[News] Ravens Wide Receivers Fired Up By Doubters

[Purple Dawg 96]

"Ravens WRs fired up about the doubters" Marlon, Kamar, Campy and Waller I had yall back from DAY ONE! They red me up tryin to show support for the youngsters! Like I said we didn't need Perriman because we were good with whom we have already they are utilizing them to the best of their abilities! Pump fakes, double moves, stop and go's will get these guys rolling! Routes create separation also!

LETS GO!

[purpledown]

I think Aiken can do it , someone has to step up, anyone.

[January J]

I think Aiken can do it , someone has to step up, anyone.

yes he can .

[EdBallhawkReed20]

I would say this for the receiver core that Flacco has this year. I can't completely blame them as much as I blame Flacco. He needs to get the ball there and given the receiver core for this game that is extremely tall 6'2" 6'5" 6'6" (not sure about Givens height). Hit receivers in stride, bullet passes (these contested toss up throws are not helping receivers weekly), high passes where only the receiver can make a play on the ball should have been the focus of this week in practice. Possibly to the chest of smaller receivers... Flacco has to do his part this season by stepping into throws to complete passes (the entire game not the last drive). Getting hit is apart of the game even as a quarterback. You want to help your offensive line with all these blitzes, step into throw take the hit and get the completion. Teams will respect Joe more as a quarterback if they see he is not easily rattled, or afraid throwing off his back foot which he can't do... My biggest knock is please don't throw to one receiver all game. For example it was the Steve Smith show then the Kamar Aiken show and then to say your "receiver core is not ideal." I put a lot of blame on Flacco going to the well too many times and not getting the ball to receivers more than them not being great players. Its not like our receivers are missing wide open passes when given opportunity, but they will miss bad passes which I don't fault them for... Joe if you are really about WINNING stop being a COWARD!

[trevorsteadman]

I would say this for the receiver core that Flacco has this year. I can't completely blame them as much as I blame Flacco. He needs to get the ball there and given the receiver core for this game that is extremely tall 6'2" 6'5" 6'6" (not sure about Givens height). Hit receivers in stride, bullet passes (these contested toss up throws are not helping receivers weekly), high passes where only the receiver can make a play on the ball should have been the focus of this week in practice. Possibly to the chest of smaller receivers... Flacco has to do his part this season by stepping into throws to complete passes (the entire game not the last drive). Getting hit is apart of the game even as a quarterback. You want to help your offensive line with all these blitzes, step into throw take the hit and get the completion. Teams will respect Joe more as a quarterback if they see he is not easily rattled, or afraid throwing off his back foot which he can't do... My biggest knock is please don't throw to one receiver all game. For example it was the Steve Smith show then the Kamar Aiken show and then to say your "receiver core is not ideal." I put a lot of blame on Flacco going to the well too many times and not getting the ball to receivers more than them not being great players. Its not like our receivers are missing wide open passes when given opportunity, but they will miss bad passes which I don't fault them for... Joe if you are really about WINNING stop being a COWARD!

His receivers are not getting separation to "throw in stride". Yes they are 6'5 and 6'6 but do they play that way? No. While Steve Smith is playing like he is 7 feet tall they are not using their body. That is not on Flacco. If you do not trust that target you do not throw it to them or it will result in a turnover and that is the last thing we need. Forsett said he would not want any other quarterback over Flacco and he played with Aaron Rodgers. Torrey Smith calls him elite to this day. I am surprised he has done well with what he has because if you look around the league if you take out Steve Smith the Ravens have the worst offensive weapons in the league. 

[geaux_ravens]

We don't need any heroes , all we need are those chains moving , touchdowns , and wins!

[EdBallhawkReed20]

His receivers are not getting separation to "throw in stride". Yes they are 6'5 and 6'6 but do they play that way? No. While Steve Smith is playing like he is 7 feet tall they are not using their body. That is not on Flacco. If you do not trust that target you do not throw it to them or it will result in a turnover and that is the last thing we need. Forsett said he would not want any other quarterback over Flacco and he played with Aaron Rodgers. Torrey Smith calls him elite to this day. I am surprised he has done well with what he has because if you look around the league if you take out Steve Smith the Ravens have the worst offensive weapons in the league. 

 

Okay that sounds like an excuse to me. He under threw Torrey Smith on too many touchdown to count hence all the penalty yardage. Marlon Brown and Kamar Aiken both had great years with the Ravens so your whole theory of them not getting open... I can't say I support. Plus I'm sure he threw contested catches to both of them when they did play at a high level not just when they were just wide open or got separation. He threw to Anquain Boldin and he had little to no separation on most plays. It all comes down to how much a quarterback trust his receivers and honestly Flacco has little to none! Joe Flacco was playing real life football like people played Madden. I'll throw the ball up and hope for a spectacular catch from Anquain Boldin. Believe or not that does not work for every receiver. How about a new idea lets throw the receiver open??? SO far Joe Flacco proves he can only throw to one type of receiver and the sad part is that doesn't take much talent...  You can't tell me you don't see that trend with Flacco of targeting one receiver (Derrick Mason, Anquain Boldin, Steve Smith and tightens unless he has fast receiver. The only time he ever does otherwise is in the playoffs. He regresses every regular season back to the same quarterback.The Ravens organization honestly did not do him any favors by bringing him Steve Smith (same old crutch) because he is not progressing as a quarterback. He needs to take the next step and learn how to utilize all his receivers (likes when he plays really good defenses) because I find it hard to believe that guys are not getting open for 60 minutes of football. 

[riseNConquer81]

I would say this for the receiver core that Flacco has this year. I can't completely blame them as much as I blame Flacco. He needs to get the ball there

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Its not like our receivers are missing wide open passes when given opportunity, but they will miss bad passes which I don't fault them for...

Get the ball where?

How would you know who is missing wide open passes? youve never seen ANY of these dudes wide open. They dont get open. and they cant catch in traffic, the slightest contact means an automatic drop for all these dudes. Every pass looks bad when you're throwing to bad receivers....

[Saxxin]

The run game is coming around. Play action will open things up now. The season is far from over.

[Benjamin13]

Didn't we hear the same sort of thing all off season about how these guys were ready to step up and show they were good? It hasn't happened. They are just not that good. I don't think they're as bad as people say, and I think they are still young so they should improve with reps. I think the way forward is with the TE's and the run game.

[stuckonaboat13]

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaa Givens and aiken I have faith in to be productive "number 2s". The kinda of guys you would expect to catch aroudn 500- 600 yards across from your #1 guy. As far as top threats ? no way. Waller I have high hopes for the future as a redzone threat. Brown is just running around and irrelevant to this team

[ReginaldColeman1]

It's time to figure out how to put together a game plan with the elements you're given. Hasselbeck walks in and has a man standing alone checking his text messages before receiving the TD pass.

[ratedr]

LOL this article has been written like 10 times in the past. It doesn't matter how fired up they are, they simply aren't very good. On Sunday we will be fielding the worst WR group in the league.

[ratedr]

I would say this for the receiver core that Flacco has this year. I can't completely blame them as much as I blame Flacco. He needs to get the ball there and given the receiver core for this game that is extremely tall 6'2" 6'5" 6'6" (not sure about Givens height). Hit receivers in stride, bullet passes (these contested toss up throws are not helping receivers weekly), high passes where only the receiver can make a play on the ball should have been the focus of this week in practice. Possibly to the chest of smaller receivers... Flacco has to do his part this season by stepping into throws to complete passes (the entire game not the last drive). Getting hit is apart of the game even as a quarterback. You want to help your offensive line with all these blitzes, step into throw take the hit and get the completion. Teams will respect Joe more as a quarterback if they see he is not easily rattled, or afraid throwing off his back foot which he can't do... My biggest knock is please don't throw to one receiver all game. For example it was the Steve Smith show then the Kamar Aiken show and then to say your "receiver core is not ideal." I put a lot of blame on Flacco going to the well too many times and not getting the ball to receivers more than them not being great players. Its not like our receivers are missing wide open passes when given opportunity, but they will miss bad passes which I don't fault them for... Joe if you are really about WINNING stop being a COWARD!

You basically told on yourself. If every ball has to be perfect then what are the receivers getting paid for?

 

Flacco has to be on point 100% of the time because our receivers are incapable of making plays. No quarterback can thrive in that situation because no quarterback is 100% perfect.

[Ravenshine]

Aiken has already proved himself in some clutch situations (most recently Pittsburg game) he just needs more consistency. Givens is itching to prove himself, you can just tell. I hope he does well! I hope all our receivers do well. Anything can be improved/turned around. Stats are made to be broken.

[whobilly]

Peter King..."The Worst In The League Right Now". OUCH! The truth hurts.

[Ravenshine]

Hey, there's a stat right there we can change

[jmids1975]

The funniest part of all of this is... It is the fans, many here on the board, who were touting how fantastic our wide receivers were going to be this year. Not many will admit it now. People rarely admit to being wrong. But go back and read articles about cut down day, any interest in Reggie Wayne, Butler and Waller impress, etc... and read the comments. And for the Flacco haters out there... Look what kind of numbers he is putting up with a 36 year old, retiring wide receiver and a bunch of no names, and without his blindside tackle. You can overanalyze specific plays all day long and try to extrapolate them into something bigger, but I say considering what he is working with, it is showing he is pretty good.

[Crusader]

Receivers don't throw the ball to the other team neither which make Joe tied with Peyton for 4th in interceptions. If anyone needs to step up their game now is Joe. Everyone else is coming around.

[ratedr]

Receivers don't throw the ball to the other team neither which make Joe tied with Peyton for 4th in interceptions. If anyone needs to step up their game now is Joe. Everyone else is coming around.

Lol, and who is everyone else?

The last time Joe threw a ton of picks was in 2013, when again our WR group was poor, unless you think that's a coincidence.

None of these scrubs can get separation, and when that happens Joe gets careless and starts pressing. Many analysts have said our WR is among the worst in the league. Buy maybe they're all wrong, your right, and it's just Joe. Lol.

[TrooRavenFan]

Really Flacoo "receive situation isn't ideal" but I am quite sure your receivers can sure say the the QB situation isn't either. Look across the league and there various top 5 QB's who are missing their primary targets but they manage to get it done!

[GO_Ravens]

Joe was talking about only having 4 available receivers isn't ideal not their talent. Why do people always try and turn nothing into something.

[EdBallhawkReed20]

You basically told on yourself. If every ball has to be perfect then what are the receivers getting paid for?

 

Flacco has to be on point 100% of the time because our receivers are incapable of making plays. No quarterback can thrive in that situation because no quarterback is 100% perfect.

Not true elite quarterbacks (Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Brees) are capable of throwing receivers open. Also, I didn't say he needed perfect throws. I said he needed to throw the ball where the advantage is given to the wide receiver  and not the defensive back. Your not acknowledging the mistakes or bad passes Flacco makes at quarterback. He is not stepping into the pocket to deliver passes and you sure you see that in games when being blitzed. He has to throw the ball and take the hit. It can't feel good going to the ground, but how far is he willing to go to help the team win...

[burnbigben]

If Flacco, Ngata and Rice weren't taking up most of the cap we might be able to bring someone in to help.

[Hardhitters]

Smith listed as doubtful with broken bones, he's a Damn warrior. Even though Smith likely won't play it makes me wonder about Sergio Kindle oh my bad I mean Perriman.

[EdBallhawkReed20]

Get the ball where?

How would you know who is missing wide open passes? youve never seen ANY of these dudes wide open. They dont get open. and they cant catch in traffic, the slightest contact means an automatic drop for all these dudes. Every pass looks bad when you're throwing to bad receivers....

I understand what you are saying about drops but look where Flacco places the football. Let me prove a point to you how many sideline passes that are accurate have you seen Joe throw in his career that didn't force the wideout to come back and fight for the ball. It look like Flacco was throwing to the defensive back and wideouts are playing defense. I've seen Marlon Brown jump to make high catches and come down with it. I am not saying these are the best wide receivers in the NFL, but some blame does go to the quarterback and ball placement.

[ratedr]

Not true elite quarterbacks (Rodgers, Brady, Manning, Brees) are capable of throwing receivers open. Also, I didn't say he needed perfect throws. I said he needed to throw the ball where the advantage is given to the wide receiver and not the defensive back. Your not acknowledging the mistakes or bad passes Flacco makes at quarterback. He is not stepping into the pocket to deliver passes and you sure you see that in games when being blitzed. He has to throw the ball and take the hit. It can't feel good going to the ground, but how far is he willing to go to help the team win...

LOL we saw how bad Brady looked without his main weapon Gronk. Peyton has struggled this year and that's WITH Demaryius. Brees also has some Favre-ian tendencies. The only guy you mentioned that never seems to rely on receivers to make plays is Rodgers.

Joe has made bad decisions but he's not Jesus, he can't turn the water that is the Ravens WR group into wine. Expecting otherwise is delusional.

[Purple&Black]

His recovery was slow so he got surgery. Will take a couple months to heal. Probably won't see him back until after the bye week.

Thanks for the update

[riseNConquer81]

I understand what you are saying about drops but look where Flacco places the football. Let me prove a point to you how many sideline passes that are accurate have you seen Joe throw in his career that didn't force the wideout to come back and fight for the ball. It look like Flacco was throwing to the defensive back and wideouts are playing defense. I've seen Marlon Brown jump to make high catches and come down with it. I am not saying these are the best wide receivers in the NFL, but some blame does go to the quarterback and ball placement.

i dont think you understand either the quarterback or wide reviever position, or the way ball placement works. The receiver is always supposed to come back to the ball, thats how you play the poisition. its way too late to throw the ball after a receiver finishes his route, thats a pick. You cant throw a ball directly at a reciever, that's a pick. Receivers cant wait for the ball to come to them, that's a pick.

you're blaming bad receiver play on Flacco, there's nothing wrong with his passes.

[heycuf]

All I know is that this is the best time to stand up and shine.If any of these W R's want to be recognized,it's now.Because to me it looks like they're just showing up to get paid.Now lets earn it.True,Joe isn't the most accurate but you got to fight for possession.