserve....  We've done so much more...  with so much less.

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The Ravens were remarkably short on skill players even before the injuries. I think they put so many eggs in the Perriman basket and it has scrambled badly. The best case scenario is for all three running backs to make a lot of hay behind what is perceived to be a top 5 offensive line.

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"DONT TRIP"! Ozzie and Co. were one very very very bad pass away from winning a Super Bowl last season so Ozzie need not worry about a thing! As far as this season goes the Ravens should of came home after "ALMOST" beating the broncos plus holding peyton manning under 20pts! The Ravens just stumbled out the gate and have yet to hit their stride! "LOYALTY " has been tested and of these so called fans flunked miserably! All the finger pointing and whining! "WE GOOD" so get on or get off! LETS GO!

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Sounds like a lot of HOT AIR! Ravens are going to have 12 picks supposedly with all the comps, so giving up a 4th, 5th for a quality WR.. Its not a bad idea. There are plenty of options other then Jeffrey, you got Boldin, Roberts, a whole slew of names being tossed around...Eisenberg

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So I guess we should just pay anybody who is a decent player the money they think they deserve....  We've done so much more...  with so much less.

1-3 start, what have we done with so much less? When was the last time we beat the Bangals?

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