Ravens Make the Playoffs? (Merged)

[ellicottraven]

Joe Flacco is currently 3rd is passing attempts so far this season. Not a recipe for success, especially considering our situation at WR.

That needs to change. Since 2008, pretty much every season we've passed the ball about 55% of the time or less.

The one year we were above 60% passing plays... Can you guess? 2013 of course. Right now were at about 61%.

The Browns are dead last in YPG allowed, 31st in rushing yards allowed and 31st in yards per carry allowed.

Pound the rock early and often. Let the Olineman maul and be aggressive so they can get into a groove. Then kill em with play action.

This team needs offensive balance to be successful especially as currently constructed. We NEED to establish the run and commit to it even if we are down early. Trestman are you listening?

There is a couple of things I would like to bring to your attention. First, we've been playing from behind quite a bit in these first 4 games. What does that force us to do more - pass. Second, our run game has been stymied for the first 3 games by poor offensive line play. What does that force us to do if put in enough 3rd and long situations - pass. 

 

Lastly, we are only 4 games into the season, and I believe as the O-line stabilizes with Monroe back, our run game will get going and the passing to run ratios will reduce. I believe it is just a stat that one can't read too much into at this point.

[OldToby]

I think the steeler game was a well needed confidence booster. The Defense did let Bell run for 100+ yards but i think the gameplan was to shutdown Brown(which they did). At one point it looked like another lost game but we ended up seeing a couple impressive plays from Kamar and Waller to keep us in the game. Bottom line if our OLine plays more consistantly, opens up the run game, i think our whole team will benefit and play with more confidence. Has to start in the trenches.

[Winchester]

I agree getting Monroe back is key to not only a better online but a dominant online which will tilt the whole offense to scoring more points. I have said all along our dominant online will help make the WRs better but without the left tackle the line must compensate. And it hurts chemistry and makes the whole line look bad. That is why I like marqise Lee. He will not hurt the cap, he will not cost a very significant pick. And if he can stay healthy he will be a great WR for the ravens. I know most don't agree but my opinion, they should have drafted Randy Gregory. Explosive speed rushers are hard to find. I know Gregory and Marqise wear buyer beware tags but they also have talent that can not be easily replaced. Talent that is necessary to win the championship. If you want to date the hottest girls, you have to sport the 6 pack. Trying to win the Superbowl without the necessary assets is like walking up to the prettiest girl on the beach with a beer belly and thinking you will convince her you are what is best for her. It is very unlikely to work out like you want.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

There is a couple of things I would like to bring to your attention. First, we've been playing from behind quite a bit in these first 4 games. What does that force us to do more - pass. Second, our run game has been stymied for the first 3 games by poor offensive line play. What does that force us to do if put in enough 3rd and long situations - pass.

Lastly, we are only 4 games into the season, and I believe as the O-line stabilizes with Monroe back, our run game will get going and the passing to run ratios will reduce. I believe it is just a stat that one can't read too much into at this point.

I'll pull out the quarter splits, but it's hovered around 60% even in the 1st half of games, even before we were really down.

Yes the offensive line play has been poor - but that goes for pass protection as well.

As we saw in Pitt, committing to the run even when we were down and it had been stymied for much of the game allowed it to get going and sparked the come back.

I'm aware of everything you said - but it doesn't change anything. We've abandoned the run far too early.

[ellicottraven]

I'll pull out the quarter splits, but it's hovered around 60% even in the 1st half of games, even before we were really down.

Yes the offensive line play has been poor - but that goes for pass protection as well.

As we saw in Pitt, committing to the run even when we were down and it had been stymied for much of the game allowed it to get going and sparked the come back.

I'm aware of everything you said - but it doesn't change anything. We've abandoned the run far too early.

I'm not arguing with your point of view. All I'm saying is now that the Ravens have got their run game going in Pittsburgh, the run pass ration will start to shift in favor of a more manageable pass to run ratio and will fall in line by season's end I believe. I don't think it has as much to do with Trestman as it has to do with how we've put ourselves behind in most games. We really have no choice but to speed up the game and one way to do that is pass more.

[JEEPercreepermd]

It's possible that the Ravens CAN male the playoffs. Will they? Remains to be seen. .

Right now, we have probably the least talented Receiving corps in the NFL, no pass rush and some questionable play at safety and nickle. .

There are ton of IF's.

[January J]

I agree getting Monroe back is key to not only a better online but a dominant online which will tilt the whole offense to scoring more points. I have said all along our dominant online will help make the WRs better but without the left tackle the line must compensate. And it hurts chemistry and makes the whole line look bad. That is why I like marqise Lee. He will not hurt the cap, he will not cost a very significant pick. And if he can stay healthy he will be a great WR for the ravens. I know most don't agree but my opinion, they should have drafted Randy Gregory. Explosive speed rushers are hard to find. I know Gregory and Marqise wear buyer beware tags but they also have talent that can not be easily replaced. Talent that is necessary to win the championship. If you want to date the hottest girls, you have to sport the 6 pack. Trying to win the Superbowl without the necessary assets is like walking up to the prettiest girl on the beach with a beer belly and thinking you will convince her you are what is best for her. It is very unlikely to work out like you want.

we hear you buddy.

[Bandwagon]

Ravens will make the what??????

[Cillmatic]

This is what blind optimism produces

[baltimorefan328]

Ravens will make the what??????

first overall pick

[GrimCoconut]

It's possible, but speaking realistically, I can't see it anymore. I'm not pessimistic at all, but this team has too much to overcome. Too many key injuries, bad execution, poor calls, and (most importantly) a complete lack of discipline leading to an absurd amount of penalties.

[Inqui]

It's possible, but speaking realistically, I can't see it anymore. I'm not pessimistic at all, but this team has too much to overcome. Too many key injuries, bad execution, poor calls, and (most importantly) a complete lack of discipline leading to an absurd amount of penalties.

That Babin penalty after we'd stopped them was just heart-breaking.

[Allenlh]

Babin made at least two costly mistakes, too many penalities...  No wonder he was available...

 

I guess I've come to realize, I've never had to watch a Ravens team without at least one of three: Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, or Terrell Suggs...  No leadership/fire on defense any more from what I can tell. Costly penalties and no accountability when you make costly mistakes. 

 

Figures this was the first/one year I splurged and got Sunday Ticket so I can watch the Ravens (since I no longer live in MD). Sigh.... 

[Moderator 3]

Post game analysis in the post game thread, please.

[phluux]

Love keeping posts like these near the top.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

This team just isn't quite good enough to win the close games this season.

Starts with the FO decisions and the coaching, especially on defense.

But the players keep blowing golden opportunities too--and those penalties...

Of course, the injuries don't help matters.

 

This is not a Ravens team that knows how to play like a Raven.

Forget playoffs. This team might win 5 games this year.

 

Bright side: we may finally get that top 5 draft pick.

[JoeyFlex5]

told you, this secondary will never allow us into the playoffs. teams always stress balance in the play calling, but when you face the ravens, throw the ball 60  times and you win by default, 

[curtis0360]

i was wrong it hurts to say, but i am counting this team out now. 

[ratedr]

Time to close this thread.

[SomeCreepinaVan]

Not only are we not making the playoffs, but were going to get a top 5 pick!

[K-Dog]

It's possible, but speaking realistically, I can't see it anymore. I'm not pessimistic at all, but this team has too much to overcome. Too many key injuries, bad execution, poor calls, and (most importantly) a complete lack of discipline leading to an absurd amount of penalties.

This exactly.

 

I mean I think winning the division MIGHT STILL, be a remote possibility.  ( I think )  Wild card is not mathematically out of the question, but this is not an algebra competition.  Sadly. ( I am looking at you Urshal )

Right now I am hoping for a better than 500 season.

The things is, if any one thinks its Pees, they are a fool.  If any one thinks its the players they are uninformed.  

The problem is the players, the coaches, the coordinators. 

Win as a team. Loose as a team.

[Cillmatic]

This exactly.

I mean I think winning the division MIGHT STILL, be a remote possibility. ( I think ) Wild card is not mathematically out of the question, but this is not an algebra competition. Sadly. ( I am looking at you Urshal )

Right now I am hoping for a better than 500 season.

The things is, if any one thinks its Pees, they are a fool. If any one thinks its the players they are uninformed.

The problem is the players, the coaches, the coordinators.

Win as a team. Loose as a team.

Soon as we gotta say "mathematically" we're automatically undeserving of a playoff berth.

[Raving_Heathen]

AFC is pretty weak. Someone said 8-8 may be good enough to get the #6 spot, but I think this may be another year a 7-9 team may get in. Of course, Ravens have to win 6 more games to get to get to 7-9, and that's probably not going to happen.

[K-Dog]

Soon as we gotta say "mathematically" we're automatically undeserving of a playoff berth.

Well the entire playoff system is based on math so......

Whatever. 

[Winchester]

Why close this thread now?? This is open discussion and as long as nobody verbally insults another member then opinions are welcomed. The defense is not going to be dominant this year. It can improve enough to get us by. However the only way this team goes on a winning streak is by an offense that can win shootouts with anybody!! To do that consistently they need a legit #1 WR that defenses fear. The offense performed OK overall but that dynamic element is missing. As a matter of fact once the Oline is healthy if they get a legit receiving option they could very well lead the NFL in scoring in December and the playoffs if they go on a run to make the playoffs.

[Purple Nurple]

*waves bye bye

Edited October 11, 2015 by Purple Nurple

[wizard1]

This thread is absolutely ludicrous.

[The Mom Gene]

Whatchu talkin' about Willis???

 

We're goin' to the Super Bowl!

[Edgar]

The Ravens will make the playoffs less interesting due to their conspicuous absence

[Cillmatic]

Well the entire playoff system is based on math so......

Whatever.

I said when we have to say it. Fans only say it when they are desperate. Desperate teams shouldn't make the playoffs. Edited October 11, 2015 by Cillmatic