Lost's Big Board/Occasional Mock Draft

[PurpleCity5]

I honestly can't see Detroit finishing ahead of us in the draft order. They've got one more win already, and have games against NO, St Louis, Chicago and the Sailboats. Surely that's at least two wins there.

 

If we lose to Cleveland (and lose out), we'd theoretically have the tiebreaker over them so that'd be one fewer pick we have to worry about. Imo that leaves SD as 100% picking above us, Tennessee probably doing so, and Dallas, SF and Cleveland in a race to the bottom (possibles I guess).

 

Like I say, if SD are picking first, they're taking Tunsil. I'd put money on it. He just makes too much sense for them. Tennessee might go Stanley, but as you say they might well prefer Kim D to Bosa as a fit. I could see Cleveland going either way between Bosa and a QB tbh - Ray Farmer loves the trenches and he's not afraid to upgrade them. Bosa would be a very Jerry Jones pick (sigh). Hopefully they jag a win over Washington.

 

I agree about LT - my take is that we shouldn't shy away from upgrading Monroe if the opportunity arises through a guy being BPA, but it's not a wasted offseason by any stretch if Monroe is our guy next year. I just think Stanley and Tunsil will have better careers than Monroe, and both have a case for BPA (though at this stage I'm leaning Bosa, but I've been fluctuating for a while over who I like).

 

So yeah, I think Tunsil is off the board by the time we pick, but Bosa may or may not be there. A lot depends on this weekend's result.

Yeah I think Detroit finishes the season strong, granted they don't make the playoffs but they'll get wins against St.Louis and San Fran IMO. I think they also might take down New Orleans as well. I don't see us finishing better than them.

 

I think we finish in the top 5, right dab at 5. 

[52liveforever]

_{I like this concept here is my big board for top 5 for most positions of need and where they rank and rd I would take them at some in the 1st would only be taken via trading down or up.}

 

_C

_{18. Nick Martin-Notre Dame (rd2/3)}

_{27. Jack Allen-Michigan State(rd5)}

_{32. Evan Boehm-Missouri(rd5/6)}

_{36. Mike Matthews-Texas A&M(rd 6/7)}

 

_CB

_{3. Vernon Hargreaves-Florida(rd1)}

_{7. Tre'Davious White-LSU(rd1/2)}

_{10. Kendall Fuller-Virginia Tech(rd2/3)}

_{21. William Jackson-Houston(rd3)}

_{24. William Likely-Maryland(rd4)}

 

_FS

_{4. Jalen Ramsey-Florida State(rd1)}

_{13. Darain Thompson-Boise State(rd2)}

_{20. Jalen Mills-LSU(2/3)}

_{22. Deon Bush-Miami(rd4)}

_{31. Tanner Mcevoy-Winsconsin(rd6)}

 

_ILB

_{9. Myles Jack-UCLA(rd1)}

_{23. Cassanova Mckinzy-Auburn(rd4)}

_{26. Travis Feeney-Washington(rd5)}

_{33. Luke Rhodes-William & Mary(rd6)}

_{35. James Burgess-Louisville(rd7)}

 

_OLB

_{1. Joey Bosa-Ohio State(rd1)}

_{5. Shaq Lawson-Clemson(rd1)}

_{8. Emmanual Ogabh-Oklahoma State(rd1/2)}

_{16. Carl Nassib-Penn State(rd2/3)}

_{28. Kyler Fackrel-Utah State(rd5)}

 

_OT

_{2. Laremy Tunsil-Ole Miss(rd1)}

_{6. Taylor Decker-Ohio State(rd1)}

_{15. Jason Spriggs-Indiana(rd2/3)}

_{25. Tyler Marz-Winsconsin(rd4)}

_{30. Jordan Swindle-Kentucky(rd6)}

 

_QB

_{29. Kevin Hogan-Stanford(rd5/6)}

_{34. Jeff Driskel-Louisiana Tech(rd6)}

_{37. Brandon Allen-Arkansas(rd7)}

 

_WR

_{11. Cory Coleman-Baylor(rd1/2)}

_{12. Josh Doctson-TCU(rd1/2)}

_{14. Tyler Boyd-Pittsburg(rd2)}

_{17. Pharoh Cooper-South Carolina(rd2)}

_{19. Sterling Shepard-Oklahoma(rd3)}

[JoeyFlex5]

so treadwell isnt in your top 5 receivers? stanley isnt in your top 5 OTs? 

[GrimCoconut]

I appreciate your effort but this post hurts my head. I'm not even being funny. I've probably been at the computer screen too long.

Edited November 30, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[52liveforever]

so treadwell isnt in your top 5 receivers? stanley isnt in your top 5 OTs?

I don't like Treadwell and Stanley I honestly haven't done enough looking at him to throw him in there yet. We have a long time until the draft so all this is bound to change. Don't see my view on Treadwell changing though.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I appreciate your effort but this post hurts my head. I'm not even being funny. I've probably been at the computer screen too long.

In that boat. I've been writing a report all day. Page 17 of like 32 maybe.

[January J]

I don't like Treadwell and Stanley I honestly haven't done enough looking at him to throw him in there yet. We have a long time until the draft so all this is bound to change. Don't see my view on Treadwell changing though.

that's pretty strange for him to not even be on your list. So even if either of them dropped to the bottom of the 2nd/ early 3rd you'd still pass?

[JoeyFlex5]

I don't like Treadwell and Stanley I honestly haven't done enough looking at him to throw him in there yet. We have a long time until the draft so all this is bound to change. Don't see my view on Treadwell changing though.

well we all have our opinions, but having coleman as your 1, with shepard and cooper in your top 5, all ahead of treadwell, is gonna be an unpopular opinion, and for good reason.  

 

and you gotta put personal feeling aside at some point, stanley is the 2nd best OT in this draft and the drop off after stanley is a big one. to leave him out of the top 5 completely is quite strange

Edited November 30, 2015 by JoeyFlex5

[52liveforever]

that's pretty strange for him to not even be on your list. So even if either of them dropped to the bottom of the 2nd/ early 3rd you'd still pass?

I just did a little looking at Stanley(still not a lot), but yeah him I would grab in the 2nd or third. Treadwell there would have to be none of those 5 guys there for me to grab him.

[52liveforever]

well we all have our opinions, but having coleman as your 1, with shepard and cooper in your top 5, all ahead of treadwell, is gonna be an unpopular opinion, and for good reason.

and you gotta put personal feeling aside at some point, stanley is the 2nd best OT in this draft and the drop off after stanley is a big one. to leave him out of the top 5 completely is quite strange

I don't have any personal feelings about it. I just really don't think Treadwell is all that. I think there are a lot of wide receivers in this draft better than him. I will have no problem being wrong if we draft him and he kills it.

[JoeyFlex5]

I don't have any personal feelings about it. I just really don't think Treadwell is all that. I think there are a lot of wide receivers in this draft better than him. I will have no problem being wrong if we draft him and he kills it.

its just strange to see that list, i agree that treadwell isnt "all that" and this is a very weak top end wr class, but that doesnt mean hes out of the top 5, the kid is physical, athletic, and plays sharp and has great ball skills, he really reminds me of dez bryant. and stanley is the best pass blocking OT in a long time, he may be average in the run game but he will keep a clean pocket as well as any OT in the draft. its your board and i wont tell you your opinions are wrong but those 2 just really stand out to me lol

[52liveforever]

its just strange to see that list, i agree that treadwell isnt "all that" and this is a very weak top end wr class, but that doesnt mean hes out of the top 5, the kid is physical, athletic, and plays sharp and has great ball skills, he really reminds me of dez bryant. and stanley is the best pass blocking OT in a long time, he may be average in the run game but he will keep a clean pocket as well as any OT in the draft. its your board and i wont tell you your opinions are wrong but those 2 just really stand out to me lol

Well I haven't gotten any GM job offers so any assessment of my list is fair.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Alright.... Let's do this. This should be my last one until the combine ends. I'm pretty firm. 

 

 

Round One: Ronnie Stanley OT

• Joey Bosa
• Larmey Tunsil
• Ronnie Stanley

One of them will be in a Ravens uni and quite frankly, I'd love to have all three. Stanley is most likely to fall which I am very okay with. He's technically sound, has quick feet, is an exception pass blocker, high IQ, can handle speed and power rushers. He doesn't have quite the mean streak that Tunsil has, but he's a different kind of bully on the oline. One that doesn't have to knock you on your butt. He simply grabs on to you, and he knows he's won. There's nothing the defender can do about it. Not that he won't knock you on the ground, but he doesn't have to. That's how sound he is. 

 

I'd be equally happy with Tunsil or Stanley. I think both are smart football players that play like Ravens. 

 

Round Two: Yannick Ngokoue OLB

You knew this was coming. This man not only plays like a Raven, but is straight up tailor made for the defense. "He's the best player on Maryland which is easy"... Yes. But at the same time, he's played well against big competition. Taylor Decker, Brandon Scherff, Jack Conklin. He's played well against all of them and has a hell of a motor. He has some stuff to work on, but he's got pass rushing talent, and run stopping talent. He was born to be here and I'm damn sure of it.

 

Round Three: Eddie Jackson Safety

 

I refuse to bet against trends. Jackson started out his career in Alabama as a Cb but then was converted to FS. And he appears to have all the necessary skills on one. Some of his interceptions are him just reading the QB's eyes routinely. He appears to have skill in coverage despite his size and is a willing tackler, though he does need to bulk up. Listen, if Matt Elam could actually cover worth a damn, he'd be a decent safety. I'll take that over what we have with him right now. 

 

Round Four: Sterling Shepard WR

 

I think we trade up for this pick. Make no mistake with his height and weight. Sterling Shepard can play football. He has reliable hands, can run good routes, and is good after the catch. He's not a typical Trestman WR but is a very good foil to Perriman. He's a sleeper in my eyes but can easily hold his own vs other WRs in the draft. 

Edited December 15, 2015 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[ravefan52]

I'd be happy with Stanley I just hate the idea of passing of Hargreaves (assuming he's there and Bosa & Tunsil are gone). But if we don't have a LT then it makes sense. I haven't studied Jackson, but from live games I like what I've seen. I love Shepard. I like him more than a lot of those WR's in that 3rd roundish range.

[nishadrahman13]

Yannick plays big time against big time competition. The things that worry me about him are missing some tackles and most importantly, his complete lack of a bull rush. He wins with his hands and quickness, but he gets stopped cold any time he attempts a straight bull rush. I am optimistic that an NFL weight room can add this to his repertoire, and that would push him deep into steal status at the top of the 2nd.

[PurpleCity5]

I'd be happy with Stanley I just hate the idea of passing of Hargreaves (assuming he's there and Bosa & Tunsil are gone). But if we don't have a LT then it makes sense. I haven't studied Jackson, but from live games I like what I've seen. I love Shepard. I like him more than a lot of those WR's in that 3rd roundish range.

If we do get Stanley then I want a WR round 2. My thing is to continue to build on the offense. 

[allblackraven]

If we do get Stanley then I want a WR round 2. My thing is to continue to build on the offense. 

I don't think we'll draft receiver early after spending 1st on one last year. Our defense needs more playmakers than our offense.

[JoeyFlex5]

If we do get Stanley then I want a WR round 2. My thing is to continue to build on the offense.

I too want to see us stack one side in the first 2 rounds. Instead of trying to add a piece to each side, I wanna fill 2 big holes on one side in one motion, hopefully fixing that side of the ball and letting us key in on the other side throughout the rest of the off-season.

[usmccharles]

I too want to see us stack one side in the first 2 rounds. Instead of trying to add a piece to each side, I wanna fill 2 big holes on one side in one motion, hopefully fixing that side of the ball and letting us key in on the other side throughout the rest of the off-season.

OT/WR would be ideal on the offense side

WR/OT if we trade back maybe?

 

CB/Pass Rusher

Pass rusher/ CB?

[January J]

Alright.... Let's do this. This should be my last one until the combine ends. I'm pretty firm. 

 

 

Round One: Ronnie Stanley OT

• Joey Bosa
• Larmey Tunsil
• Ronnie Stanley

One of them will be in a Ravens uni and quite frankly, I'd love to have all three. Stanley is most likely to fall which I am very okay with. He's technically sound, has quick feet, is an exception pass blocker, high IQ, can handle speed and power rushers. He doesn't have quite the mean streak that Tunsil has, but he's a different kind of bully on the oline. One that doesn't have to knock you on your butt. He simply grabs on to you, and he knows he's won. There's nothing the defender can do about it. Not that he won't knock you on the ground, but he doesn't have to. That's how sound he is. 

 

I'd be equally happy with Tunsil or Stanley. I think both are smart football players that play like Ravens. 

 

Round Two: Yannick Ngokoue OLB

You knew this was coming. This man not only plays like a Raven, but is straight up tailor made for the defense. "He's the best player on Maryland which is easy"... Yes. But at the same time, he's played well against big competition. Taylor Decker, Brandon Scherff, Jack Conklin. He's played well against all of them and has a hell of a motor. He has some stuff to work on, but he's got pass rushing talent, and run stopping talent. He was born to be here and I'm damn sure of it.

 

Round Three: Eddie Jackson Safety

 

I refuse to bet against trends. Jackson started out his career in Alabama as a Cb but then was converted to FS. And he appears to have all the necessary skills on one. Some of his interceptions are him just reading the QB's eyes routinely. He appears to have skill in coverage despite his size and is a willing tackler, though he does need to bulk up. Listen, if Matt Elam could actually cover worth a damn, he'd be a decent safety. I'll take that over what we have with him right now. 

 

Round Four: Sterling Shepard WR

 

I think we trade up for this pick. Make no mistake with his height and weight. Sterling Shepard can play football. He has reliable hands, can run good routes, and is good after the catch. He's not a typical Trestman WR but is a very good foil to Perriman. He's a sleeper in my eyes but can easily hold his own vs other WRs in the draft.

if the first 4 rounds panned out this way I would probably cry.

Tears of joy.

[PurpleCity5]

I don't think we'll draft receiver early after spending 1st on one last year. Our defense needs more playmakers than our offense.

I'm thinking we use FA to rebuild the defense while we focus on the offense in the draft. We need a WR badly honestly, we need a play-maker at that position as well. Even though we spent a 1st on a WR in last years draft, what exactly did we get him? We have options at FS, I think that allows us to sign a CB and a OLB.

[PurpleCity5]

I too want to see us stack one side in the first 2 rounds. Instead of trying to add a piece to each side, I wanna fill 2 big holes on one side in one motion, hopefully fixing that side of the ball and letting us key in on the other side throughout the rest of the off-season.

That's what I'm thinking, we'll have to be cheap this off-season on defense with the limited cap. I'm hoping the defense we field will at least be respectable and decent. It does not have to be great or elite as long as our offense can put up points and keep them off the field. A defense will always be good if they are not on the field much. 

[January J]

That's what I'm thinking, we'll have to be cheap this off-season on defense with the limited cap. I'm hoping the defense we field will at least be respectable and decent. It does not have to be great or elite as long as our offense can put up points and keep them off the field. A defense will always be good if they are not on the field much.

I'd rather do it the other way around and focus more on feilding a strong defense. I trust flacco to put up enough points to win regardless.it was the defense that wasn't able to hold the leads this year- and we had a top 10 offense despite having almost any weapons whatsoever.

[Clmraven]

I'd rather do it the other way around and focus more on feilding a strong defense. I trust flacco to put up enough points to win regardless.it was the defense that wasn't able to hold the leads this year- and we had a top 10 offense despite having almost any weapons whatsoever.

I'm with you on building the defense more, the only thing we really need to work on offense wise is red zone IMO, there's only a few players that I can think of this early in the process (obviously a lot changes) that I'd take in the second on offense and that'd be one of the top receivers, Zeke Elliott or if Jack Conklin somehow fell to the second

[allblackraven]

I'm thinking we use FA to rebuild the defense while we focus on the offense in the draft. We need a WR badly honestly, we need a play-maker at that position as well. Even though we spent a 1st on a WR in last years draft, what exactly did we get him? We have options at FS, I think that allows us to sign a CB and a OLB.

Well, we didn't get anything but it's not like he played miserable. One injury doesn't make a bust of 1st rounder.

[PurpleCity5]

I'd rather do it the other way around and focus more on feilding a strong defense. I trust flacco to put up enough points to win regardless.it was the defense that wasn't able to hold the leads this year- and we had a top 10 offense despite having almost any weapons whatsoever.

The defense surely was not respectable and decent this year. I do think if they were we would have held on to our leads. I feel that if our offense is elite, then we can move the ball against anybody. Look at some of the best teams in the league(Greenbay, New England, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh...ect) The elite group of teams field elite offenses and good/decent defenses. 

 

With an elite offense, we can move the ball virtually against anyone including Denver and would not have had as much trouble as we did. 

 

I also like to point out that an good offense, the one we have had last year hits a road block from time-time and tends to fall apart. There are plenty of games out there in which our offense fell into an unnecessary slump. I also feel like there are too many advantages to an elite offense. Now, there are flags for everything. You can't be too touchy with a WR or do much, if you got a premier WR out there. 

 

Also, we're much closer to an elite offense than an elite defense. We have the pieces on offense with the OL and a two WR in Perriman and Aiken, one has proven he can play, the other just needs to get on the field. After that we just need a guy who can be a play-maker at WR, that is why I really like Boyd in the 2nd. 

[PurpleCity5]

Well, we didn't get anything but it's not like he played miserable. One injury doesn't make a bust of 1st rounder.

I'm definitely not declaring him as a bust but I don't think Perriman is a good enough of a reason to not select a WR early. We just don't know who he is. Harbaugh said it himself he wants to at least get 4 games out of him in order to evaluate him. Without that, we don't know how good he will be. He could be Julio Jones, or Daryius Hayward Bey, it's just better off to take the safe route is what I'm saying, rather than take the risk and bet on Perriman, 

[JoeyFlex5]

OT/WR would be ideal on the offense side

WR/OT if we trade back maybe?

CB/Pass Rusher

Pass rusher/ CB?

I'd be ok with 2 straight pass rushers if they were bpa, or 2 dbs like hargreaves or Ramsey + fuller or Alexander if he falls, or maybe Darian Thompson. I think we would be better off building one strong side and making the other side competent. Edited December 18, 2015 by JoeyFlex5

[BSHU_Miami]

I'll double up on pass rushers or bosa and a ILB since we have average coverage linebackers. DB's aren't nothing without pass a rush. and we cant rely on sizzle being an every down LB after an achilles injury.  

[January J]

The defense surely was not respectable and decent this year. I do think if they were we would have held on to our leads. I feel that if our offense is elite, then we can move the ball against anybody. Look at some of the best teams in the league(Greenbay, New England, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh...ect) The elite group of teams field elite offenses and good/decent defenses. 

 

With an elite offense, we can move the ball virtually against anyone including Denver and would not have had as much trouble as we did. 

 

I also like to point out that an good offense, the one we have had last year hits a road block from time-time and tends to fall apart. There are plenty of games out there in which our offense fell into an unnecessary slump. I also feel like there are too many advantages to an elite offense. Now, there are flags for everything. You can't be too touchy with a WR or do much, if you got a premier WR out there. 

 

Also, we're much closer to an elite offense than an elite defense. We have the pieces on offense with the OL and a two WR in Perriman and Aiken, one has proven he can play, the other just needs to get on the field. After that we just need a guy who can be a play-maker at WR, that is why I really like Boyd in the 2nd.

thats true too but look at teams like Denver and Kansas City. Their offenses have been fairly mediocre at best and their defenses have pretty much won or kept them in every single game. I agree were not that far off on offense..but contrary to what many believe we're not that far off on defense either. With a healthy Terrell Suggs the only thing we really need is to add another upper tier pass rusher.. A disciplined corner or safety ( depending on what we do with webby) and get our linebackers to do a little better in coverage. we got some work to do but that's not too tall of an order IMO.