Ravens Make the Playoffs? (Merged)

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

This team is falling apart faster than a card house.

The Defense is mismanaged and predictable, easily beaten like a drum on a regular basis, cant make a 4th quarter stop to save the season, they decided to scrap any decent weapons Joe had built a trust with, Boldin & Torre, anybody that had a voice in the locker room other than Harbaugh is gone, they have missed in the first 2 rounds of the draft 4 of the last 5 years starting with Kindle, and the guys they chose to re-sign to big contracts Rice, Webb, have added to our misery, as the cap hell we are in allows Home grown Ravens to walk, while we sign guys like Monroe who gives you 50% when he is actually on the field, call it selective blocking, then you have no choice to scavenge underperforming previously cut players to bandaid. Welcome to 2015/16

[The Mom Gene]

But yeah... I think it's time.

 

You watch what happens now... no pressure... they'll play more relaxed.

 

Have you seen today's injury report???  And yet we wonder why we are bad...

 

Webb... Davis... Dumervil... Justin Forsett:  add that to our other guys??????  What the heck do we expect?

[balfan23]

AFC is pretty weak. Someone said 8-8 may be good enough to get the #6 spot, but I think this may be another year a 7-9 team may get in. Of course, Ravens have to win 6 more games to get to get to 7-9, and that's probably not going to happen.

I don't think a 7-9 team ever got in as a wild card. That has only been based on the good fortune of a team being in an abysmal division. I don't think 7-9 is going to win the AFC North this year. 

 

There have been 8-8 teams to make the WC. It has happened a handful of times since its inception.

 

But as you say, it is hard to envision this team winning 6 more games, let alone 7 to get to .500. They appear to have gone off the rails, so you can't point to any games on their schedule and feel good about it. 

[The Raven]

Who knows? Remember in 2009 when the Broncos started 6-0 and then missed the playoffs? Anything can happen.

 

We've gotta right the ship quick and get a bit of luck first.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Look at all the contenders for the last wildcard spot.   Yes, we have a chance.   It looks like 8-8 will get your there.   If the bottom contenders keeps falling hard, maybe even a 7-9.   

No matter what we need to win vs 9ers.   Just for the sake of sanity, i do not want to go 1-5.   ONE AND 5 LOSSES.  Never.   Not Ravens.   Do not let it happen!!

[Cillmatic]

Are we even sure "we" WANT to make the playoffs? Seems like it would just screw us up by sending our draft picks back.

[balfan23]

But yeah... I think it's time.

 

You watch what happens now... no pressure... they'll play more relaxed.

 

Have you seen today's injury report???  And yet we wonder why we are bad...

 

Webb... Davis... Dumervil... Justin Forsett:  add that to our other guys??????  What the heck do we expect?

1) To still find a way to not allow 3 TDs and a game winning FG on the Browns final 5 possessions ...

2) to not allow the McCown led Browns to rack up a franchise record number of yards in our building. 

 

Actually, Pettine gave us a break. Had he used a time out we'd have lost in regulation. We couldn't stop them, they just ran out of time. 

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

I got negged when I predicted this team to be 3-5 after the first 8, I am sorry to say, if we continue to not be able to stop anybody in the 4th quarter, It may be worse than that. We are a couple missed fg's from being 0-5. Its time somebody elses philosophy or schemes get a crack at our defense. I have seen a lot of football over the years, and this is one of the worst schemed defenses I have ever seen, weak and predictable, underutilizing the players strengths. You youngins need to open your youtube, and see if there is any old film on the 1985 Bears out there, even any Ravens team from 1998 until Mattison got here. Even (I hate saying this) watch any Squeeler defenses while LeBeau was their DC, if you want to see what a real defense looks like. It can be done with whoever we suit up. If anybody blames it on injuries, then you are sadly mistaken and an apologist. Pees has to go.

[The Mom Gene]

1) To still find a way to not allow 3 TDs and a game winning FG on the Browns final 5 possessions ...

2) to not allow the McCown led Browns to rack up a franchise record number of yards in our building. 

 

Actually, Pettine gave us a break. Had he used a time out we'd have lost in regulation. We couldn't stop them, they just ran out of time. 

Oh, I know...  I just get weary when folks want to put this on one guy is ridiculous...  That's my point.

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Our team is consistently putting up enough points to win. Pees is hindering us with his Defensive Scheme. He has to go. Next COACH up!

[K-Dog]

I said when we have to say it. Fans only say it when they are desperate. Desperate teams shouldn't make the playoffs.

Alright gnat strainer......

[PurpleCity5]

If we were to take the 6th spot, which would be a miracle, then you'll need to pretty much win the rest of your home games. Really sad to see us drop this one against Cleveland.

[K-Dog]

Are we even sure "we" WANT to make the playoffs? Seems like it would just screw us up by sending our draft picks back.

I do.

[GrimCoconut]

I absolutely want to make the playoffs. Even if we get bounced in the first round, I'd rather be there than not. 

[Dfence4champs2052]

It's the NFL...every team has injuries....no excuse period. That's why you bring in players that can contribute. When you bring in trash....well you get caught when your pants down.

[Dfence4champs2052]

Still.....457 plus yards....unbelievable. Our SB winning MVP has never even put that number up. WE ARE ABYSMAL......

[balfan23]

Are we even sure "we" WANT to make the playoffs? Seems like it would just screw us up by sending our draft picks back.

Some people were saying this last year. Then we got in and darn near made a serious run. 

 

Yes, I always want to be in the playoffs. Always. 

[ratedr]

If we make the playoffs that means we went like 9-2 in our next 11. I'd be fine with it because that would mean we were playing well.

 

But that won't happen, because this team isn't very good.

Edited October 12, 2015 by ratedr

[flynismo]

ou youngins need to open your youtube, and see if there is any old film on the 1985 Bears out there, even any Ravens team from 1998 until Mattison got here. Even (I hate saying this) watch any Squeeler defenses while LeBeau was their DC, if you want to see what a real defense looks like. It can be done with whoever we suit up. If anybody blames it on injuries, then you are sadly mistaken and an apologist. Pees has to go.

2007 season ring any bells? Was that injuries, or was it poor scheming by Ryan?

[frozen joe flacco fan]

I got negged when I predicted this team to be 3-5 after the first 8, I am sorry to say, if we continue to not be able to stop anybody in the 4th quarter, It may be worse than that. We are a couple missed fg's from being 0-5. Its time somebody elses philosophy or schemes get a crack at our defense. I have seen a lot of football over the years, and this is one of the worst schemed defenses I have ever seen, weak and predictable, underutilizing the players strengths. You youngins need to open your youtube, and see if there is any old film on the 1985 Bears out there, even any Ravens team from 1998 until Mattison got here. Even (I hate saying this) watch any Squeeler defenses while LeBeau was their DC, if you want to see what a real defense looks like. It can be done with whoever we suit up. If anybody blames it on injuries, then you are sadly mistaken and an apologist. Pees has to go.

 

Yeah! It was Pees' fault all right! Did you even watch the game? We had no answer for a TE I've never heard of until today and the Brownies' TD catch at the end zone was just one of many poorly contested plays by two of our junior varsity secondary players. Their top three receivers were under 6' tall by a lot. Our secondary is terrible and its all Dean's fault, right? What about people lined up offsides in the neutral zone three times? Is that his fault or is it just plain stupidity? I don't know; you tell me!!!! Our highly touted secondary led by Jimmy Smith gave up 457 yards of passing to Josh Who?  Isn't it ironic that he was formerly coached by Marc Trestman who probably helped Dean devise the scheme to shut him down? Oh well, just go on with your silly "Pees has to go" dillusion. The only adjustment I would make is to bring Coach Pees down onto the field where he can look his players in the eyes when they come off the field after making a stupid, bone-head play or failing to execute his scheme properly. In all fairness, this group of defenders is woefully inadequate. The two most important team statistics besides wins are takeaway/turnover ratio and point differential. Neither of these stats are good for this team. We've given up 137 points in 5 games versus 165 points in 16 games in 2000. This has to do with poor execution and undisciplined personnel. As far as I'm concerned, Coach Harbaugh can direct Coach Pees to coach from the sidelines when and if he chooses and he (Harbaugh) can fine players for stupid penalties like the late hit that erased an interception by Webb.

Edited October 12, 2015 by frozen joe flacco fan

[AsianRice]

Pees got to go....defense r falling apart and the man behind it needs to go...don't blame the players when the coach is the one responsible for scheme, play calling, and training. Best example is Jim Harbaugh who can literally win with any team. So yes coach makes a big difference, whole lots of difference.....

John needs to make a move now if he wants us to have a shot at wildcard spot.....

[52520Andrew]

We aren't making the playoffs this year, the sooner you come to accept that, the easier it will be

[beanfigger]

I just want to see what we look like when (if) we ever get a fully healthy team. At this point, we've probably dug ourselves in too big of a hole, but it'll still make me feel better if we turn it on at some point and go out like a real team. We don't need a top five pick, just top twenty. Who are our last two top 20 picks? Yeah, that's good enough. I'm still hoping for a miracle 9-7.

[FoxRox75]

Maybe next year. As far as I'm concerned losing to Cleveland at home dashes any remote hopes of that. If the Steelers had had a decent kicker October 1 we'd be 0-5.

[Shammy]

John needs to make a move now if he wants us to have a shot at wildcard spot.....

 

he can go too as far as im concerned , Never was really a great coach in my eyes he just became the coach of a good team with a great organization and personnel and its been showing even before  the superbowl run  but now more vividly and people are either waking up and smelling the coffee or no longer affraid to admit it , he hasnt done much without  the lewises the reeds suggs boldins masons etc

[Raving_Heathen]

But as you say, it is hard to envision this team winning 6 more games, let alone 7 to get to .500. They appear to have gone off the rails, so you can't point to any games on their schedule and feel good about it. 

 

I literally don't see it, no matter how hard I try:

 

@Niners -- 50/50

@Cards -- if we don't get blown out, it'll be a miracle... seriously

Chargers -- this team has our number

Jags -- ok... W

Rams -- with Foles at the helm, we have a chance... but that D tho

@Browns -- 50/50

@Fins -- 50/50

Hawks -- likely another home L

Chiefs-- 50/50

Steelers -- L with a healthy Roethlisberger

@Bengals -- L

 

So if you include the Rams game, I see 6 winnable games, but I'm sure the Ravens will lose more than their fair share of those 50/50 games since they can't even beat the Browns at M&T in a must-win.

[RaineV1]

Even with Foles at QB, I can't see the Ravens beating the Rams. If McCown can pick apart the defense then Foles definitely can, and the Ravens won't be winning any high scoring game against that defense.

[January J]

Yeah sadly it's starting to look like another 8-8 season AT BEST. If we lose even 2 out of the next 5 we should pack it in and shoot for a high draft position. I'm officially done defending this team bc it does nothing but continue to make me look stupid. Funny thing is we could be 4-1 and the one game we actually won we also deserved to lose. We've had the lead in the last 20 minutes in every game so far I believe. This defense is .... Fill In the blank with whatever curse words you so choose.

[jimmypowder]

I literally don't see it, no matter how hard I try:

 

@Niners -- 50/50

@Cards -- if we don't get blown out, it'll be a miracle... seriously

Chargers -- this team has our number

Jags -- ok... W

Rams -- with Foles at the helm, we have a chance... but that D tho

@Browns -- 50/50

@Fins -- 50/50

Hawks -- likely another home L

Chiefs-- 50/50

Steelers -- L with a healthy Roethlisberger

@Bengals -- L

 

So if you include the Rams game, I see 6 winnable games, but I'm sure the Ravens will lose more than their fair share of those 50/50 games since they can't even beat the Browns at M&T in a must-win.

about 4-12 as I see it. 

[balfan23]

Yeah sadly it's starting to look like another 8-8 season AT BEST. If we lose even 2 out of the next 5 we should pack it in and shoot for a high draft position. I'm officially done defending this team bc it does nothing but continue to make me look stupid. Funny thing is we could be 4-1 and the one game we actually won we also deserved to lose. We've had the lead in the last 20 minutes in every game so far I believe. This defense is .... Fill In the blank with whatever curse words you so choose.

I know this is going to be a prevailing sentiment among fans, but I couldn't disagree more and it is going to be a common theme in my posts from here on out. "Packing it in" is never a good approach. Teaching young players how to give up and lose cannot be a part of the lesson plan. 

 

If we wanted to deal a vet or two to get some picks ... that's one thing (but with SSS hurt, I don't know that we have anyone that is worth dealing). You play to win the game ... period. Nothing less than 100% effort must be demanded. Clean up this self-destructive, undisciplined play NOW. Sit anyone that isn't performing, no matter what their salary is and play guys that play like they want to win. 

 

If we do those things - and lose ... fine. Then we get the draft pick we get. Otherwise, taking a dive to get a high pick sets us up for years of turmoil, rather than what could be just a bump in the road.