Video of Ravens fan attacked by Steeler fans

[rmcjacket23]

Happens at every single NFL game, including Ravens one's. There's nothing special about this.

[ftballfan]

This all happened a few rows in front of where I was sitting...in fact I'm briefly in the video. Here's what you didn't see in the video....

 

Here's exactly what happened. There were relatively few of us Baltimore fans in this particular section, but at first everyone was relatively friendly with good natured barbs going back and forth. A Pittsburgh fan even bought my wife and I a beer. During the course of the game, and as everyone drank more, as you would expect, the smack got worse and more personal. For some stupid reason, the Raven fan got more and more belligerent in the middle of all these Steeler fans.  His wife / girlfriend tried to calm him down, and of course it only infuriated the Steeler fans so they retaliated and a real war of words between him and a few others erupted.

Finally, and I don't know what was said, the Raven fan (briefly) grabbed the lady behind  him by the throat and pushed her away. At that point, security was called and everyone started shooting video because obviously this was going to get interesting. That's pretty much where this news video starts. To her credit, the woman who was grabbed, tried to hold her husband back from retaliating (though he was older and probably would have had a heart attack anyway), but other fans got him. My wife said security coming so quickly probably saved the guy's life! (Though the same can't be said for his jersey)

 

At any rate, it happens everywhere. We have season tickets and try to go to a few away games each year, and I've seen some severe stupidity of visiting fans. This incident aside, I've seen much worse from opposing fans visiting M&T

[cursona pirate]

Yeah it happens any stadium any team. I wish it didn't happen in any sports. It's just a game in the end. Like come on. 

[gtalk12]

he grabbed a woman by the neck? he deserves to get BEAT for that considering it was him getting all wild smh

[izvoodoo]

Still don't know why the NFL allows for beer to be sold at FOOTBALL GAMES. Makes zero sense.

Second biggest NFL sponsor is anheuser-busch.  Same stuff happens in FIFA.  The world cup forced Brazil to overturn alcohol distribution bans at games, because money.  

[rmcjacket23]

Still don't know why the NFL allows for beer to be sold at FOOTBALL GAMES. Makes zero sense.

Actually doesn't even remotely solve the problem, and might even make it worse.

 

The overwhelming majority of people who attend the game never buy a beer there. They drink heavily from beer they purchased on their own in the tailgate area.

 

If you want to solve the problem, start by asking why NFL teams allow alcohol to be drank for 5 hours before kickoff in a stadium sponsored area?

[The Mom Gene]

It happens, but would never get that far.  They(security) keep a close eye on things and intervene pretty quickly when there are issues.

You don't see it escalate much at all...  We have nieces and nephews from NW Pa that go with us to the Steeler's games.  No one bothers them.  If you see it, you know too how fast the Baltimore Cops are on scene.  A fan would not go shirtless...  and both fans would be gone.  Yes, even the Ravens fan would be kicked out...  and for someone to say that wearing a Ray Lewis jersey is "just asking for it"...  No...  that's not asking for it. 

[Drew P]

I avoid those obnoxious people by sitting at home in my recliner

Edited October 6, 2015 by Moderator 3
I'm sure that's what you meant

[Moderator 3]

Actually doesn't even remotely solve the problem, and might even make it worse.

 

The overwhelming majority of people who attend the game never buy a beer there. They drink heavily from beer they purchased on their own in the tailgate area.

 

If you want to solve the problem, start by asking why NFL teams allow alcohol to be drank for 5 hours before kickoff in a stadium sponsored area?

Ever been to a game? Seen the beer lines? The overwhelming majority don't even tailgate. The lots aren't that big.

[1/28/01]

Ever been to a game? Seen the beer lines? The overwhelming majority don't even tailgate. The lots aren't that big.

Ha, yeah. But this is rmcsweater9872349 so his/her response should be awesome. Everyone knows that all 70k in attendance are also tailgating each and every week.

[757RavensFan]

Actually doesn't even remotely solve the problem, and might even make it worse.

 

The overwhelming majority of people who attend the game never buy a beer there. They drink heavily from beer they purchased on their own in the tailgate area.

 

If you want to solve the problem, start by asking why NFL teams allow alcohol to be drank for 5 hours before kickoff in a stadium sponsored area?

 

So all the bars in downtown Bmore will stop selling alcohol hours before the game? 

Edited October 6, 2015 by 757RavensFan

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Unfortunately, there's idiots in all fan bases.

So true...

[rmcjacket23]

Ever been to a game? Seen the beer lines? The overwhelming majority don't even tailgate. The lots aren't that big.

You're right, they don't. But then again, the quantity of people tailgating isn't as important as the quantity of alcohol consumed by the people that do...

 

http://time.com/money/4025286/nfl-tailgaters-spending/

 

http://www.sports-management-degrees.com/stadium/

 

As it were, roughly a quarter of the people who attend games tailgate. Of the people that do tailgate, the average person spends just under $30 for alcohol. Similarly, the average football game attender will buy 2 beers per game.

 

So, if roughly 70,000 people attend an NFL game on average, and the average person spends about $15 on beer, you're looking at roughly $1.05M in beer sales per game. Big number right?

 

Well, of the quarter of the people who do tailgate and spend nearly double that, you're looking at over $500K in expenditures on beer in a tailgate lot.

 

So you'd think that'd make your argument for you... except there's one major problem. Beer outside the stadium costs significantly less than beer inside the stadium (duh). So the $30 a person spends on beer in a tailgate lot, generally speaking, would give them access to at least 24 beers, as opposed to access to a maximum of 4 in the stadium.

 

So are we seriously naive enough to think that people who tailgate, on average, aren't likely to drink at all and instead prefer the preference of $10 tall boys in stadiums? Doubtful.

 

Been a season ticket holder for quite some time, and I've seen probably thousands of people completely tanked at games. I could count on one hand the number of them who didn't drink before the game, and got bombed entirely at the stadium.

 

Can't prevent them from drinking at bars, can't prevent them from drinking at home. But promoting alcohol consumption at team sponsored tailgating areas has and will continue to be the main problem. 

[allblackraven]

I disagree 100%. It's all about how act, carry yourself and interact with other fans. If your loud and disrespectful and confrontational, things like this happens. 

 

I went to the 2012 SNF game in the Burgh in a Ray Lewis jersey, Ravens toque and sweatpants. I didn't have one bad encounter, just spirited debate. Its not the jersey, but the guy who is wearing it. 

That might be the case in most NFL stadiums. Friendly advice, in case you ever go to Europe to watch soccer or basketball game, stay clear of wearing a jersey when your team plays away game. I'm guessing it isn't different in South America either.

[TDubbs]

That might be the case in most NFL stadiums. Friendly advice, in case you ever go to Europe to watch soccer or basketball game, stay clear of wearing a jersey when your team plays away game. I'm guessing it isn't different in South America either.

 

In Europe and South America, when your talking about soccer, those fan bases take it to a different level. They'll tip your car over and torch it if your wearing another jersey. 

[jimmypowder]

I grew up in Philly as a kid , then moved to Baltimore .

In Philly anything goes . Under no circumstances would I wear a Ravens jersey to an Eagles game if we were playing them.

It's true , the rowdiest , craziest , fight happy fans are from Philly.

[Nightman]

I had to deal in a bar in Bethesda with Guy wearing an anti Baltimore Ravens shirt, that said we are the old Browns.  I said "you are old NFL Pittsburgh Pirates and you mother was formerly some other last name before she got hitched to your father, what its to you?" and he just walked away.  

[omar586]

that's why i stay home and watch games on big screen TV at home safely, comfortably, food and drinks with friends and family. don't have to worry about going to jail after every football game. heck with that.

[FlackAttack]

that's why i stay home and watch games on big screen TV at home safely, comfortably, food and drinks with friends and family. don't have to worry about going to jail after every football game. heck with that.

 

im with you. these days with technology and a great big tv set up and the ability to rewind and slow-mo plays and fast forward commercials. and nice comfortable couch with a refrigerator filled with cold beer. and a nice clean personal bathroom with no lines. live games are increasingly losing their appeal imo.

Edited October 9, 2015 by FlackAttack

[jimmypowder]

im with you. these days with technology and a great big tv set up and the ability to rewind and slow-mo plays and fast forward commercials. and nice comfortable couch with a refrigerator filled with cold beer. and a nice clean personal bathroom with no lines. live games are increasingly losing their appeal imo.

Yeah I used to go to some games but you miss too much - replays , etc .

A lot of times I'd come home and watch highlights and I missed a lot of critical blocks , etc .

[salamander]

I typically go to only 1 game a year just to enjoy the stadium energy and atmosphere. I am just as happy to watch the game warm and cozy, eat food that doesn't cost an arm and a leg or hassle with parking. Big screen TV's have changed the whole TV experience. Now I can fully see each play and player in detail on the big screen and rewind anything I missed.

[Moderator 3]

I typically go to only 1 game a year just to enjoy the stadium energy and atmosphere. I am just as happy to watch the game warm and cozy, eat food that doesn't cost an arm and a leg or hassle with parking. Big screen TV's have changed the whole TV experience. Now I can fully see each play and player in detail on the big screen and rewind anything I missed.

Except the camera follows the ball and you miss 2/3rds of the action. All kinds of stuff goes on with blocking, late hits, open receivers, etc. that the TV never shows.

[salamander]

Except the camera follows the ball and you miss 2/3rds of the action. All kinds of stuff goes on with blocking, late hits, open receivers, etc. that the TV never shows.

You're right. The times I do go to the games I see all kinds of different things not seen on the TV. Oh Well. Maybe I just enjoy being a coach potato most of the year.

[757RavensFan]

Except the camera follows the ball and you miss 2/3rds of the action. All kinds of stuff goes on with blocking, late hits, open receivers, etc. that the TV never shows.

 

That's why I try to go to at least one game a year.  Granted it's expensive and sometimes a hassle to actually attend the game (I live 4 hrs away), the pre-game and game time experience at M&T can't be beat! 

[salamander]

Except the camera follows the ball and you miss 2/3rds of the action. All kinds of stuff goes on with blocking, late hits, open receivers, etc. that the TV never shows.

The best thing for me to do in order to see blocks and other details is to not only rewatch the game on DVR, but many good plays I play in slow motion so I can see and appreciate the contributions of other players I missed critical to the success of a play. ( or screw up). Sometimes I even hit the remote slow motion on the slow motion replay from the televised game. When I go to a live game, I always rewatch the DVR game when I get home which zooms in closer to the action. Completely different experiences. Live or couch slug, both have their advantages and disadvantages.

Edited October 9, 2015 by salamander

[FlackAttack]

Yeah I used to go to some games but you miss too much - replays , etc . A lot of times I'd come home and watch highlights and I missed a lot of critical blocks , etc .

 

nothing better than rewinding and re-watching a successful run play develop at the line of scrimmage in slow-mo.

[Inqui]

You guys don't know how great you have it being able to go to games. I'd give an arm and a leg just to go to one game a season.

[FlackAttack]

You guys don't know how great you have it being able to go to games. I'd give an arm and a leg just to go to one game a season.

 

 do you live out of the country or something? its not that hard

[poescrows]

Slurs fans are always obnoxious, that's one of the reasons I quit going to that dump of a stadium.

I've traveled to games all over the country, always wearing my Ravens gear. I've only ever been harassed at Slurs games. Then again, I don't get drunk and act like an idiot.

I never do that either. I get drunk OR act like an idiot, but never, ever at the same time!

[poescrows]

The best thing for me to do in order to see blocks and other details is to not only rewatch the game on DVR, but many good plays I play in slow motion so I can see and appreciate the contributions of other players I missed critical to the success of a play. ( or screw up). Sometimes I even hit the remote slow motion on the slow motion replay from the televised game. When I go to a live game, I always rewatch the DVR game when I get home which zooms in closer to the action. Completely different experiences. Live or couch slug, both have their advantages and disadvantages.

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